Sheikh Mujib brutality

[idune]

Here is a link to read and download whole book Bhetare Baire, written by Deputy Commander of Bangladesh Liberation force, describing Sheikh Mujib did not want Bangladesh independence.

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[EasyNow]

Its a inherent awami trait to lie and u r no exception. How is mujib popular? He is popular only among AL supporters and AL supporter doesn't equate to being BDs no matter how much your awami intoxicated brain wants to believe that. How about accepting this reality and then growing a thick skin to criticism and not go berserk on historical facts and truth? But then again u guys facist and bakshali by nature destined to go the way of the dinosaurs.
And which opposition accepts mujib as the Father of the nation? U seem to be a ignorant british awami leaguer who doesn't know much abt his/her country of origin.

You wrote all that to repeat the same pointless rant. If you're going to get involved please make a point, your personal opinion on AL supporters is irrelevant.

PDF is not a support group for Razakars Anonymous. You don't get to talk rubbish and pat each other on the back, without having to deal with a small thing called reality.

You say SM is popular amongst AL supporters. So that's just every person in that 30% of the electorate then? You also forgot the independents and the patriots who broadly appreciate his efforts for independence. Every child alive during 1971 will attest that SM was crucial to our liberation. What came after cannot take away that achievement.

So don't bother with your pointless 40 year old lies. Average BDs are moving forward in the world and buddy, the only one you are fooling is yourself.

Ps. I am not an AL supporter, in time you may work that out, in the meantime please stick to facts.

 

[Cyberian]

Check your own source again.


Here,Math 101 for you

GDP 1972:

Pak : 12.19

Ban : 6.20

Pak GDP / Ban GDP = (12.19/6.20)= 1.966


GDP 2012

Pak : 342.06

Ban : 260.09

Pak GDP/ Ban GDP = ( 342.06/260.09) = 1.3152



So Bangladesh has closed gap by (1.966 - 1.3152) X 100 / 1.966 = 33.1%.


Congratulation!! @SUPARCO , you have proved yourself to be a logic fail. No wonder you could not even make a SLV.

Pakistan's GDP was $12.19 billion in 1972? Then Pakistan's GDP reached $342.06 billion in 2012? Where did you get that information from?

I think its time for you to put your glasses on.

Source of the above data can be found here: List of countries by past and future GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[eastwatch]

It is 1970.

I took values from first and last coloumn of your own table.

Do not expect a good answer from him. Some people are born with a weak brain for math.

 

[Luffy 500]

You wrote all that to repeat the same pointless rant. If you're going to get involved please make a point, your personal opinion on AL supporters is irrelevant.

The one who is ranting is u. I just stated that mujib is not a nationally acclaimed leader but rather a polarizing figure. This is a fact of present day BD and not a rant.

PDF is not a support group for Razakars Anonymous. You don't get to talk rubbish and pat each other on the back, without having to deal with a small thing called reality.

PDF is an open forum where slave mentality anti-BD dalals along with BDs with sorts of views can express their opinion. It would be more prudent if awami dalals learn to tolerate opposing views. People who fanatically defends a personality cult are the ones who need a dose of reality.

Btw oldman, who r the razakars in PDF? U mean to say u know who someone who actually participated on 71 war on the side of the PAK military junta?Tell us who is it?

You say SM is popular amongst AL supporters. So that's just every person in that 30% of the electorate then? You also forgot the independents and the patriots who broadly appreciate his efforts for independence. Every child alive during 1971 will attest that SM was crucial to our liberation.

How do u know even 30% supports AL? Your netri relieved people of the burden of voting?

And patriotism means appreciating mujib? And every child born after 71 must appreciate mujib?
What if someone doesn't want to attest to such awami views based on historical evidences? He ain't a patriot?

What came after cannot take away that achievement.

Yeah we know that. The world beings and ends in awami version of 71 for AL fanatics.

So don't bother with your pointless 40 year old lies. Average BDs are moving forward in the world and buddy, the only one you are fooling is yourself.

So bakshal didn't happen? The famine of 74 didn't happen? Rakkhi bahini didn't commit heinous atrocities?

Yeah people moves on , but fanatics live in denial and can't move on from their lies and concoction until they self-destruct to oblivion.

Ps. I am not an AL supporter, in time you may work that out, in the meantime please stick to facts.

Yeah u are not a AL supporter , bakshal is a myth, patriotism means appreciating mujib and every child born after 71 attest to mujib's "achievement" in 71.

 

[EasyNow]

PDF is an open forum where slave mentality anti-BD dalals along with BDs with sorts of views can express their opinion. It would be more prudent if awami dalals learn to tolerate opposing views. People who fanatically defends a personality cult are the ones who need a dose of reality.

Yes, yes i'm the one starting the numerous anti-BD, anti-independence threads right?. The one obsessed with SM's personality is you - because you're ranting about the man 40 years after he's gone. If you have a problem with the current administration, talk about that and come with evidence. There is not one honest government in all of South Asia - why would i presume to defend the current BD administration? I've said this before - you need to move on with your life.

Btw oldman, who r the razakars in PDF? U mean to say u know who someone who actually participated on 71 war on the side of the PAK military junta?Tell us who is it?

I'm not sure if i count as an old man, but it signifies maturity - so i'm flattered

There is no time limit on razakarism. Some razakars collaborated with arms, some with manpower and some with money - does asking for independence to be undone, for BD to be handed back to Pakistan count as enough 'siding with the Pak junta' to you? And you think i'm anti-BD?

How do u know even 30% supports AL? Your netri relieved people of the burden of voting?

And patriotism means appreciating mujib? And every child born after 71 must appreciate mujib?
What if someone doesn't want to attest to such awami views based on historical evidences? He ain't a patriot?

Lol, so now you will even deny that AL has any supporters? Even in the 1991 election which AL lost, they got 31% of votes. Since then the rate has been 37% plus in every election. Even in the very worst elections AL had 26% of votes. All lies right? At least be reasonable in your bias - you will discount a third of your fellow citizens so swiftly?

And yes, every revolutionary leader has his detractors. Ataturk, Gandhi, Jinnah, Mujib - all have haters but all are overwhelmingly respected in their countries. Those detractors are often known as traitors and malcontents - sound familiar?

So bakshal didn't happen? The famine of 74 didn't happen? Rakkhi bahini didn't commit heinous atrocities?

Yeah people moves on , but fanatics live in denial and can't move on from their lies and concoction until they self-destruct to oblivion.

Again you are fixated on Mujib's post independence legacy - change the record man.

 

[Luffy 500]

Yes, yes i'm the one starting the numerous anti-BD, anti-independence threads right?. The one obsessed with SM's personality is you - because you're ranting about the man 40 years after he's gone. If you have a problem with the current administration, talk about that and come with evidence.

U awamis have a black and white perspective on issues like independence/pro/anti- state etc etc. Questioning and cricital analysis of history is not anti-independence. Indo-awami version of 71 is NOT BD's history. Suffice to say Indo-awami version is only side of the story and a heavily fabricated one at that.
Why be so allergic when some one talks abt atrocities of past regimes? Suffice to say once your foundation is based on lies, u would naturally be afraid of truth. Truth comes out eventually and fact based unbiased historical narrative of 71 is only in BD's interest.

BD has a normal society with political diversity. Better come to terms with this reality.

There is not one honest government in all of South Asia - why would i presume to defend the current BD administration? I've said this before - you need to move on with your life.

Who is talking abt honesty here? BD is a dictatorship where an unelected PM is keeping hold on power illegaly. Why can't i criticize such a administration? What is your problem if people do that?


People moves on with their lives, AL fanatics seem to be stuck in 71.

I'm not sure if i count as an old man, but it signifies maturity - so i'm flattered

There is no time limit on razakarism. Some razakars collaborated with arms, some with manpower and some with money - does asking for independence to be undone, for BD to be handed back to Pakistan count as enough 'siding with the Pak junta' to you? And you think i'm anti-BD?

Why don't u answer my question old-man? Who in PDF is a razakar?

That's your definitions of razakarism, a personal partisan opinion, and a one filled with bigotry and hatred.

Who is asking for independence to be undone? Why should BDs subscribe to your awami narrative of issues such independence/pro and anti-state?

[/quote]Lol, so now you will even deny that AL has any supporters? Even in the 1991 election which AL lost, they got 31% of votes. Since then the rate has been 37% plus in every election. Even in the very worst elections AL had 26% of votes. All lies right? At least be reasonable in your bias - you will discount a third of your fellow citizens so swiftly?[/quote]

Did i deny AL's support? Just said that u can't grasp AL support since people have been stripped of their voting right. Let elections take place and see AL's support? Your netri seems to be afraid of assessing her support level .

Even if its your hypothetical 37%, it is only part of the population and doesn't have the right to impose its ideology on others. DO u agree?

And yes, every revolutionary leader has his detractors. Ataturk, Gandhi, Jinnah, Mujib - all have haters but all are overwhelmingly respected in their countries. Those detractors are often known as traitors and malcontents - sound familiar?

Mujib isn't a nationally acclaimed like those u mentioned. DO BNP /JI and other islamic parties share the same awami views on mujib? There goes 40% of the pop. What abt the rest? All traitors? Why should they share awami chauvinistic narrative on Mujib and 71?

All your fervent rants notwithstanding U awamis have to realize that u can't force masses to love someone.

Again you are fixated on Mujib's post independence legacy - change the record man.

What's your problem if people talks about mujib's post-independence legacy? Why be allergic to it? Grow a thick skin to such criticism rather than calling people traitors and coming up with new definitions of patriotism.

 

[Al-zakir]

Here is a link to read and download whole book Bhetare Baire, written by Deputy Commander of Bangladesh Liberation force, describing Sheikh Mujib did not want Bangladesh independence.

Google Drive Viewer

What's the motive behind this book? I do not trust this Awami.

 

[EasyNow]

U awamis have a black and white perspective on issues like independence/pro/anti- state etc etc. Questioning and cricital analysis of history is not anti-independence. Indo-awami version of 71 is NOT BD's history. Suffice to say Indo-awami version is only side of the story and a heavily fabricated one at that.
Why be so allergic when some one talks abt atrocities of past regimes? Suffice to say once your foundation is based on lies, u would naturally be afraid of truth. Truth comes out eventually and fact based unbiased historical narrative of 71 is only in BD's interest

Your hateful views on A-Leaguers are your own problem - I couldn't care less about your prejudices. But it does devalue the rest of your post.

My problem is that you recall 'atrocities' of SM but your memory seems to stop at 1971. The 'heavily fabricated' history, 40 years of detailed evidence, interviews, intelligence reports, news articles, photographs, videos and eye-witness testimony - all measure up to nothing in front of your foolish intellect. You can convince yourself that black is white, but others aren't as stupid.

I have no problem looking history in the face - and it does not reflect well on ANY party. So don't ply your party politics here in the guise of historical accuracy.

Who is talking abt honesty here? BD is a dictatorship where an unelected PM is keeping hold on power illegaly. Why can't i criticize such a administration? What is your problem if people do that?

Try reading the post properly before ranting. When did i say you shouldn't criticise the current administration? I told you to do exactly that - ask questions of your government, criticise it with evidence, but why are you bringing SM and 40 year of gossip into it? Why are you insulting the liberation movement?

People moves on with their lives, AL fanatics seem to be stuck in 71.

Lol, this takes the biscuit. Did i start a 1971 thread? Answer this and you will know who is stuck in a timewarp.

Why do you need to denigrate our founders - and i include Maulana Bashani and Ziaur Rahman among them - to air your grievances of today? I wish some of you would have more dignity, take more pride in what we have and what we have been through rather than dragging everything through the gutter to prove your point.

Why don't u answer my question old-man? Who in PDF is a razakar?

That's your definitions of razakarism, a personal partisan opinion, and a one filled with bigotry and hatred.

Who is asking for independence to be undone? Why should BDs subscribe to your awami narrative of issues such independence/pro and anti-state?

If you'd been following this thread, you would have the answer to your question. The guilty party has repeatedly made the same statement, but you are too blinded by AL-hate to see the truth in front of your face.

And its not my personal opinion when someone has said those things openly - is asking for your country to be uncreated not treasonous in your view?

Even if its your hypothetical 37%, it is only part of the population and doesn't have the right to impose its ideology on others. DO u agree?

Bro, can you not read my posts properly, it would save us both time. You said SM is not respected in BD and i told you at least 30% of the population who are AL have maximum respect for him - you just helped me prove that its even more at 37%! And that's just for starters.

What's your problem if people talks about mujib's post-independence legacy? Why be allergic to it? Grow a thick skin to such criticism rather than calling people traitors and coming up with new definitions of patriotism.

If you go back over the thread you will see that i'm not making it personal while you have been using words like dalal, slave, fanatic repeatedly. Please follow your own advice.

I don't have a problem with people criticising any party - but questioning our liberation, asking for us to rejoin Pak is an insult to all the people who died for BD. Undermining our independence movement for tit-for-tat politics is disgusting and I will always remain allergic to it.

 

[kalu_miah]

There is every reason for most Bangladeshi people to hate this party Awami League, unless they personally benefited in some way from this gang of thugs. Jumping up and down and making useless troll posts does not change the fact on the ground in Bangladesh. Only people with no clue about ground realities in Bangladesh can make such absurd claims.

 

[khair_ctg]

Every child alive during 1971 will attest that SM was crucial to our liberation.

first, there was no liberation. the only way one can say Indian annexation is liberation is for him to be an Indian. most of those very children are the reason that 1) Sheikh Mujib became very disliked after 1971 and 2) some of those commie children who broke United Pakistan also killed Sheikh Mujib later on

 

[khair_ctg]

My problem is that you recall 'atrocities' of SM but your memory seems to stop at 1971. The 'heavily fabricated' history, 40 years of detailed evidence, interviews, intelligence reports, news articles, photographs, videos and eye-witness testimony - all measure up to nothing in front of your foolish intellect. You can convince yourself that black is white, but others aren't as stupid.

I have no problem looking history in the face - and it does not reflect well on ANY party. So don't ply your party politics here in the guise of historical accuracy.

i will not support Luffy 500 if he denies detailed evidence. similarly i think it is madness to deny the violence that was instigated and backed up by India and Soviet Union. seems you are accusing someone of the same things that you are committing. for example when one says "3 million were killed" and "India is a saviour", in the process of denying evidence proving otherwise and distorting the identity of BD landmass and society, he is doing nothing but partisan politics

 

[khair_ctg]

@PersonasNonGrata you constantly bring rejoining Pakistan. during United Pakistan, East Pakistan and West Pakistan were very much separate. and afterwards, the issue is about close relations with Pakistan because of the shared past and potential for mutual benefit in future. and very importantly, the issue is about the sovereignty of the landmass that used to be East Pakistan before Indian annexation. no one is questioning any liberation (one reason is there was no liberation). the people you dislike are questioning the lack of liberation because of India