Sheikh Mujib brutality

[Cyberian]

In 1970, BD (then east Pakistan) vs. west Pakistan was 33.7% vs 64.3% of the total Pakistani GDP. In 2014, it has risen to 40% vs 60% of the combined GDP. I think, our rising economy is great considering how much of BD's export earned capitals were systematically stolen by the west for a long 23 years, and we were devoid of capital for investment after 1971.

Our share during the last forty years could have gone down to less than 20% vs 80%, had we remained with west Pakistan. I propose we better do not compare about our two economies, because it will only bring about our sad memories how we were exploited by west which was poorer in 1947 and richer in 1971.

You go up and be a new Japan, we do not care. But, we are happy to do our own business without an interference from you. Only future will tell which of the two countries will develop faster.

There was no Bangladesh in 1970, only Indian trained Mukti Bahini terrorist destroying East Pakistan followed by an Indian invasion in 1971.

So my Bangladeshi brother, I'll ask you for the second time, what was the Bangladeshi/Pakistani GDP in 1972-1975 and what was it in 2013? Was the gap bigger in 1972 or in 2013.

Source of the above data can be found here: List of countries by past and future GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's not a trick question so con't be scared or shy to speak the truth my brother.

 

[eastwatch]

There was no Bangladesh in 1970, only Indian trained Mukti Bahini terrorist destroying East Pakistan followed by an Indian invasion in 1971.

So my Bangladeshi brother, I'll ask you for the second time, what was the Bangladeshi/Pakistani GDP in 1972-1975 and what was it in 2013? Was the gap bigger in 1972 or in 2013.

Source of the above data can be found here: List of countries by past and future GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's not a trick question so con't be scared or shy to speak the truth my brother.

Why do not you just do the math to get answer to your idiotic question and enlighten us with the results and effects.

 

[Cyberian]

Why do not you just do the math to get answer to your idiotic question and enlighten us with the results and effects.

Come now brother, you can't always keep your head buried in the sand. Forty-three years is enough time for Bangladesh to surpass Pakistan.

Source of the above data can be found here: List of countries by past and future GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[khair_ctg]

Have I said his court language was Bengali. What do you mean by "illiterate"?
Muslims rulers were no better than British. Destroyed Bengle at best. Thousand years of misery and Chaos.
These impotents are not capable of securing independence. The core has the main problem.
Now dont bring this siraj ud daula at every issue. I was once interested in him but not any more as I learn more of him.
Just couldnt get time to change the profile pic. To me Siraj ud daula is worse than Mir jafar.

sorry to learn of your breakup. hope you find a special someone again. let's bring back the glory days of Veda and Rama-Krishna and kick out the Persian-Arabic influenced kichudi.

so he finally 'came out' @Al-zakir @kalu_miah @Saiful Islam @Md Akmal

 

[EasyNow]

I don't need to listen to other people, I've said it before, I'm basing my opinion on facts, not other people; Rather, my opinion is based on various news sources such as the BBC and Reuters, who have a much better understand on the situation than you or me.

Just like you say I shouldn't believe other people's opinions, I have no reason to trust yours either.

What news sources are you talking about? Please show me any independent news source that has said the BD government is selling out its sovereignty.

Whether you know it or not, you are spewing the same war-mongering narrative as the Jamaati's - and like them, you have no evidence either.

 

[That Guy]

What news sources are you talking about? Please show me any independent news source that has said the BD government is selling out its sovereignty.

Whether you know it or not, you are spewing the same war-mongering narrative as the Jamaati's - and like them, you have no evidence either.

Are you listening to yourself right now? did you even read my post? The opinion that BD is practically a client state is my own, but it is based upon events reported by neutral sources. The last elections were proof of just how much penetration India has in BD's government. There is no denying that BD-Indian relations have moved passed "friendly".

I don't give a shit what the Jamaatis say. War mongering? What war mongering? I don't give a shit what happens to BD, it's your problem, not mine. You and I both know the truth, but the only difference is that while you deny it, I'm acknowledge it and am indifferent to it, because it does not affect me.

 

[EasyNow]

Are you listening to yourself right now? did you even read my post? The opinion that BD is practically a client state is my own, but it is based upon events reported by neutral sources. The last elections were proof of just how much penetration India has in BD's government. There is no denying that BD-Indian relations have moved passed "friendly".

I don't give a shit what the Jamaatis say. War mongering? What war mongering? I don't give a shit what happens to BD, it's your problem, not mine. You and I both know the truth, but the only difference is that while you deny it, I'm acknowledge it and am indifferent to it, because it does not affect me.

My friend you are the one making sweeping statements based on supposed news reports (not a single one I'm sure you will be able to furnish here). Is it me in denial of the truth or you with your internet sources?

You are an intelligent poster who I respect, but I'm afraid this subject is clearly on your periphery and you have fallen for the hype - unlike the millions of Bds who are getting on with life in peace.

 

[kalu_miah]

Are you listening to yourself right now? did you even read my post? The opinion that BD is practically a client state is my own, but it is based upon events reported by neutral sources. The last elections were proof of just how much penetration India has in BD's government. There is no denying that BD-Indian relations have moved passed "friendly".

I don't give a shit what the Jamaatis say. War mongering? What war mongering? I don't give a shit what happens to BD, it's your problem, not mine. You and I both know the truth, but the only difference is that while you deny it, I'm acknowledge it and am indifferent to it, because it does not affect me.

Indeed, the bold part above is sufficient proof of aggression by India and their agents in Bangladesh land mass from 1947 till today. Yet they will insist on proving night as day, essentially following "Big Lie" theory:
Big lie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[That Guy]

My friend you are the one making sweeping statements based on supposed news reports (not a single one I'm sure you will be able to furnish here). Is it me in denial of the truth or you with your internet sources?

You are an intelligent poster who I respect, but I'm afraid this subject is clearly on your periphery and you have fallen for the hype - unlike the millions of Bds who are getting on with life in peace.

I stand by my statements. simply dismissing my argument is fine, I'm here to convince you or anyone else. You're free to believe what you want, as is your right.

The level of interference in BD's last elections is something even you cannot deny, but again, you're free to believe in anything you want.

 

[manojb]

One need only to look at recent events, and how much influence India has in BD to know the truth, I care little for what people think, all I care about are facts.

In your words Pak is sold out to China, USA and above all Saud's?

 

[manojb]

There was no Bangladesh in 1970, only Indian trained Mukti Bahini terrorist destroying East Pakistan followed by an Indian invasion in 1971.

So my Bangladeshi brother, I'll ask you for the second time, what was the Bangladeshi/Pakistani GDP in 1972-1975 and what was it in 2013? Was the gap bigger in 1972 or in 2013.

Source of the above data can be found here: List of countries by past and future GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's not a trick question so con't be scared or shy to speak the truth my brother.

Here's picture for you ( hopefully it shuts your down):

Bangladesh and development: The path through the fields | The Economist
"
Bangladesh has dysfunctional politics and a stunted private sector. Yet it has been surprisingly good at improving the lives of its poor"

"Bangladesh is still poor and crowded. With the lowest labour costs in the world (textile workers make about $35 a month) it should be growing faster than China, not more slowly than India. It is badly governed, stifled by red tape and faces severe environmental problems. But in terms of the success of its grass-roots development, it has lessons for the world."

 

[kalu_miah]

Here's picture for you ( hopefully it shuts your down):

Bangladesh and development: The path through the fields | The Economist
"
Bangladesh has dysfunctional politics and a stunted private sector. Yet it has been surprisingly good at improving the lives of its poor"

"Bangladesh is still poor and crowded. With the lowest labour costs in the world (textile workers make about $35 a month) it should be growing faster than China, not more slowly than India. It is badly governed, stifled by red tape and faces severe environmental problems. But in terms of the success of its grass-roots development, it has lessons for the world."

The economist paper in no way disproves aggression of India and Indian agents in Bangladesh landmass, what it shows is that despite India and their agents aggression, Bangladesh achieved substantial improvement, meaning Bangladesh would have achieved much more, perhaps at least 10% growth like China, if there was no Indian interference in Bangladesh internal affairs.

 

[manojb]

The economist paper in no way disproves aggression of India and Indian agents in Bangladesh landmass, what it shows is that despite India and their agents aggression, Bangladesh achieved substantial improvement, meaning Bangladesh would have achieved much more, perhaps at least 10% growth like China, if there was no Indian interference in Bangladesh internal affairs.

BTW I was responding to SUPARCO for his stats.. About India influence in BD, it reached its height when Indian RAW shut down PDF access to our own @MBI Munshi .

 

[Cyberian]

Here's picture for you ( hopefully it shuts your down):

Bangladesh and development: The path through the fields | The Economist
"
Bangladesh has dysfunctional politics and a stunted private sector. Yet it has been surprisingly good at improving the lives of its poor"

"Bangladesh is still poor and crowded. With the lowest labour costs in the world (textile workers make about $35 a month) it should be growing faster than China, not more slowly than India. It is badly governed, stifled by red tape and faces severe environmental problems. But in terms of the success of its grass-roots development, it has lessons for the world."

That's PPP figures not GDP. Try again.

Source of the above data can be found here: List of countries by past and future GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, why is Bangladesh "struggling" so badly economically and politically as your article suggests?

Bangladesh should've been better off than Pakistan in the 1970s when Pakistsn was under Western sanctions but it lagged behind Pakistan. Bangladesh was given a second chance in the 1980s when Pakistan was fighting the Soviet war machine but Bangladesh still lagged behind. Bangladesh was given a third chance in the 1990s when Pakistan was under severe and crippling Western sanctions but Bangladesh continued to lag behind. Bangladesh was yet again give a fourth chance in the 2000s decade, when at its height Pakistan had 54 suicide bombings in 2007 alone, but Bangladesh still could not catch up.

What exactly is Bangladesh's problem?

More than forty-three years after our beloved Bangladeshi brothers and sisters severed ties us, really hurt us, Bangladesh still continues to lag behind. Bangladesh's economy cannot even catch up, never mind match the Pakistani economy while surpassing it is out of the question.

I would like to add, If Bangladesh was unable to surpass Pakistan in the past forty-three years, it's not going to do so in the next forty-three years.

 

[That Guy]

In your words Pak is sold out to China, USA and above all Saud's?

Pretty much.

Any Pakistan that is honest with you, will tell you that Pakistan's governments have basically been working for foreign interests for a long time. Though, that is thankfully changing as the military is no longer in charge, and the civilian administration is quickly learning that public support is far more important than foreign support.