Sheikh Mujib brutality

[Contrarian]

How exactly? What was Bangladeshi/Pakistani GDP in 1972 and what was it in 2013?

Source of the above data can be found here: List of countries by past and future GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As per your own source:
1. BD in 1970 - 6.2
Pakistan in 1970 : 12.2

Ratio: 1.96 ie roughly 2 times.

2. BD in 2013 - 141.28
Pakistan in 2013 - 238.74

Ratio : 1.6

3. BD in 2019 - 260
Pakistan in 2019 - 342
Ratio: 1.3

Ergo, BD is consistently reducing its economic gap with Pakistan despite having much lesser land and more population!

 

[Cyberian]

As per your own source:
1. BD in 1970 - 6.2
Pakistan in 1970 : 12.2

Ratio: 1.96 ie roughly 2 times.

2. BD in 2013 - 141.28
Pakistan in 2013 - 238.74

Ratio : 1.6

3. BD in 2019 - 260
Pakistan in 2019 - 342
Ratio: 1.3

Ergo, BD is consistently reducing its economic gap with Pakistan despite having much lesser land and more population!

You may not be aware of this but there was no "Bangladesh" in 1970.

I'll ask you for the second time, what was the Bangladeshi/Pakistani GDP in 1972 and what was it in 2013?

Source of the above data can be found here: List of countries by past and future GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[EasyNow]

So tell us, why such a great leader killed by it's own people when he liberated your sorry arses from evil muzlim Pakistan.

That is history, great nations often start with bloody, chaotic beginnings. Please don't colour everything as a Muslim issue, liberation was a territorial matter and a cultural/linguistic one.

Today, when we have moved on from even Pak actions of the time, why do these people hark back to so called crimes from decades ago? If the SM really was that bad why do so much of the population still revere him? Even the most ardent opposition accepts that Sheikh Mujib is father of the nation and AL commands at least 30% of votes all the time. No point trying to fan flames when there is no fire.

You're own government is selling out it's nation's sovereignty, it's not random internet comments you should be worried about. Besides, even if BD offered, Pakistan wouldn't take it. BD was a geographical problem since the birth of Pakistan, and should have been independent from the beginning.

I have said many times before that WP-EP was an alliance born to fail - so if you can see that why can't the BD fanboys who want to unbirth the resulting country?

And FYI the tale of losing sovereignty to India is the lullaby told by Jamaati mullahs to their children. Its the biggest joke that only non-BD's put stock in. You really think our economy is going so well, we are monopolising the garment sector, we have one of the highest Forex reserves in the region and it is happening with India's blessing? We are what we are and we are trying to make it work, don't fall the conspiracy BS.

Bal people are mushrik in mind and soul. They are trying to reunite bd with their mushrik brethren.

Hah! as expected a Takfiri, Jamaati snake raises its head. Your brethren have gathered in Iraq - didn't you get the invite? Or is it easier to sit in secular Great Satan and talk BS.

The day people like you have the guts to be true to their word and live in a Muslim country, is the day your words will have any merit. Feel free not to quote me as i know that your mind is closed to any new ideas.

 

[Jf Thunder]

Last time I checked, the delusional General Yahya Khan was in power in 1971.

yes, him too

 

[eastwatch]

So tell us, why such a great leader killed by it's own people when he liberated your sorry arses from evil muzlim Pakistan.

Liaqat Ali Khan, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and Zia-ul-Haq all were killed. So, what is your point?

 

[Cyberian]

Liaqat Ali Khan, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and Zia-ul-Haq all were killed. So, what is your point?

You forgot mention to Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto. However, none of them held the title of Qaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah.

But Mujib-ur-Rahman was Bangladesh's Qaid-e-Azam wasn't he, who was also killed by his own Bangladeshi Army (former Mukti Bahini terrorists)?

 

[Contrarian]

You may not be aware of this but there was no "Bangladesh" in 1970.

I'll ask you for the second time, what was the Bangladeshi/Pakistani GDP in 1972 and what was it in 2013?

Source of the above data can be found here: List of countries by past and future GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why then is the year 1970 and 71 listed alongside Bangladesh sir?
It is because it is the GDP of the region of what is now Bangladesh and was then East Pakistan.

 

[EasyNow]

Source of the above data can be found here: List of countries by past and future GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pakistan lost more than half of it's population after 1971, which meant losing more than half of it's workforce, lost 1/6 of it's territory, faced war and annexation from Afghanistan, nuclear threat from India, crippling sanctions from the United States, invasion from the Soviet Union, occupation of territory by India, more sanctions from the United States and finally facing NATO in Afghanistan.

Just look at the above table and look at the GDP for 1971 and 1972 for both countries. In the last 43 years, Bangladesh's GDP has only contracted for two years (1981 and 1982) while Pakistan's GDP has contracted at least six times (1997, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2002 and 2009).

What is Bangladesh's excuse for lagging behind Pakistan for the past 43-years, yes, forty-three-years?

My friend you don't seem to get it. BD's only concern is BD, we are doing better than we did before and that's what matters. We have a relatively peaceful, easy going country and that's more important than anything. I'd advise you guys to prioritize the same.

The stats above do not reflect many, many other factors but regardless BD is not complaining.

 

[Cyberian]

Why then is the year 1970 and 71 listed alongside Bangladesh sir?
It is because it is the GDP of the region of what is now Bangladesh and was then East Pakistan.

It is because when I was researching the data, the United Nations had reported it and I just copied the data.

I don't think the United Nations reported India's Mukti Bahini in 1970 followed by an Indian military invasion of East Pakistan in 1971. Maybe what we need is data for 1947-1971 for that discussion which I've not bothered to research.

My friend you don't seem to get it. BD's only concern is BD, we are doing better than we did before and that's what matters. We have a relatively peaceful, easy going country and that's more important than anything. I'd advise you guys to prioritize the same.

The stats above do not reflect many, many other factors but regardless BD is not complaining.

They say poor people get poor too.

 

[EasyNow]

the problem with most awamis is that they dont really realise that mujib was never in the favour of breaking pak. he wanted to be the pm of the whole of pak . it only after 25 march that this isssue started.


your dear leader was about as razakar as bhutto uncle only difference is that mujib ended up on the wining side

I'm not an A Leaguer. What you have said is true but you are colouring it with your prejudice. Yes SM tried in many instances not to break up Pak, it was Pak intransigence that led to the inevitable conflict.

So will you now accept that in that whole mess, SM was one of the few trying to be fair? Razakar are the BD collaborators who turned on their people even in the face of injustice. Bhutto and no other Pakistani can be termed razakar because they were diligently serving their people's interest.

They say poor people get poor too.

Don't confuse a desire for peaceful growth with a lack of ambition. There is more money floating around in BD than you can imagine, hundreds and hundreds of Pakistani's have invested millions here too.

 

[Green Arrow]

what about before 1972? like Sheikh Mujib beat parliament speaker Shahed Ali to death with a chair during East Pakistan time

What happened between time span of 1971-1975 that founder of the nation killed by his own army?

 

[Cyberian]

Don't confuse a desire for peaceful growth with a lack of ambition. There is more money floating around in BD than you can imagine, hundreds and hundreds of Pakistani's have invested millions here too.

The actual growth is before you my friend. I do not blame you for burying your head in the sand.

Source of the above data can be found here: List of countries by past and future GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Green Arrow]

Liaqat Ali Khan, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and Zia-ul-Haq all were killed. So, what is your point?

Sir, they were not the father of the nation

 

[EasyNow]

The actual growth is before you my friend. I do not blame you for burying your head in the sand.

Source of the above data can be found here: List of countries by past and future GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Uff! you are really pushing me to break it to you, so here goes:

1. Pakistan started off with more wealth and resources than BD because the total wealth of united Pak was held in West Pak. Even so...

2. our GDP growth rate stands at 6.1% compared to Pak's 3.3%.

3. Bangladesh foreign debt $36bn vs Pakistan's $65bn

4. BD Forex reserves $22bn vs Pak $13.5bn

5. there are many other indicators, GDP per person growth, electricity production, export growth, etc, etc.

Even from your own graph, if you compare the annual growth for each country you will find that year on year, BD had more growth than Pak. eg. from 72-73 growth was 9% for bd vs 7% for Pak, in 73-74 bd grew 8.3% vs Pak 7.6%...


So the truth is; how long will you keep your head buried in the sand? The day BD surpasses your GDP is that when you will wake up? Things are not all rosy for any of us, but we don't go telling others what's best for them.


(Pakistan External Debt | 2002-2014 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast

(TABLE-Pakistan forex reserves fall to $13.581 bln| Reuters

Sir, they were not the father of the nation

Bhutto, Ayub and Zia were all contemporaries of Mujib - none of them got away cleanly from that event in history.

 

[Cyberian]

... Even from your own graph, if you compare the annual growth for each country you will find that year on year, BD had more growth than Pak. eg. from 72-73 growth was 9% for bd vs 7% for Pak, in 73-74 bd grew 8.3% vs Pak 7.6%...

My brother, Bangladesh has been growing faster than Pakistan since 1972 as you've clearly stated, that's 43-years so far and counting, yet Bangladesh's GDP still lags behind Pakistan.

Which part of the growth you don't understand? You mention Bangladesh's "other" indicators which will somehow surpass Pakistan's GDP in Bangladeshi dreams but what about Pakistan's "other" indicators?

The Secret Strength of Pakistan's Economy - Businessweek

Have you ever wondered how the Islamic Republic of Pakistan manages to employee 1,451,000 personel for it's Armed Forces with an $11 billion budget, hold huge stocks of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles and fight wars with super powers despite it's GDP growth rate is lower than Bangladesh?