Shall Turkey support Uyghers indepedant from China?

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@Hakan

I think, this thread needs to be cleaned a bit, so we can continue to discuss.

 

[帅的一匹]

When Turkey speak against PRC's rule in Xingjiang, do you think your arm is stretched too loong?

@Hakan

I think, this thread needs to be cleaned a bit, so we can continue to discuss.

I don't think Italy will speak against England when their kin was bullied in Folkland by UK? I don't think China is bullying Uyghers, seeing is believing. Non of my Uygher friends tell me that they wanna get indepandant, PRC will not let go of Xingjiang in the future.

This thread is abouth China and Turkey and Uyghers, no off -topic BS.

 

[dray]

@wanglaokan asking people to leave thread or keep quiet goes against the essence of an open international forum.

On topic: Total independence is the only way Uighurs can protect their ethnic and religious identity.

 

[帅的一匹]

We will not stir up in Turkic-Kurds conflict cause we only care our domestic things.

@wanglaokan asking people to leave thread or keep quiet goes against the essence of an open international forum.

On topic: Total independence is the only way Uighurs can protect their ethnic and religious identity.

Um, why?

@wanglaokan asking people to leave thread or keep quiet goes against the essence of an open international forum.

On topic: Total independence is the only way Uighurs can protect their ethnic and religious identity.

AP has different culture, same applied to it or double standard? The Uyghers culture is well protected and respected in China, we loves it. If CCP bully Uygher innocents, even i won't tolerate it at all. We are all equal. Chinese culture don't exclude Islamic culture, that's why we could be good friend with PAK.

Turkey can't only give ears to those few Uyghers seperatists escaping from CHina to Tuekey. You shall listen to the voice of all the people living in Xingjiang. Sometimes they utilize the sympathy you have for them to cover the facts. Seeing is believing.

Do you think it's very rude to ask Uyhgers to get independant from PRC? Or you just think CHina is some pushover that you could control? We will not revenge Turkey by supporting Kurds because we know it just destroy the reationships.

While you type randomly on your keyboard, do you think you get a clear pictures what acutaly happens out there?

 

[dray]

We will not stir up in Turkic-Kurds conflict cause we only care our domestic things.


Um, why?


AP has different culture, same applied to it or double standard? The Uyghers culture is well protected and respected in China, we loves it. If CCP bully Uygher innocents, even i won't tolerate it at all. We are all equal. Chinese culture don't exclude Islamic culture, that's why we could be good friend with PAK.

Since you are desperate to drag in AP, let me tell you the differences:

1. No Indian from other states can settle in AP, but Uighurs have become minorities in their own land because of state sponsored Han Chinese migration in Xinjiang as a strategic move.

2. AP people are free to practice their religion, Uighurs are not, China even bans Ramadan fasting.

3. AP people are not fighting for independence, Uighurs are.

So where is the comparison?

 

[帅的一匹]

As i sane Chinese, i don't personaly hold grudge against Turkey. Hope Turkey can respect our soverign integrity and security.

Since you are desperate to drag in AP, let me tell you the differences:

1. No Indian from other states can settle in AP, but Uighurs have become minorities in their own land because of state sponsored Han Chinese migration in Xinjiang as a strategic move.

2. AP people are free to practice their religion, Uighurs are not, China even bans Ramadan fasting.

3. AP people are not fighting for independence, Uighurs are.

So where is the comparison?

As IA is stationing in AP, who the hell dare to say independant? Uyghers are free to pratice their religions in Xingjiang and other area of PRC FYI. We hans had our presence in XIngjiang for thousand year, why hans can't stay in XIngjiang? Hans shall be treated euqally with Uyghers as well. To respect a culture, it doesn't mean to make it a under-developed and desolate area as AP.

Enough with AP, periods.

 

[dray]

@wanglaokan since you asked wheather they should, so I replied. But there is a difference between 'should' and 'will', they are probably not getting freedom unless PRC wants so.

 

[帅的一匹]

I personally respect Islamic religion while i'm a Christian. We don't have reigious discrimination and caste system in China, we are euqal. Uyghers are allowed for having three kids while Hans ony 1 kid.

@wanglaokan since you asked wheather they should, so I replied. But there is a difference between 'should' and 'will', they are probably not getting freedom unless PRC wants so.

You have the right to say at the least, since its a internationa forum.

 

[dray]

As i sane Chinese, i don't personaly hold grudge against Turkey. Hope Turkey can respect our soverign integrity and security.


As IA is stationing in AP, who the hell dare to say independant? Uyghers are free to pratice their religions in Xingjiang and other area of PRC FYI. We hans had our presence in XIngjiang for thousand year, why hans can't stay in XIngjiang? Hans shall be treated euqally with Uyghers as well. To respect a culture, it doesn't mean to make it a under-developed and desolate area as AP.

Enough with AP, periods.

IA is there for China, and AP wants them there for security from China.

 

[帅的一匹]

I think China should make it independent and bring Mongolia in its territory.

Mongolia is an independant country, we can't take it back or devour it. We won't let go of Xingjiang cause it shrinks our strategic depth, what is done is done.

IA is there for China, and AP wants them there for security from China.

Whatever, they don't have a choice either.

I think China should make it independent and bring Mongolia in its territory.

How many Pakistanis think just like you? on what perspective? religion based or others?

I don't think Han will eat Uygher culture cause they are very unique. They can learn Uygher language and culture in local school, they are legal righteous and protect by Constitutions.

I think China should make it independent and bring Mongolia in its territory.

I think Pakistan always support CHina's rule in Xingjiang in govermental level? We don't bully Uyghers, they are citizens of PRC.

@wanglaokan since you asked wheather they should, so I replied. But there is a difference between 'should' and 'will', they are probably not getting freedom unless PRC wants so.

I think your support for Uyghers independant is 90% determined by our poor relationship, ask yourself in the deep of heart. You don't care about Uyghers at all, anything negative influence to China is wothy supported.

I'm very frustrated that some Pakistani members aso suggest Xingjiang shall get independant. I respect you telling the truth, but it hurts.

China can't support PAK if we let Xingjiang independent cause we cut off the land connection to Pakistan Kirshmir if you engage with India in that area. some statement of Pakistani members let me reconsider whether we a re true ally or just utilized to contain India

I need to think about it, Chinese is dumb?

I don't care Turkiv member say, all I care is Pakistan attitude.

it just hurt like a Chinese member say Kirshir shall get independent.

 

[thesolar65]

Maybe Uyghers can move freely from CHina to Turkey if they are not happy with reign under CCP?

Yes they can and also give them a Big, Very Big Scissor (which can cut the earth itself)!!....

 

[usernameless]

@wanglaokan this is an interesting thread, thanks. It's only disappointing that many non-Turks have distorted the votes.

I think i can safely say that most Turks just want to see fair and proper treatment instead of violent separatism.

I'm looking forward to visit Xinjiang somewhere in 2016 or 2017.

 

[帅的一匹]

@wanglaokan this is an interesting thread, thanks. It's only disappointing that many non-Turks have distorted the votes.

I think i can safely say that most Turks just want to see fair and proper treatment instead of violent separatism.

I'm looking forward to visit Xinjiang somewhere in 2016 or 2017.

You are welcomed to visit Xingjiang, you might meet a beautiful girl there.

@wanglaokan this is an interesting thread, thanks. It's only disappointing that many non-Turks have distorted the votes.

I think i can safely say that most Turks just want to see fair and proper treatment instead of violent separatism.

I'm looking forward to visit Xinjiang somewhere in 2016 or 2017.

Its our responsibility to treat Uyghers properly, most of them are benevolent people.

Indians are everywhere in this forum, you just can't stop them voting the irrelevant.

 

[GoGetIt]

Uyghers should move to Turkey！

 

[usernameless]

You are welcomed to visit Xingjiang, you might meet a beautiful girl there.


Its our responsibility to treat Uyghers properly, most of them are benevolent people.

Indians are everywhere in this forum, you just can't stop them voting the irrelevant.

xie xie for the nice words, pengyou. I have met an Uyghur and we stay in touch via qq. Thanks to her i have a more objective view and learned that not all the bad news about the Uyghurs is true.
Have you been to Xinjiang? If i visit Shanghai or Beijing first and then go to Xinjiang, would it financially and time wise wiser to go by plane? or by train?