Shaheen III | News & Discussions.

[The Deterrent]

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There is a thread on PDF, that we also are gonna have 'Taimur' ICBM

Or maybe 'Tipu' and 'Taimur' are the same one?

Please do inform me if you hear these names as Pakistani ICBMs within the next 15 years...

 

[Sinnerman108]

In the name of GOD !

PLEASE !

Go play with your Tinker toys !

 

[Last Hope]

In the name of GOD !

PLEASE !

Go play with your Tinker toys !

Why what's wrong with it?
I got it from wikipedia.

 

[farhan_9909]

I think SHaheen is known as space booster.

Shaheen III is for SLV purpose because of having Re entry vehicle capability and Ghauri III is 4000km missile to counter the israel.

Govt annouced in 2004 that we will test Ghauri III tomorrow bt later the program was kept secret

it means Ghauri III with 4000km range is ready

 

[farhan_9909]

Pakistan Shaheen-III Space Booster

 

[Donatello]

It's a bird, to rain terror on to the enemies of Pakistan.

 

[Sinnerman108]

Why what's wrong with it?
I got it from wikipedia.

and that is what is wrong with it !
Wikipedia is a community knowledge service, NOT officially true knowledge service.

If you want, even you can edit info there.

 

[LeGenD]

The range of Ghauri-3 is claimed at 3000 - 3500 kms, as per reliable sources.

A prototype was probably tested in August 2000.

Why what's wrong with it?
I got it from wikipedia.

If you want to consult wikipedia, than focus upon articles which are GA class or better. Otherwise, avoid it.

 

[Mani2020]

AhaseebA;1403793]First,Pakistan does not have that much money to make different versions of each missile with varying payload (or different warheads).....

We didn't had it either when we were striving for becoming a nuclear power but in the end we made it .secondly every missile has a different role as they have different ranges and payload capability

Third,I think that Ghauri 3 program has been terminated because Shaheen 3 (if it IS under development) is better than it in every aspect.....

Ghauri is a liquid fuel missile and Shaheen is a solid fuel missile and both have their own characteristics which distinguish them .i don't see any logic for scrapping one because of other ,instead they will go side by side

Last,we do not have any ICBM under development, for these reasons:

1.We don't have the money for it.
2.There is no possible enemy except Israel,which will already be in range once Shaheen 3 (if it IS under development) is operational...
3.It will create tremendous International pressure which we cannot afford now...

As i told you before we also didn't have money when we became nuclear power and when we tested the range of missiles currently serving us

International pressure was also there when we were on the verge of a nuclear explosion ,even we suffered from embargoes at that time when we were solely dependent on west .we didn't stop then when we were dependent on west so why would we stop now when we are no more dependent on them atleast not the way like we were in 90's. we are having JV's with China and shifting to China also our local industry is in good shape with the production of Al-Khalid,jf-17 etc

 

[The Deterrent]

.secondly every missile has a different role as they have different ranges and payload capability

Apparently,you didn't get me...I was talking about making different versions of each missile system...which is expensive...

Ghauri is a liquid fuel missile and Shaheen is a solid fuel missile and both have their own characteristics which distinguish them .i don't see any logic for scrapping one because of other ,instead they will go side by side

I was talking about Ghauri 3 and Shaheen 3...
Ghauri 1 and 2 are operational...

As i told you before we also didn't have money when we became nuclear power and when we tested the range of missiles currently serving us

International pressure was also there when we were on the verge of a nuclear explosion ,even we suffered from embargoes at that time when we were solely dependent on west .we didn't stop then when we were dependent on west so why would we stop now when we are no more dependent on them atleast not the way like we were in 90's. we are having JV's with China and shifting to China also our local industry is in good shape with the production of Al-Khalid,jf-17 etc

Becoming nuclear power was our need ......but an ICBM is not our need.....
If we develop and fire an ICBM against US/NATO....(which is the only possible enemy left,since India is already and Israel will be in range)
we will have to face nuclear retaliation from a couple of countries...after which there is no chance of survival...

 

[Mani2020]

Apparently,you didn't get me...I was talking about making different versions of each missile system...which is expensive...

i already have stated that each version varies in range and maximum load of warhead it can carry

I was talking about Ghauri 3 and Shaheen 3...
Ghauri 1 and 2 are operational...

Sane goes for Ghauri 3 and Shaheen 3 that one is liquid fuel and the other one is solid fuel also both have different ranges and payloads similarly like the previous versions of both .adds to diversity which is always a good thing to have

If we develop and fire an ICBM against US/NATO....(which is the only possible enemy left,since India is already and Israel will be in range)
we will have to face nuclear retaliation from a couple of countries...after which there is no chance of survival..

Do you think we have to worry about what NATO and other's think when it comes to our national security matters?Also as far as them is concerned they were even not happy when China provided us with M-11 or when we tested Ghauri and Shaheen but did it matter?

US/NATO has always been biased when it comes to Pakistan and we have seen their double standard so if they have double crossed us in the past ,so whats the gurantee they will not again? You have to take the advantage of changing paradigm ,NATO is in Afghanistan and they need us more then us need them so why not to exploit conditions to our benefits before we loose this luxury

Once NATO leaves Afghanistan you will again see their attitude towards Pakistan which will be even more negative then now.So we have to suffer sooner or later anyway so why not by doing everything on our own terms and conditions

 

[khurasaan1]

Apparently,you didn't get me...I was talking about making different versions of each missile system...which is expensive...



I was talking about Ghauri 3 and Shaheen 3...
Ghauri 1 and 2 are operational...


Becoming nuclear power was our need ......but an ICBM is not our need.....
If we develop and fire an ICBM against US/NATO....(which is the only possible enemy left,since India is already and Israel will be in range)
we will have to face nuclear retaliation from a couple of countries...after which there is no chance of survival...

hey man dont be afraid of any body ..except Allah(s.b.w.t)..if he dont save us then nobody can save us...

 

[Babur Han]

There were Rumors about a pakistani ICBM called "Taimur"(Timur), this Missile is not listet !

BTW: Ghaznavi and Babur are Names from Turkic orign, both Ghaznavids and Mughals were Turkic Muslim Invaders of Indian Subcontinent.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

@Skywalker....... the name we heard was TIPU(Sultan Tipu).....A Muslim Sultan from the subcontinent who fought the british...... he was feared and respected by his enemies...

 

[Babur Han]

@Skywalker....... the name we hear was TIPU(Sultan Tipu).....An indian Muslim Sultan who fought the british...... he was feared and respected by his enemies...
Ghazvani is derived from the city of ghazna.... babur was a hybrid of mongol fathers and turkic mothers.

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@Skywalker....... the name we hear was TIPU(Sultan Tipu).....An indian Muslim Sultan who fought the british...... he was feared and respected by his enemies...
Ghazvani is derived from the city of ghazna.... babur was a hybrid of mongol fathers and turkic mothers.

Babur had mongolian ancestry from his Mothers Side, but he was Turkic and spoke Chagathay. Chagathai were an old Turkic Language which was widespreaded in the Area of Transsoxania, in Todays Time Chagathay is replaced by modern Uzbek Language.

The Ghaznavid Dynasty was rule by persifizied Turkic People.