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Shah mehmood qureshi you need to resign

don't go too far in history when 313 Shaba fight against a mightiest army of querish in Badar. just in our modern history, how mightiest power defeated when you trust on Allah. I am sharing you this 12-minute interview with Mullah Omar Mohammad, the Taliban leader, was conducted in Pashtu for the publicly-funded radio channel Voice of America. The broadcast was pulled, following objections from the US deputy secretary of state and senior officials of the National Security Council.

Voice of America interviewer: Why don't you expel Osama bin Laden?

Omar: This is not an issue of Osama bin Laden. It is an issue of Islam. Islam's prestige is at stake. So is Afghanistan's tradition.

VOA: Do you know that the US has announced a war on terrorism?

Omar: I am considering two promises. One is the promise of God, the other is that of Bush. The promise of God is that my land is vast. If you start a journey on God's path, you can reside anywhere on this earth and will be protected... The promise of Bush is that there is no place on earth where you can hide that I cannot find you. We will see which one of these two promises is fulfilled.


VOA: But aren't you afraid for the people, yourself, the Taliban, your country?

Omar: Almighty God... is helping the believers and the Muslims. God says he will never be satisfied with the infidels. In terms of worldly affairs, America is very strong. Even if it were twice as strong or twice that, it could not be strong enough to defeat us. We are confident that no one can harm us if God is with us.

VOA: You are telling me you are not concerned, but Afghans all over the world are concerned.

Omar: We are also concerned. Great issues lie ahead. But we depend on God's mercy. Consider our point of view: if we give Osama away today, Muslims who are now pleading to give him up would then be reviling us for giving him up... Everyone is afraid of America and wants to please it. But Americans will not be able to prevent such acts like the one that has just occurred because America has taken Islam hostage. If you look at Islamic countries, the people are in despair. They are complaining that Islam is gone. But people remain firm in their Islamic beliefs. In their pain and frustration, some of them commit suicide acts. They feel they have nothing to lose.

VOA: What do you mean by saying America has taken the Islamic world hostage?

Omar: America controls the governments of the Islamic countries. The people ask to follow Islam, but the governments do not listen because they are in the grip of the United States. If someone follows the path of Islam, the government arrests him, tortures him or kills him. This is the doing of America. If it stops supporting those governments and lets the people deal with them, then such things won't happen. America has created the evil that is attacking it. The evil will not disappear even if I die and Osama dies and others die. The US should step back and review its policy. It should stop trying to impose its empire on the rest of the world, especially on Islamic countries.

VOA: So you won't give Osama bin Laden up?

Omar: No. We cannot do that. If we did, it means we are not Muslims... that Islam is finished. If we were afraid of attack, we could have surrendered him the last time we were threatened and attacked. So America can hit us again, and this time we don't even have a friend.

VOA: If you fight America with all your might - can the Taliban do that? Won't America beat you and won't your people suffer even more?

Omar: I'm very confident that it won't turn out this way. Please note this: there is nothing more we can do except depending on Almighty God. If a person does, then he is assured that the Almighty will help him, have mercy on him and he will succeed.



but people like you, have no trust in Allah, and were anti-Taliban. today compare your respect (enlisted in FATFA- lost 80K people - bad economy-,untrustful , non-freidnly , list is endless-). if you don't act on time, Allah wrath will come more sevear to you guys and this filthy secular system in Pakistan lifted and vanished forever from this earth.

Hi,

And in return there were over 20 lakh ie 2 million afghans were killed for the Dumb & Stupid judgement of Mullah Umar---4 million made homeless---.

A Christian army entered and conquered a muslim country---and then made excuse to conquer another muslim country and another and another and another---.

And this great leader Osam Bin Laden was in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and humping his newly married 15 years old yemeni bride while poor afghans and pakistanis were dying---.

I know US doesn't like bold, honest and patriotic leaders in Muslim world but still for your opinion why do you think US would want to take out IK?

Hi,

US won't---not just like that---but if a change occured from within pakistan---SMQ is the front runner for that post---.

Let me quote you a brilliant mind Sun Tzu

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SunTzu is not one shoe fit all---

The Mongols smashed his ideology into smithereens---so did the Germans and so did the US military---The russian military holds no grudge against Sun Tzu---.
 
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I will be surprised if the Cabinet ministers are completely in sync on this and acting in total compliance. IK's biggest problem are his own people and the various groupings within the party.

I hope to be wrong on this one.

You're correct, and it's pretty much common sense.

What's the point of playing good cop, bad cop? Beyond making others look incompetent.

The truth is that these comments have been taken out of context by Indian news reports, and what SMQ said was 100% in line with PMIK.
 
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SunTzu is not one shoe fit all---

The Mongols smashed his ideology into smithereens---so did the Germans and so did the US military---The russian military holds no grudge against Sun Tzu---.

I understand that Sun Tzu tactics can't be applied on every scenario but care to explain how you came to those conclusions?
 
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I understand that Sun Tzu tactics can't be applied on every scenario but care to explain how you came to those conclusions?

Hi,

There are 100's f thousands of books written on the subject---you may have to read a few hundred to get the answer---.
 
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Hi,

There are 100's f thousands of books written on the subject---you may have to read a few hundred to get the answer---.

So am i right to presume that your conclusion is based on you reading hundreds of those books?
 
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Is there any other source available---?

I am not as enlightened as you sir, so i won't be able to answer that. But i would return to my previous question, how did you come to your stated conclusion? Was it by reading hundreds of those books that you mentioned that apparently exist on this topic? If yes, can you name just a few to assist in my quest.
 
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I am not as enlightened as you sir, so i won't be able to answer that. But i would return to my previous question, how did you come to your stated conclusion? Was it by reading hundreds of those books that you mentioned that apparently exist on this topic? If yes, can you name just a few to assist in my quest.

Hi,

I would go to my local library and just pick up a book at random---if I liked the writer i would read rest of his books---they were about war---world war---cold war---japan---south east asia and its conquest---soviet union mongols---Rome---british conquests---america---US conquest of the west---sub continent---and its conquest by spaniards---french---british---africa---crime and just all kind of books---.

Pretty much all works of fiction---.
 
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How dare he do that, clearly the Foreign Minister should have taken F-16 and attacked India instead


Yup, why did he have to bring the attention of possible false flag by India just few days ago and bring up the possibility of Indian attack back in March/April period when clearly it was best to keep quiet on both occasions and let India do whatever they planned
haha well put
 
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Hazrat Omar RA said words to the effect of, and I paraphrase : the day the Muslims fall behind in trade will be the first day of their downfall.
Don't tell us you are wiser than he. Everything in this world is down to trade, economy, business, wealth. Without it you cannot achieve anything because money is resources, it is manpower, it is food, it is arms, horses, swords, shields, guns, tanks, planes, nuclear weapons
At the time of the Prophet pbuh, appeals were made for Muslims to contribute in whatever way they could, be it financially or in manpower. If it was down to faith alone then the Prophet would never have asked for people to contribute wealth.
Bill Clinton put it another way" it's the economy, stupid"
After knowing the positions of the transgressor and the transgressed against, we need to know the stance that people should adopt towards each of them.

Anas
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reported: “The Messenger of Allah
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said: 'Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or is oppressed.' A man asked: 'O Messenger of Allah! I (know how to) help him when he is oppressed, but how can I help him when he is an oppressor?' He
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said: 'You can restrain him from committing oppression. That will be your help to him.'
” [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]
Al-Baraa’
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reported: “The Messenger of Allah
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commanded us with seven things (one of which is): “Support the transgressed.

Ibn `Umar
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and his father, reported that the Messenger of Allah
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said: “A Muslim is a brother of another Muslim. (So) he should not oppress him, nor should he forsake him (i.e. when he is being oppressed).” [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]

Therefore, one must support the oppressed and the one who is being transgressed against; the one who refrains from supporting an oppressed person, whilst being able to, is sinful.
 
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Mr moderator did you read the quote to which I was replying too? Can you please look for the word "Scum" in that quote. I just responded in very civilized manner that I could. Please go through the whole post. Thanks
2 wrongs dont make a right..He deleted his post now will you edit yours? I didnt issue any infraction just an open warning on the forum itself...as a reminder to EVERYONE!
 
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Hi,

And in return there were over 20 lakh ie 2 million afghans were killed for the Dumb & Stupid judgement of Mullah Umar---4 million made homeless---.

A Christian army entered and conquered a muslim country---and then made excuse to conquer another muslim country and another and another and another---.

And this great leader Osam Bin Laden was in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and humping his newly married 15 years old yemeni bride while poor afghans and pakistanis were dying---.



Hi,

US won't---not just like that---but if a change occured from within pakistan---SMQ is the front runner for that post---



SunTzu is not one shoe fit all---

The Mongols smashed his ideology into smithereens---so did the Germans and so did the US military---The russian military holds no grudge against Sun Tzu---.
It is better to live like lion for a day then to live like Jackal for Hundered Years ~ Tipu Sultan
 
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Shah Mehmood always do passive demplomacy, which is old style. Now this age of aggressive and national interest is primary.
 
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