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its not because of our "anger" of india not choosing either gripen or typhoon but that mbda's refusal to integrate a european missile into a russian jet. this would mean the sukhois weapon library would have to be heavily modified to handle the sukhoi, and the architecture is most certainly differant and have to be changed to evry sukhoi that would handel the meteor. oh and also politics said no.That is some fallacious reasoning.
If MBDA was really against selling Meteor because we didn't buy Eurofighters then we wouldn't be getting Meteors for the Rafales.
Also how do you know it's a farce?
Almost every fighter aircraft bought by India has gotten incremental orders.
If anything future Rafale orders cannot be discounted.
dont know, an indian ramjet missile would be available when the amca would be in available (~2035)Dream?
How many missile projects has DRDO just given up on?
If you could get the answer to that you would know that the SFDR is very much real.
so if small is in the hundreds so what is large thousands?
you do know im talking in the context of aircraft right, not missiles. do note the meteor goes for about £2+ million
and thats 40% more than the latest aim-120
this would mean the sukhois weapon library would have to be heavily modified to handle the sukhoi, and the architecture is most certainly differant and have to be changed to evry sukhoi that would handel the meteor. oh and also politics said no.
as for the farce, india purchasing aircraft in big numbers goes back to over a decade ago.
yes only 495 missiles pakistan buy missiles in the same bulk which is a county 5 tie smaller than india and 50 is the average number of fighter procured so it changes nothing.That's how we operate. We bought "only" 493 MICAs for our 50 Mirage-2000s. So you can scale up from there.
Yes, it's a bit expensive, but we can manage.
We spent $2.5M on each of those MICAs, so a cheaper and better alternative like the Meteor is the obvious choice if we want more Western missiles. The old Russian missiles were even more expensive in fact
Considering the significant global interest in the missile, the unit price of the Meteor will fall with continued production. And considering the UK is going down the drain, British pounds doesn't have a very bright future.![]()
We integrate weapons on the Su-30 on our own. No Russians involved.
how many rafales does india have?So 272 Su-30MKIs aren't real?
yes only 495 missiles pakistan buy missiles in the same bulk which is a county 5 tie smaller than india and 50 is the average number of fighter procured so it changes nothing.
the sterling has gained back it losses from the Brexit vote so its back to normal for us.
$2.5 million is quite high but expected coming from the french. do note the meteor is in sterling not usd which is about $3.3+ million
i find it hard to believe india would be able to integrate the python missile with out russain assistance or may be even without Israeli assistance considering they are the only ones with access to the wml. and they would never in a million years give india access to the wml and its source codes.
how many rafales does india have?
Message to India:
If you want Meteors get 110 Rafales.
i do recall you mentioned india acquired the "er" variant of the r27 in the early 2000's which in the aspect of range it is greater than that of the r77. but i used my words carefully here. i said modern not longest range. do bear in mind a missile that has a 120km range will not likely engage a target at that range as the kill ratio will decrease.
i would be more worryed with a mki armed with an r77 than with one with an r27, but thats just me.
the derby missile has a range of ~60km which is similar to the mica. as for the astra, it has not to my knowledge has entered serial production, there were one or two incidents with the latest launches not long ago.
thank go you didn't mention the k100.
now that you did bring up india's arsenal of bvraam missiles, pakistan does have a decent arsenal too. they had the old darter-t (derby clone) during the 2001 stand off and the current sd10a which according to an interview with some air force guy kaser tufal said the range is similar to the 120-c5. if you consider they purchased the sd10 after the 120-c5 id assume they competed them against each other.
however in one aspect where india does actually have the edge over pakistan is the wvraam area, as india has the mica and the python 5 and pakistan has the pl-5 aim-9 and the mectron maa-1a
isnt SD10 range beyond 100km, 110-120km?
Procurement to be completed in next 5000 years as no body knows what to fo with a 70s designed short legged air craft with no meteor
oh dear @randomradio .............. remember what i said ?
the only modern bvraam has is the r77 which as inferior to the aim-120.
which pretty much leaves india with the mk2's as the most capable fighters assuming they have the mica missiles
We also have the R27,and israeli Derby for the tejas,and now astra has entered production.Only PAF F-16s have aim-120,that is also c-5 model not AIM-120D.Meteor on rafales from next year will come regardless of this tangle.
I like your statement, every time you comment on Tejas you increase its age by 1 month. So project design finalized in sometime around 1995 becomes 45 years old after adding all these monthsActually substandard design... amf 45 years of developement makes it dead... they'd tried to give it a life line with meteor
PL-12C, PL-15 & PL-21D are going to be opponent of your new missiles don't worry about Pakistan and China.
https://sputniknews.com/politics/201701271050085721-china-missile-pentagon/