Serbian defense industry

[Dragi]

Why Maljutka on Lazar, don't you make some other missiles, Bumbar iirc....wouldn't that be more appropriate?

Brumbar is a man portable missile, I do not believe there is a vehicle mounted version. There is Alas, but all these weapons need to be sold abroad first and funds generated before they can go to the army.

So....Serbs.....opinion on migrants??? Any public demands of fencing of border with Macedonia?

I'm am ex-pat, so can't comment on situation at home, but none of these small countries have the resources to accommodate tens of thousands of refugee's. That said, Serbia looks like the only one not building fences. I think it's because the Serb;s know what it's like to be a refugee, burned and driven from your home. More so than any other Balkan community.
anyway, this is all off topic, thread is about defence industry or armed forces

 

[proka89]

Why are we shopping for Kamaz truck chassis from Russia when FAP is struggling to keep the doors open?

FAP 8x8 chassis can't carry Nora B 52 weight.

So....Serbs.....opinion on migrants??? Any public demands of fencing of border with Macedonia?

Most Serbs feel sorry for them, and understand situation they are in. I was also a refugee from Croatia. And during 90's Serbia accepted around 500 000 of Serbian refugees from Croatia and Kosovo. So many Serbs understand what is like to be a refuge. And contrary to the opinion, how we Serbs are all monsters and muslim haters, we showed the world how even with little resources that we have at our disposal, we did our best to help these people.

But if somebody thinks that they will be able to dump a large number of these people on Serbia for good, then they are highly delusional. We still have our own people living in a refuge centers, unemployment rate is over 20%, social givings are ridiculously small, and i absolutely have no idea how would someone from let's say Afghanistan live in Serbia. People in Serbia are trying to find a better life in other countries.

As far as immigrants are only going through Serbia, people here will be happy to help them. Providing food, medical care, shelter... And this is not a little thing, when you consider that we are one of the poorest countries in Europe. But you can be sure that average Serb doesn't want thousands of them to stay here for good.

Wait, the Serbs are now the good guys? – POLITICO

Why Maljutka on Lazar, don't you make some other missiles, Bumbar iirc....wouldn't that be more appropriate?

Bumbar is not yet in production. In the last few years our state owned defence companies are working on the revitalization of the rocket program production in Serbia, and that takes a lot of money. You can see a video about new modern forging center made in Krusik factory in a video on a previous page, which was open in 2010. Right now we are building a center for producing part for rockets (such is rocket motor chamber), also in Krusik, machines are already bought in Spain and some other countries. And other factories are also investing in their production capabilities. And all this takes time and lot of money, but it's necessary for us to produce missiles like Bumbar, ALAS...

And this version of Bumbar is made for short range combat in urban areas (range 600m, with option to increase to 1000m). It is SCALOS guided, but it is still a really complicated project, capable of soft launch from confined space, and capable to track and hit moving targets that are only 60m from a firing position.

So right now we don't have a missile that is adequate for this role. And they have probably put malyutka missiles, because they are cheap, but when modernized still quite capable, and many countries that are our traditional buyers have a bunch of those still in use.

 

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anyway, this is all off topic, thread is about defence industry or armed forces

Ya, just wanted to ask that one question, won't go offtopic anymore. Thanks for answers to you and @proka89 .

 

[Dragi]

FAP 8x8 chassis can't carry Nora B 52 weight.
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so the prototype/early production models are rolling around on Kamaz chassis?

Right now we are building a center for producing part for rockets (such is rocket motor chamber), also in Krusik, machines are already bought in Spain and some other countries. And other factories are also investing in their production capabilities. And all this takes time and lot of money, but it's necessary for us to produce missiles like Bumbar, ALAS....

Isn't Serbia also manufacturing new boosters for SA-3? I read recently that the effective range of SA-3 has been doubled by just modernizing ( adding new algorithms) to the flight control software?
I think this is a trademark of Serbian and Russian Engineering as well, the ability to take a 30-40 year old system and make it comparable to modern equipment.

 

[Royal Kathiyawadi]

why Serbians are now buying us weapons ??

 

[Dragi]

why Serbians are now buying us weapons ??

what are you talking about?
the US gave Serbia a few Humvee's a few years ago, but Serbia is not buying anything from the US AFAIK
PM: Serbia to buy Russian weapons for defensive purposes - Politics - on B92.net

 

[proka89]

so the prototype/early production models are rolling around on Kamaz chassis?

Only the functional model of Nora B (not B 52) was made on FAP chassis (FAP 2832 BS/AV). Nora B52 is further development of Nora B and first prototype and all serial Nora B52 were made on KAMAZ chassis.

 

[proka89]

Minister Gasic visited "Prvi Partizan" in Uzice

Defence Minister Bratislav Gasic visited today with his associates the company “Prvi Partizan" JSC Uzice and opened two new lines for the automatic production of shells in the reconstructed hall "Shells".

Minister Gasic also attended the signing of four contracts for the needs of the Serbian Armed Forces. The Ministry of Defence has signed agreements with factories of defence industry "Milan Blagojevic" Lucani, Cacak "Sloboda" and Uzice "Prvi Partizan".

The factory in Uzice negotiated production and delivery for the Ministry of Defence of 1,693,800 5.56 mm bullets, which have recently been introduced in the arms and military equipment of the Serbian Armed Forces.

With "Milan Blagojevic", two contracts have been signed for the procurement of powder filling and fuel for the repair of artillery and rocket systems in TRZ "Kragujevac" with a value of 485 million dinars, and a contract on procurement of ammunition elements worth 18 million dinars was signed with "Sloboda" JSC Company Cacak.

Defence Minister said that, in the next few weeks, contracts with other factories of defence industry for additional 600 million dinars will also be signed.

- Today we put into operation two new lines for the automatic production of shells for additional 30 per cent increase in production capacity of “Prvi Partizan”. Since 2012, when it had total turnover of more than 3 billion dinars, to this date, this factory has recorded a growth of traffic and ends this year with more than 8 billion dinars of value of the total workload. The growth of the scope of amount of worth was followed by a rise in the average wage of workers in the “Prvi Partizan” - Minister Gasic said.

He said that opening of another factory in Dautovac is planned, which would round off the investment cycle of 33.2 million euros, and enable safer and more secure working conditions for the workers who work in underground parts of Uzice defence industry.

Gasic underlined that the defence industry has achieved significant results in the last three years.

Talking about the safety of the employees in these factories, Minister Gasic stressed that this is one of the priorities when it comes to the defence industry.

General Director of “Prvi Partizan” Dobrosav Andric said that the 5 million euros invested in the opened two production lines for automatic production of shells will be earned back in the next few years and agreed with Defence Minister on their importance for contribution to the future increase in the production capacity of Uzice defence industry factory.

Today's tour of the factory was also attended by Assistant Minister for Material Resources Dr Nenad Miloradovic and directors of defence industry, and on behalf of the Ministry of Defence the contracts were signed by Director of the Directorate for Procurement and Sales of the Supply Department of the Sector for Material Resources Col. Dr Aleksandar Bukvic.

They are already producing ammunition worth around 75 million of euros. And at the end of the next year they plan to raise that to some 110-120 millions, which will confirm their position as one of the largest ammunition manufacturers.

 

[yugocrosrb95]

Good to see Serbian defense industry reviving a bit... Actions of Milošević ruined it.

 

[proka89]

Iraqi army receives heavy air-launched rockets

The Iraqi Army Aviation Command has taken delivery of an initial consignment of 128 mm air-launched rockets, the Iraqi Ministry of Defence (MoD) reported on 23 November.

The MoD did not identify the rockets or their manufacturer, saying only that they are of "international origin". It added that the results from test firings had been good and that the rockets are expected to play an influential and prominent role in forthcoming battles.

It also said it had received a new type of 80 mm air-launched rocket, saying it would be particularly effective against armoured vehicle suicide bombs. It released a video showing S-8-type rockets being loading into and fired from a 20-tube pod mounted on a Mi-17 helicopter.

Iraqi army receives heavy air-launched rockets | IHS Jane's 360

BR-VZ-128 mm AIRCRAFT ROCKET FAMILY | SDPR - Yugoimport

 

[KediKesenFare3]

The Serbs were never monsters. The conflict with the Albanians and Kosovars based on ethnic and political disputes. Later religion became an issue between these two groups because it's easy to use it as a tool to pursue and achieve their own objectives.

One of my best friends is a Serb. We understand each other perfectly. Only once I was attacked by a Serb indirectly. But she was a Bosnian Serb. These people are much more radical than Serbs from Serbia.

 

[Dragi]

The Iraqi Army Aviation Command has taken delivery of an initial consignment of 128 mm air-launched rockets, the Iraqi Ministry of Defence (MoD) reported on 23 November.

to be mounted on the new Czech L159's?
With a launch weight of 52.7 kg, the BR-VZ 128 mm M15 can achieve a maximum speed of 600 m/s, and an effective range of between 1,500 m and 3,000 m. Yugoimport has integrated a new RM M15 128 mm composite propellant rocket motor developed by Serbia's EdePro, and features four wrap-around folding stabilizer fins to the rear of the rocket. Yugoimport is also offering two warhead options (both weighing 22 kg) for the rocket: the BG-KR M15 128 mm cumulative tandem warhead and the BG-TF M15 128 mm high-explosive warhead.

Later religion became an issue between these two groups because it's easy to use it as a tool to pursue and achieve their own objectives.

It looks like Erdogan was trying to slice off a chunk of Syria like Israel did with the Golan?

 

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[yugocrosrb95]

Interesting yet building ships? Serbia does not have access to sea, only river/rivers.

Also why would an interceptor ship have auto cannon at the end?