Serbia wants to sell military equipment to Pakistan

[A.Rafay]

They are only offering us the Ammunition, Armored vehicles and Assault rifles Which we already develop at home! Like muhafiz Armored vehicle and amunition!But a new thing for buying should be welcomed

 

[Hashshāshīn]

Pakistan should buy if they want to. No need for this 'Muslim brotherhood'.

 

[A.Rafay]

Serbia, Pakistan agree to sign military deal

RAWALPINDI: Pakistan and Serbia on Thursday agreed on military deal besides entering into Preferential Trade Agreement and establishing joint ministerial commission, said a Defence Ministry spokesman.

According to officials, the agreements in this connection would be signed during Serbian delegation’s visit to Pakistan.

Defence Minister Naveed Qamar who is in Serbia also extended invitation to the Serbian president and prime minister to visit Pakistan to further deepen the ties. The officials said they would soon visit Pakistan after accepting the invitation.

Qamar met the highest leadership and command in the House of Guards in Topcider, Belgrade. The minister is leading a four-member delegation to Serbia. Serbian Deputy PM Aleksandar Vucic said that Pakistan was and would remain a friend of Serbia and has always been on the side of Pakistan in the international context. During the visit, Qamar met Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic, Prime Minister Ivica Dacic, the deputy prime minister, Defence Minister Aleksandar Vucic and Speaker of the Serbian National Assembly Nebojsa Stefanovic. The Defence Minister also visited various defence installations and witnessed a demonstration held by Serbian Special Forces.

The visit is aimed at identifying avenues for cooperation between the defence establishments of the two countries. In this context, a prospective Memorandum of Understanding on cooperation in the field of defence also came under discussion. The Minister also broached issues of opening of Serbian Embassy in Islamabad, concluding Preferential Trade Agreement and holding of Joint Ministerial Commission. The Serbian dignitaries assured their cooperation and stated that these issues will be addressed at priority.

Topic of the meeting held with Serbian president and deputy PM was the promotion of bilateral cooperation in different fields, and the two sides talked about the military-to-military, military-economic and military-educational cooperation.

 

[Hashshāshīn]

So are Serbian weapons better alternative to Chinese weapons? I am sure they are that's why there seems to be so much interest in the offer...

Yeah Serbian weapons are basically Russian weapon and Russia refused to sell Pakistan weapons, so this is a loophole for Pak to get Russian weapons.

 

[S.U.R.B.]

Fellas! take it easy on the surbians!

The shopping list is not that long.We are trying to improve our relations with every country.

Serbia is no exception.

 

[proka89]

If you all don't mind i will give you an answer, to the question: "What Serbian military industry has to offer?"

For start this is a short video representation which was held recently when we had a visit from Dmitry Rogozin:

Russians will help us with our new factory of advanced battle systems, in which we are supposed to produce self propelled howitzers like Nora B52, armored vehicles like Lazar and Lazar 2 (it is in process of developing with a help from Russians), BOV M10 and M11, new multiple rocket launchers, advanced rocket systems like ALAS and LORANA.....

This is the video from factory opening:

And that is just an introduction, i plan to represent most of our products if that is ok? I would not like to spam.

And here are a few pictures:

 

[proka89]

Nora B52K1 155/52 mm self-propelled howitzer

Weight 34 tonnes
Length 11000 mm
Width 2950 mm
Height 3450 mm
Elevation -3° to +65°
Traverse 60°
Maximum range 41,5 km - 65 km
Armor STANAG 4569 Level II on the front and back, STANAG 4569 Level I on the sides, mine protection STANAG 4569 Level 2A and 2B, NBC protection through a pressurized hull and filter-ventilation system
Main armament 155 mm/52-calibre (23 liter chamber)
Secondary armament 7,62mm Machinegun, alternatively a 7,62mm or 12,7mm RCWS can also be installed
Engine turbo diesel 410 hp
Operational range 1,000 km (620 mi) , at a speed of 80 km/h (50 mph)
Speed On-road: 90 km/h (56 mph)
Off-road: 15 km/h (9.3 mph)

SELF-PROPELLED HOWITZER 122mm “SORA”

Self-propelled howitzer 122mm SORA is intended for general fire support of brigade level units. It has been designed to fulfill requirements of the modern battlefield, which means that shoot-and-scoot principle is adopted as the main mode of operation.

Self-propelled howitzer SORA features whole upper part of 122mm howitzer D-30J mounted on the rear end of modified FAP 2026 BS/AV truck chassis. Main functions of the weapon system, such as navigation, gun lying, automatic loading of ammunition and deployment, are fully automatic.


SPECIFICATIONS

Combat weight (kg) 18.000
Range with projectile (m):
– TF-462 15.300
– TF ER BT ХМ08 18.500
– TF ER BB ХМ09 21.500

Automatic loader integrated in main armament

On board ammunition (rounds) 40

Rate of fire (rds/min) 6

Gun control equipment electromechanical / manual

Laying range (°):
– elevation from -5 to +70
– traverse 25 left and right

Laying speed (°/s):
– elevation from 0,1 to 5
– traverse from 0,1 to 5

Power to weight ratio (kW/t) 10,68

Speed (km/h):
– road 80
– cross country 20

Cruising road range (km) 500

Time for deployment and redeployment (s) 90
Crew 3

 

[proka89]

SOKO SP RR self-propelled howitzer

At SOFEX 2010, the Serbian Defence Company Yugoimport present for the first time to the public his new wheeled self-propelled howitzer, the SOKO SP RR 122/100/105 mm. The SOKO SP RR 122/100/105 mm (Self-Propelled Rapid Response) truck mounted gun howitzer family is consisting of three models, based on same truck chassis and gun mount, with three ballistic systems options:
- 122 mm D-30 J howitzer with appropriate standard and HE-BB ammunition, reaching combat ranges of 17.3 km with HE round and 21 km with HE/BB round.
- 100 mm tank gun with appropriate standard ammunition, reaching a maximum range of 24 km.
- 105 mm / 52 cal. long range ballistic system, with appropriate advanced ammunition reaching a range of 30 km with HE/BB round.

 

[proka89]

LRSVM Selfpropelled Multitube Modular Rocket Launcher

According to changed conditions of modern warfare, the development of the modern rocket system was started which will be capable to launch a different kind of missiles, regarding to caliber or range, with folloving features:

• Polymorphous (for different calibers and for different warheads)
• Modular subsystems
• Each function fully automated
• FCS (Firing Control System) integrated
• Capable for autonomous scheduled war missions
• Effective logistics (interchangeable launching pods)

BASIC TACTICAL TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS:

• Range
- 8.6 km (rocket 128mm PLAMEN A)
- 12,6 km (rocket 128mm PLAMEN D)
- 20.5 km (rocket 128mm OGANJ М77)
- 35 km (rocket 122mm GRAD)

• Launching device
- Interchangeable launching module (pod) for sigle or multiple use

• Number of launching pods at the platform
- 2 pieces

• Number of launching pods per launching platform
16 (PLAMEN)
12 (OGANJ)
12 (GRAD)

• Aiming subsytems
- Primary by means of INS (Inertial Navigation System),
- Auxiliary (by means of GPS and absolute encoders)

• Prepearation time for mission at firing post: 45 s
• Withdrawal time from firing post after mission: 30 s

BUMBAR (BUMBLE-BEE) SHORT RANGE ANTI-TANK MISSILE WEAPON

Bumbar is man-portable, short range guided anti-tank weapon system, designed in accordance with following development guidelines:
• Tandem hollow charge warhead, capable to destroy modern tanks with reactive homogenous armor;
• SACLOS guidance, improved anti-jamming protection based on sequential frames differential processing, and frequency, time and space discrimination;
• All terrains fighting capabilities including urban areas because missile can be launched from confined space;
• Shoulder or tripod launching modes.


BUMBAR COMPONENTS:

Main BUMBAR subsystems are:
• Firing post (sight-localizer-guidance computer /SLGC/ unit, junction box to provide connection between the missile round and the firing post, firing handles with the trigger button and safety device and thermal camera for night firings, which can be simply connected to the SLGC unit;
• Missile in launching tube;
• Tripod.

GENAERAL PERFORMANCE DATA
• Missile calibre 136 mm
• Minimum range 75 m
• Maximum range 600 m
• Flight time up to max range 4.6 s
• Hit probability 90%
• System realibility 90%
• Penetration behind ERA 900 mm
• Mass of weapon 19.8 kg
• Mass of tripod 4 kg
• Mass of firing post 4 kg
• Length of weapon 1.164 mm
• Temperature range -30 oC to 50 oC
• Crew 1+1

SYSTEM FUNCTION IMPROVEMENTS
• Increasing of maximum range up to 1000 m
• Laser beam riding

Bumbar 3000 thousand is almost ready. It shares 80% of the parts of basic version.

 

[proka89]

ALAS (Advanced Light Attack System) and LORANA

Highly lethal Advanced Light Attack System represents system imagined as fire & forget and fire, observe and update, multipurpose, TV guided weapon system. Basic idea was derived from long engineering experience in the design of aeronautical and rocket systems, as well as following the latest world trends in the field of the unmanned systems for different applications.

ALAS missile system is intended primarily for an anti-tank, anti-ship combat and land attack bombardment missions. It can be launched from light land vehicles, small ships or helicopters, utilizing a fiber optic data link to transmit and receive commands. Important application would be to conduct surgical strikes until heavier forces are available. Using its range it should extend the ALAS close-combat kill zone from 5 to 15 km and up to 25km from the first combat line.

The difference between ALAS and LORANA is that Lorana has a solid-propellant rocket sustainer motor in place of ALAS’s TMM-40 turbojet. The rocket motor gives Lorana a higher fly-out speed, but range is reduced from the ALAS’s 25km to 9km. Lorana has a 10kg mono-HEAT or tandem warhead. Other differences concern the flight surfaces.

 

[A1Kaid]

LRSVM Selfpropelled Multitube Modular Rocket Launcher

According to changed conditions of modern warfare, the development of the modern rocket system was started which will be capable to launch a different kind of missiles, regarding to caliber or range, with folloving features:

• Polymorphous (for different calibers and for different warheads)
• Modular subsystems
• Each function fully automated
• FCS (Firing Control System) integrated
• Capable for autonomous scheduled war missions
• Effective logistics (interchangeable launching pods)

BASIC TACTICAL TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS:

• Range
- 8.6 km (rocket 128mm PLAMEN A)
- 12,6 km (rocket 128mm PLAMEN D)
- 20.5 km (rocket 128mm OGANJ М77)
- 35 km (rocket 122mm GRAD)

• Launching device
- Interchangeable launching module (pod) for sigle or multiple use

• Number of launching pods at the platform
- 2 pieces

• Number of launching pods per launching platform
16 (PLAMEN)
12 (OGANJ)
12 (GRAD)

• Aiming subsytems
- Primary by means of INS (Inertial Navigation System),
- Auxiliary (by means of GPS and absolute encoders)

• Prepearation time for mission at firing post: 45 s
• Withdrawal time from firing post after mission: 30 s

BUMBAR (BUMBLE-BEE) SHORT RANGE ANTI-TANK MISSILE WEAPON

Bumbar is man-portable, short range guided anti-tank weapon system, designed in accordance with following development guidelines:
• Tandem hollow charge warhead, capable to destroy modern tanks with reactive homogenous armor;
• SACLOS guidance, improved anti-jamming protection based on sequential frames differential processing, and frequency, time and space discrimination;
• All terrains fighting capabilities including urban areas because missile can be launched from confined space;
• Shoulder or tripod launching modes.


BUMBAR COMPONENTS:

Main BUMBAR subsystems are:
• Firing post (sight-localizer-guidance computer /SLGC/ unit, junction box to provide connection between the missile round and the firing post, firing handles with the trigger button and safety device and thermal camera for night firings, which can be simply connected to the SLGC unit;
• Missile in launching tube;
• Tripod.

GENAERAL PERFORMANCE DATA
• Missile calibre 136 mm
• Minimum range 75 m
• Maximum range 600 m
• Flight time up to max range 4.6 s
• Hit probability 90%
• System realibility 90%
• Penetration behind ERA 900 mm
• Mass of weapon 19.8 kg
• Mass of tripod 4 kg
• Mass of firing post 4 kg
• Length of weapon 1.164 mm
• Temperature range -30 oC to 50 oC
• Crew 1+1

SYSTEM FUNCTION IMPROVEMENTS
• Increasing of maximum range up to 1000 m
• Laser beam riding

Bumbar 3000 thousand is almost ready. It shares 80% of the parts of basic version.

Does Serbia manufacture most of it's own weapons or imports from elsewhere?

BUMBAR (BUMBLE-BEE) SHORT RANGE ANTI-TANK MISSILE WEAPON

Bumbar is man-portable, short range guided anti-tank weapon system, designed in accordance with following development guidelines:
• Tandem hollow charge warhead, capable to destroy modern tanks with reactive homogenous armor;
• SACLOS guidance, improved anti-jamming protection based on sequential frames differential processing, and frequency, time and space discrimination;
• All terrains fighting capabilities including urban areas because missile can be launched from confined space;
• Shoulder or tripod launching modes.


BUMBAR COMPONENTS:

Main BUMBAR subsystems are:
• Firing post (sight-localizer-guidance computer /SLGC/ unit, junction box to provide connection between the missile round and the firing post, firing handles with the trigger button and safety device and thermal camera for night firings, which can be simply connected to the SLGC unit;
• Missile in launching tube;
• Tripod.

GENAERAL PERFORMANCE DATA
• Missile calibre 136 mm
• Minimum range 75 m
• Maximum range 600 m
• Flight time up to max range 4.6 s
• Hit probability 90%
• System realibility 90%
• Penetration behind ERA 900 mm
• Mass of weapon 19.8 kg
• Mass of tripod 4 kg
• Mass of firing post 4 kg
• Length of weapon 1.164 mm
• Temperature range -30 oC to 50 oC
• Crew 1+1

SYSTEM FUNCTION IMPROVEMENTS
• Increasing of maximum range up to 1000 m
• Laser beam riding

Bumbar 3000 thousand is almost ready. It shares 80% of the parts of basic version.

Nice, did Serbia manufacture and design this on it's own? I like the specs maximum range 600 m, hit prob, system prob, tripod and shoulder modes, laser beam riding, improved anti-jamming protection, all good features.

• All terrains fighting capabilities including urban areas because missile can be launched from confined space;

This seems like an impressive short-range ATGM, really sophisticated.

 

[proka89]

M90 Rocket Launcher

 

[A1Kaid]

Pakistan is currently using the Baktar-Shikan ATGM (a variant of the HJ-8) manufactured by Kahuta Research Lab. There are variants of the Baktar-Shikan one which is portable, one for armored vehicles, another an air-launch variant equipped on PAA AH-1 Cobras.

Ironically enough the Baktar-Shikan was used in the Yugoslav War used by Bosniac Muslims to attack the Serbian M-84 tank, it proved to be a formidable ATGM though I'm not sure of the exact number of Serbian tanks destroyed by this weapon, conflicting data on this. Bosniac Army called them the Pakistani "Green Arrow" ATGM, and there were used throughout Bosnian villages and towns and successfully damaged and destroyed a considerable number of Serbian tanks.

By the way no offense intended, just sharing Baktar-Shikan's operational history.

 

[proka89]

All those weapons are domestically designed and produced. Sometimes we do import some parts, but we are trying to produce most of it by ourselves. Of course we did borrow some of the ideas , for example ALAS is similar to canceled Polyphem missile....

Lazar MRAP/MRAV

The Lazar armored personnel carrier is named after the Serbian Prince Lazar, who headed Serbian Army in 14-th century. This APC was revealed in 2008.

Weight 16.3 t empty basic (with applique 28 t)
Length 7.25 m
Width 1.5 m - 2 m
Height 2.45 m (up to armored hull roof)
Crew 3, 10 passengers
Armor Basic Lv.III, Applique Lv.V
Main armament 20x110 mm autocannon M55
Secondary armament 7.62mm gun, 30mm grenade launcher
Engine diesel 440 hp
Suspension 2x2 tandem axles
Operational range 600 km before refueling
Speed 90 km/h

Cupola options:

- 7.62 x 54 mm machine gun M86
- 30 mm grenade launcher BGA-30 (Serbian license-built AGS-17)

Turret options:

- 12.7 x 108 mm machine gun M87/M02/M07 and 7.62 x 54 mm machine gun
- 20 x 110 mm cannon M55 (Yugoslav, now Serbian development based on the HS.804)[2] and 7.62 x 54 mm machine gun
- 30 x 170 mm cannon M86[3] and 7.62 x 54 mm machine gun

Possible AT missiles

 

[S.U.R.B.]

@proka89

You see an Air commodore and a group Captain in your pics above?

I'm interested to know.What do you think was on offer for them?