Secular West Bengal on fire again

[dadeechi]

great, bismillah kare

Yes Sir. Hopefully rest of the Hindus would be spared once the Justice is delivered to this guy. Hindus are peaceful people (some people say Hindus cleverly hide their cowardice behind peace which may not be untrue) and would not like to fight with anyone.

 

[PRC]

Aap kare to chamatkaar
Hum Kare to Balatkaar.

See a chamtkaari secular Indian doing what they do best.

Damn, why dont I see a similar reaction ???

 

[Anuj Tagra]

They only have big mouth..They don't go down to that level but they can have such capability if needed..

Bengal has always had this problem,it has the worst possible ruling elite of upper caste landlords who care only about their own profit and nothing beyond,the bhadralok in calcutta can keep on writing poetry and verbose secular articles but the RSS in Bihar has to strengthen and do something,until then such shit will continue,

Good if he is behind bars... how can u feel when u are not Muslim..

It was a political war of words between Azam Khan and Kamlesh Tiwari.

Tapan Ghose not much better than a twitter troll, but thats what it takes to become a governor in bjp regime.

Last time it was a reporter from Kolkata who spread rumours about kolkata is in fire which was retweeted by kanchan da no less. So i will wait for anandabazar report instead of believing sangh sleeper cells. Thank you.

so Tathagatha Roy will be your reference point now,is it?

funny that though you make this in bold and say lot of grand things about india, three progressives/rationalists have been murdered by the sangh since 2013 for saying much less than the underlined.

one of your thankers is @ranjeet ... when a dalit student/intellectual in karnataka was threatened by bajrang dal terrorists with finger chop-chop some months ago for writing against the caste system and brahminical oppression, ranjeet brushed away the incident saying that they only applied vermilion on his forehead and gave him a gentle warning... even a "gentle warning" by the bajrang dal would constitute a crime.

as for kamlesh tiwari's ignorant statement, any old-style desi socialist muslim could have put him in place in a intellectual debate, but sadly the media channels that the mob-minded jobnik middle-class watches, are generally sensationalist or pro-sangh ones like "zee news" and "aaj tak" who purposely bring in some half-baked mullah to talk on behalf of islam.

what type is Azam Khan?

There was some protests in park circus few months ago after rail police detained some muslim kids with a moulavi. They blocked a road and had some usual run ins with police. I opened twitter to see that a major riot has going on in Kolkata and most of the kolkata is burning. The rumour started by a sanghi journalist and was retweeted by heavyweights likes kanchan gupta, gaurav sawant etc. Was worried for my parents and woke them up in middle of the night to find out nothing happened.

The problem is not that whether the event was a 2,5,7/10 or a 9/10 in terms of intensity and consequences,it is about how votebank politics and appeasement has crept so deep into the minds and actions of the law enforcement,that the commonfolk have to suffer the impotence of the establishment,especially secular establishement.

 

[LaBong]

especially secular establishement.

There is nothing secular about Mamata.

 

[Anuj Tagra]

Kamlesh Tiwari should surrender to the Islamic groups to face the justice. He made an idiotic statement and need to face the consequences rather than putting rest of the Hindu population at risk.

surrender? he and his gang will come out all guns blazing,can u hide in a cave while the showdown lasts?

There is nothing secular about Mamata.

According to the media,there is only one non secular party or alliance in India which is BJP/NDA.

This issue will create a massive problem especially for those Dawah muslims/Christian preachers,if something happens to kamlesh tiwari there will be riots nationwide and the masjids at kashi/mathura will go for sure.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Wait, where are all the Pakistanis, etc. when Muslim radical mobs riot? Destroy temples, target non Muslims, etc? Totally fine, right?

India cant do the way of Europe with these type of people. These people are a breeding ground for radicals that disobey the law, or unwilling to accept the law in China, America, Britain, Russia, France, Philippines, Kenya, Nigeria, Australia, Trinidad, how many more?

If USSR, Chinese tongue on hook method needs to be applied to Muslim radicals, or any other radicals for that matter, so be it.

 

[Sky lord]

Kamlesh Tiwari should surrender to the Islamic groups to face the justice. He made an idiotic statement and need to face the consequences rather than putting rest of the Hindu population at risk.

And where does that end? Next time someone says something even milder or rings a bell at the wrong time or throws away a piece of paper with Arabic writing in it, they too will need to be handed over to the mob. Eventually you will all live like dhimmis which us what muslims wanted in the first place. Placating bullies only makes the bullying worse. There is no alternative to learning to fight.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

And where does that end? Next time someone says something even milder or rings a bell at the wrong time or throws away a piece of paper with Arabic writing in it, they too will need to be handed over to the mob. Eventually you will all live like dhimmis which us what muslims wanted in the first place. Placating bullies only makes the bullying worse. There is no alternative to learning to fight.

Typical Hindu- "Why fight when I can run and cry victim from a safe house?"
"I can also join the pseudo secular bandwagon and blame the Hindus. That way can justify that I was not kicked out but just relocated on my own free will. There, I have hid my cowardice well enough. All I need to do is to stay on he good terms of Mullahs...who knows, I may even get my old house back?"

surrender? he and his gang will come out all guns blazing,can u hide in a cave while the showdown lasts?



According to the media,there is only one non secular party or alliance in India which is BJP/NDA.

This issue will create a massive problem especially for those Dawah muslims/Christian preachers,if something happens to kamlesh tiwari there will be riots nationwide and the masjids at kashi/mathura will go for sure.

Let's be pragmatic. The mosques in Malda should be... Relocated.

 

[Sky lord]

the concern is that the concept of secularism is being pushed to its limits by certain educated & leftist sections of the society to accommodate radicalism, radicalism in the minority religious communities to be specific, and it is also being distorted by the political class to serve their petty political interests.

Beautifully put Rain man - as I was often told - " be open minded , but not so open minded your brains fall out "

 

[LaBong]

I also consider that the birth and rise of the right wing in India is the fallout of the failure of our (leftist)intellectuals and politicians to uphold secularism in its desired form. Maybe I should tag @Joe Shearer @scorpionx and @nair here.

Not true. Right Wing has always been there, it's just that its more clearly visible now than before thanks to social media.

Only change is that Indian nascent proffesional class has become most vocal proponent of RW ideology. They have a deep disdain for elites class as per them the elites dont deserve to draw the narrative, after all they are far better in math than these so called poets and actors!

Then there is also Modi's persona cult.

The problem of regressive left is not solely Indian, even though left has been quite successful at their fight against Christian/white extremism or hindu fanatics, they strangely become defensive when it comes to Muslims. My view is similar to Dawkins in this regard that all organized religions are fair to be ridiculed and no cow is too holy.

 

[itachii]

Kamlesh Tiwari should surrender to the Islamic groups to face the justice. He made an idiotic statement and need to face the consequences rather than putting rest of the Hindu population at risk.

that explains your psyche and the reason why u guys moved south to A.P. and when these mob culture prevails in your place and muslims ask for the heads of non-muslims you guys will be the first to leave the place again right ?

 

[dray]

The problem of regressive left is not solely Indian, even though left has been quite successful at their fight against Christian/white extremism or hindu fanatics, they strangely become defensive when it comes to Muslims. My view is similar to Dawkins in this regard that all organized religions are fair to be ridiculed and no cow is too holy.

That's fair enough. Whatever is the policy, it should be consistent without any logical contradictions whatsoever.

 

[LaBong]

That's fair enough. Whatever is the policy, it should be consistent without any logical contradictions whatsoever.

Well one man's consistency is another man's whataboutry!!

 

[dray]

Well one man's consistency is another man's whataboutry!!

On the contrary, there was a visible lack of consistency there!

 

[kobiraaz]

In Bangladesh you can disrespect any Muslim figure without any retaliation from the people except the knife of hassasiyuns spark from time to time.

It seems like WB is more religious than BD.