Secular West Bengal on fire again

[dadeechi]

And where does that end? Next time someone says something even milder or rings a bell at the wrong time or throws away a piece of paper with Arabic writing in it, they too will need to be handed over to the mob. Eventually you will all live like dhimmis which us what muslims wanted in the first place. Placating bullies only makes the bullying worse. There is no alternative to learning to fight.

Unfortunately, India has become the Ekachakrapura and there is no Bhim to fight the Bakasura. Forget about fighting, there would not even be a counter rally.

 

[dadeechi]

that explains your psyche and the reason why u guys moved south to A.P. and when these mob culture prevails in your place and muslims ask for the heads of non-muslims you guys will be the first to leave the place again right ?

I grew up in Hyderabad during 70s & 80s when communal violence was a seasonal feature. Hindus have always been at the end of the receiving end.

Do you think anybody cares? Aamir and Shahrukh can make a statement on intolerance of Hindus and get away with it as they know that there would not be any repercussions as Hindus are peaceful (or cowards) people. Did you see any one making a single statement in this case? Even media is afraid to report it. Everyone knows that they would have to give away their head if they did.

And don't expected anything from the Sanghis either. Mr Modi is currently busy defending and exonerating not only Nawaz but also Raheel with regards to the Pathankot terror attack.

 

[utraash]

Hindus are paying the price of their impotency ...... When European educated folks can go & join the pious cause of ISIS we can't expect much from illiterate green gangs of our side..... On top of that mother of evil is at the helm of Bengal .....
Lesson for india Go green else results will be same as was in history.....

 

[bongbang]

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[Chinese-Dragon]

Secular violence seems eerily similar to Sectarian violence.

 

[TejasMk3]

Interesting set of tweets:

https://twitter.com/x/status/683895895792857088

1) Maldah riot is interesting from demographic PoV. It occurs in sub-district Kaliachak-1. Maldah has ~50% Muslims, but Kaliachak-1 ~90%.

2) Kaliachak-1 is east of Ganga. In Kaliachak-1, Hindus left in substantial numbers (~30%) only in Kaliachak-Baliadanga region. Rest gone.

3) Hindus have been fully eliminated from Chaspara-Sujapur (~2-3%), & Alipur to the south (~10%). Silampur to north has only ~15% Hindus.

4) Rural areas to west also seem Muslim (Rural Kaliachak ~8% Hindu). Kaliachak-Baliadanga isolated Hindu (minority) pocket in Muslim sea.

5) Eliminating Kaliachak-Baliadanga would ensure de facto undisturbed Muslim rule in Kaliachak-1 sub-district & eliminate Hindus E of Ganga.

6) Saw same thing in Assam 20 yrs ago. Hindus broken into pockets in rural Dhubri & eliminated 1 by 1 till big towns were totally cut off.

7) Even today, Dhubri & Gauripur towns are Hindu, but totally cut off from the rest of the world. Same tactic being repeated in WB now.

8) This ties in with the `Maoist strategy' of capturing the villages first, surrounding the big cities & forcing their capitulation.

9) If so, we are seeing a demographic, low profile (but very effective) version of Maoism by Islamists to make it untenable for Hindus.

10) This strategy is superb for Islamists - low key violence in rural areas never covered by media. It requires thought by us to counter it.

 

[Kaniska]

That's my hometown.. In some places it is serious.. Muslims are doing communal clashes on monthly basis..Kaliachak,Sujapur are the places where most of such communal incidents take place..There are more than 70-80% of muslims..

Communal clashes are quite expected if you see they are present with more than 40%...

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Interesting set of tweets:

https://twitter.com/x/status/683895895792857088

1) Maldah riot is interesting from demographic PoV. It occurs in sub-district Kaliachak-1. Maldah has ~50% Muslims, but Kaliachak-1 ~90%.

2) Kaliachak-1 is east of Ganga. In Kaliachak-1, Hindus left in substantial numbers (~30%) only in Kaliachak-Baliadanga region. Rest gone.

3) Hindus have been fully eliminated from Chaspara-Sujapur (~2-3%), & Alipur to the south (~10%). Silampur to north has only ~15% Hindus.

4) Rural areas to west also seem Muslim (Rural Kaliachak ~8% Hindu). Kaliachak-Baliadanga isolated Hindu (minority) pocket in Muslim sea.

5) Eliminating Kaliachak-Baliadanga would ensure de facto undisturbed Muslim rule in Kaliachak-1 sub-district & eliminate Hindus E of Ganga.

6) Saw same thing in Assam 20 yrs ago. Hindus broken into pockets in rural Dhubri & eliminated 1 by 1 till big towns were totally cut off.

7) Even today, Dhubri & Gauripur towns are Hindu, but totally cut off from the rest of the world. Same tactic being repeated in WB now.

8) This ties in with the `Maoist strategy' of capturing the villages first, surrounding the big cities & forcing their capitulation.

9) If so, we are seeing a demographic, low profile (but very effective) version of Maoism by Islamists to make it untenable for Hindus.

10) This strategy is superb for Islamists - low key violence in rural areas never covered by media. It requires thought by us to counter it.

Same thing happened in Kashmir.

Though never in numbers (Muslims always outnumbered Hindus since the forced secularization programs of Sikander Butshikan), the Islamist ideas actually took root in the villages first, reaching Srinagar last.

But then, the reverse is true as well. Islamism was killed in the villages first. But then that was the Rashtriya Rifles doing the job. It was done by physically terminating thousands of young jihadis and jihadi wannabes.

 

[dray]

Only change is that Indian nascent proffesional class has become most vocal proponent of RW ideology. They have a deep disdain for elites class as per them the elites dont deserve to draw the narrative, after all they are far better in math than these so called poets and actors!

Aren't you a part of that 'nascent professional class' minus the vices that you have mentioned? This is the 2nd time I am seeing this line of argument, the 1st time I saw it in facebook where some 'intellectuals' were discussing that how the IIT/IIM guys and other such professionals are just well-trained, and nothing more than that. I didn't reply to them then following my childhood learning that "kana ke kana bolite nai, khora ke khora bolite nai", but I will tell you what I didn't tell them then...in the last paragraph.

While knowing far better math isn't a criterion for 'drawing the narrative', but the same is also true for skills like writing poetry or acting! Besides, what is an "Elite class" in a democratic political structure? In the real world the narratives are drawn by the hardcore politicians (and most of these politicians have a professional background, though I am not taking that line of argument).

I will tell you what internet and social media has done, these technologies have made information easily accessible to the public, so understandably sharper 'nascent professional class' quickly finds out the flaws or misinformation in the arguments of these self-proclaimed 'intellectuals', and using the social media publicly points it out! Leftists have made a ecosystem that supports and promotes only the people with leftist bent, and outcasts anyone voicing a different narrative, as described by the O'sullivan's First Law. Just see how the writers boycotted the Bangalore Lit Fest just because one of the founder members of that event voiced a different opinion! Now the internet and social media is threatening their cozy club of (leftist) 'intellectuals', hence the hue and cry.

For example, in a Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose related thread I posted an article by the historian Dr Purabi Roy, and landed in deep shit when a member here who was supporting Nehru busted that article! Dr Roy found a picture of Netaji from some archive and after duly scrutinizing it in her professional capacity concluded that the picture was probably taken in Russia after his disappearance, and went on to write a long elaborate piece on her discovery in a mainstream English newspaper. That pdf fellow just did a image search and in two seconds showed that the picture was taken in Germany during his stay there (something that I should have done without trusting the historian). Now imagine what degree of 'intolerance' Dr Roy would feel if someone tweets her with that google link or post it in her facebook profile!

Btw, if you are wondering why did I write "Understandably sharper nascent professional class" above; I am not sure about the rest of the world, but at least in India the bottom 40%-50% of the students go to study in arts stream, barring a very few exceptions, and the mediocre among that bottom 40%-50% go to study history, again barring a very few exceptions, later in life they might give each other the certificate of intellectuality, but more often than not they are not the most intelligent specimens of the population, it's just a feel-good tag that some people love to wear, in reality "Buddhijibi" is a bogus term.

 

[CorporateAffairs]

Khangress govt earlier had issued aadhar cards to illegal migrants and terrorists for votes.
BTW this is the trend created by chinese bootlicking party the communists.
Continued by momta.
Bengal will only burn, i see no end.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Secular violence seems eerily similar to Sectarian violence.

You know that statement, "taking kindness for weakness"?

It's secularism, democracy, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, etc. these radicals love when they're a minority, but as soon as they're a majority, you'll see that all fade and total disregard for local law follows.

India needs to make it clear in every Indian psyche that there is no other law stronger than the national ones - this is over what ever book you follow as well. And if easily trifled with, you can face severe repercussions.

They have been pretty liberal with radicals like this for far too long. Please have someone like J. Edgar Hoover heading the intelligence agency, and view these radicals(this doesnt just include Islamic ones) as a threat like communist to the US back then and see what happens.

 

[baajey]

where is the intolerance issue now ??
even after arresting the accused person, the mobs are still disquiet n baying for blood. its not like the accused have chopped hands or killed ppl.
if muslims are unable to practice tolerance, how can they (or anybody other) complain about the intolerant attitude of hindu fringe elements.
eye for an eye situation.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Aren't you a part of that 'nascent professional class' minus the vices that you have mentioned? This is the 2nd time I am seeing this line of argument, the 1st time I saw it in facebook where some 'intellectuals' were discussing that how the IIT/IIM guys and other such professionals are just well-trained, and nothing more than that. I didn't reply to them then following my childhood learning that "kana ke kana bolite nai, khora ke khora bolite nai", but I will tell you what I didn't tell them then...in the last paragraph.

While knowing far better math isn't a criterion for 'drawing the narrative', but the same is also true for skills like writing poetry or acting! Besides, what is an "Elite class" in a democratic political structure? In the real world the narratives are drawn by the hardcore politicians (and most of these politicians have a professional background, though I am not taking that line of argument).

I will tell you what internet and social media has done, these technologies have made information easily accessible to the public, so understandably sharper 'nascent professional class' quickly finds out the flaws or misinformation in the arguments of these self-proclaimed 'intellectuals', and using the social media publicly points it out! Leftists have made a ecosystem that supports and promotes only the people with leftist bent, and outcasts anyone voicing a different narrative, as described by the O'sullivan's First Law. Just see how the writers boycotted the Bangalore Lit Fest just because one of the founder members of that event voiced a different opinion! Now the internet and social media is threatening their cozy club of (leftist) 'intellectuals', hence the hue and cry.

For example, in a Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose related thread I posted an article by the historian Dr Purabi Roy, and landed in deep shit when a member here who was supporting Nehru busted that article! Dr Roy found a picture of Netaji from some archive and after duly scrutinizing it in her professional capacity concluded that the picture was probably taken in Russia after his disappearance, and went on to write a long elaborate piece on her discovery in a mainstream English newspaper. That pdf fellow just did a image search and in two seconds showed that the picture was taken in Germany during his stay there (something that I should have done without trusting the historian). Now imagine what degree of 'intolerance' Dr Roy would feel if someone tweets her with that google link or post it in her facebook profile!

Btw, if you are wondering why did I write "Understandably sharper nascent professional class" above; I am not sure about the rest of the world, but at least in India the bottom 40%-50% of the students go to study in arts stream, barring a very few exceptions, and the mediocre among that bottom 40%-50% go to study history, again barring a very few exceptions, later in life they might give each other the certificate of intellectuality, but more often than not they are not the most intelligent specimens of the population, it's just a feel-good tag that some people love to wear, in reality "Buddhijibi" is a bogus term.

Superbly articulated. Wish I could give a positive rating. I miss Joe now.

 

[dray]

Superbly articulated. Wish I could give a positive rating. I miss Joe now.

@Joe Shearer is already here, it's difficult to quit pdf!