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The secret is CHINA...

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Of course it must be India - but in that case, why not say so? Is it possible that the Bush Administration wants something from India? Yes, it does. It wants India to become the South Asian anchor of its strategy for "containing" China militarily

to cope with the rise of China to great-power status". They want to encircle China with a ring of American allies in a reprise of the US containment strategy against the Soviet Union in the 50s and 60s. In this strategy India is the main prize

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10332349

Gwynne Dyer: US in dangerous game over India

24.06.05

A curious thing happened in Tokyo last week. United States Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Nicholas Burns gave a speech there saying that the US backed a limited expansion of the United Nations Security Council from 15 to 20 members.

Only "two or so" of the five new seats should be permanent members with full veto rights, however - and Japan should be one.

Now, here's the funny thing. How did it happen that they mulled all this over at the State Department, and decided there must be only two new permanent members, and agreed Japan should be one - then dropped the subject? Maybe it was too nice out and they all decided to go golfing.

Call me cynical, but I think they know who they want the other permanent member to be. They just want something in return before they say so.

India should have had a permanent seat on the Security Council from the start, but the United Nations was set up in 1945 and India didn't get its independence from Britain until 1947. For 58 years the second-most populous country has been frozen out of the world's highest council.

Of course it must be India - but in that case, why not say so? Is it possible that the Bush Administration wants something from India? Yes, it does. It wants India to become the South Asian anchor of its strategy for "containing" China militarily.

The neo-conservatives who control defence and foreign policy under President Bush were demanding a huge rise in US military spending even before September 11 "to cope with the rise of China to great-power status". They want to encircle China with a ring of American allies in a reprise of the US containment strategy against the Soviet Union in the 50s and 60s.

In this strategy India is the main prize, and the Bush Administration is trying to woo New Delhi into a close military and strategic relationship. It is offering India first-line F-16 fighters now, and access to the next generation of US combat aircraft when it becomes available. It is offering Patriot and Arrow missiles, access to American civil nuclear technology, and high-tech co-operation in the domain of satellites and launch vehicles. Above all, it is offering India the leading role in its emerging Asian alliance structure.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's Government is clearly nervous about this, but also flattered. As his media spokesman Sanjaya Baru put it: "India is an ancient civilisation and has a mind of its own, but our views are moving in parallel with the US and Anglo-Saxon world."

Although no date has yet been officially confirmed, President Bush has several times said he hopes to visit India before the end of this year.

There are two main obstacles to this strategic match. One is the fact (which even bothers members of Manmohan Singh's Cabinet) that this sort of alliance would be a betrayal of everything India has stood for since independence, and that it might be preferable not to spend the first half of the 21st century mired in a military confrontation with India's giant neighbour across the Himalayas.

The other is the Indian Communists, who hold almost 70 seats in the Lok Sabha (parliament), crucial to the survival of Singh's minority coalition Government. They are dead set against what would amount to a military alliance with the US (though it would never be called that), and so Singh's Government wavers, unsure which way to jump. Meanwhile, China has started making counter-offers on free trade, the settlement of old border disputes and the like.

So the United States has produced another carrot: a permanent seat for India on the Security Council. Except that Washington will only throw its weight behind the idea publicly if and when India signs up for the containment strategy.

It is a dangerous and needless strategy that will alarm China and lead to prolonged military confrontation in Asia. Indians should not be seduced by it. China is not their enemy. For that matter, it is not America's enemy, either.
 
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I think india should milk the us cow first e,get the latest technology, permanent seat in security council and then say good bye to usa if it really wants to say goodbye. I personally do not think us alliance is too bad for india.
 
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encircle china by using India .??? then Pakistan is one of them cause they have already given base to america .:woot:
 
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I think india should milk the us cow first e,get the latest technology, permanent seat in security council and then say good bye to usa if it really wants to say goodbye. I personally do not think us alliance is too bad for india.

if one looks at past us allies they dont always get such a sweet deal, however i suppose one must also acknowledge india cannot be bullied like other nations.


i hope sensible indians realise that to some extent india are dancing with the devil with the US, remember india are still the junior partner in this alliance, and if they do choose to go on this path they will isolate other nations unless they can pull off a great balancing act.
 
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if one looks at past us allies they dont always get such a sweet deal, however i suppose one must also acknowledge india cannot be bullied like other nations.


i hope sensible indians realise that to some extent india are dancing with the devil with the US, remember india are still the junior partner in this alliance, and if they do choose to go on this path they will isolate other nations unless they can pull off a great balancing act.

India can not be allies of other nation's but only partner.
 
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if one looks at past us allies they dont always get such a sweet deal, however i suppose one must also acknowledge india cannot be bullied like other nations.


i hope sensible indians realise that to some extent india are dancing with the devil with the US, remember india are still the junior partner in this alliance, and if they do choose to go on this path they will isolate other nations unless they can pull off a great balancing act.

Sir india not a country that can't be bullied. India is 1.1 billion population country that is nearly 4 times in population then america. India is emerging power and america can't treat india the way it treated pakistan sir. America worried of china and they need indian support to counter china. India is the one benefiting with this friendship as we are getting latest technology that not even america's allys getting. Example hawekey 2D, P-8i etc etc. Uk, autralia, israel not the one getting it but india getting it. This shows how much close india and america got to each other and it will keep getting close to each other in coming years sir.
 
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Spelling mistake. i mean't was india not a country that can be bullied.
 
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if one looks at past us allies they dont always get such a sweet deal, however i suppose one must also acknowledge india cannot be bullied like other nations.


i hope sensible indians realise that to some extent india are dancing with the devil with the US, remember india are still the junior partner in this alliance, and if they do choose to go on this path they will isolate other nations unless they can pull off a great balancing act.

have a look and have a look at India. Which was so powerful...........
 
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c'mon guys it just a matter of money and US knows very well how to sell their products using Pak-Ind. relations
 
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actully america is uesing india to achive the targets. but i think india is also geting benfit of this game and if iam not rong may be india geting out soon from this game befor americans use them aganist china
 
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@inferno - Tech coop is good, US has more reasons for such coop then Indians and i doubt if it amounts to milking (what about the quid pro quo that Indians provide - diplomatic tag teaming. BTW NRIs have been making a lot of contributions in their eco). Its negotiations that Indians should be focusing at. US can afford to loose allies just as easily as it can afford to make allies. We obviously cannot afford to keep changing horses. Apropos the permanent seat in security council I think we should wait for at least 1 to 2 decades instead of buying the goods at higher prices. By 2020 or 2030 we will have a significantly larger economy comparable to some present US allies and the it would be the UN that will want Indians in for fear of looking like UNable. At that time there will be all round pressure (except Chi-Pak) on the US to get India in.

Just my view though.....

@r3alist - Indians are just like Pakistanis minus the hate. Hazar ghodon ka tanga. Indians could not sort out Indians yeh Americans kya kar lenge. Indians find it difficult to rein in this chaos that is the only reason we needed the democratic institutions and lay public understands that even though the other guys plate seems fuller but it is wiser to save what is there in ones own plate.

@ISRO2 - I beg to differ. Indians have been bullied earlier by US and Americans had been successful almost everytime they tried. Its different matter that there advantage was never lasting. The disadvantes of their temporary advantages coupled with the China factor forced them to think of thinking of India.

@ebungo - Encirclement is a nonsense strategy. But historically every country creates allies (UK did by helping US with Jet tech and intel coop and long diplomatic tag teaming, So did Indians and Soviets, So did Japs and Americans etc...) Such relationships have obvious and critical advantages and my view is that We should be cooperating with Americans and Anglo-Saxons.
 
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