Scenario: India vs China in an Himalayas war

[Aegis DDG]

Let's make an legitimate and realistic war scenario in an possible Indo-China clash. In the opening phase, Indian Army troops make the offensive by moving 155mm Arty guns and fires salvos at PLA border encampment and assaults off-guard Chinese held positions in the disputed ridges and Mountains while widening it's road systems capacity to transport reserves from the Northern commands of the Indian Army. The Chinese, since attacked unexpectedly, hold of Indian assaults despite fewer numbers. Superior Han Chinese discipline/Confucian order and better training routines than the Indians cost the enemy severely but the Chinese (despite achieving kill ratio of 1:8) loses their FOBs and Positions.

The famous Indian strike corps fortifies captured Chinese positions and creates arty bofor 155 mm gun positions and guides attacks on Chinese installations and infrastructures like Roads via IAF Su-30MKIs from AB in N.Dehli/N.India. The PLA's Chengdu Military Region mobilizes and an special emergency equivalent to India's mountain strike corps is hastley made and is send of to recapture and assault on Indian held territories. The PLA's missile force launches SRBM at Indian CoC and FOB bases that host major equipment. Cut of communications and facing Long range bombardment, IAF is mobilized to Launch Brahmos Missiles at Chinese missile trucks but is shot down by an squadron of J-11B, J-10A. But PLAAF suffers heavy losses despite having gained Air Superiority (Losing H-6 and JH-7s bomb trucks that was bombing Indian Infrastructures and Launching CM/JDAMs/LGB at Troop positions ).

To prepare for an ground assault against the IA's Strike corps for the first time since the battles with the PLA border troops, the PLAAF is assigned to soften Indian positions by precision bombing while being assisted by PLAGF SP Artillery guns with Guided rounds (knocking out fortifications that may have 155mm guns). An month into the war, the elite gound forces of the PLA's Chengdu Military region and deployed PLA Tibetan troops make the first assault on Indian positions and IA quickly surrenders to Chinese troops not only due to the bombing campaigns and armed resistance but also the onset of heavy winter in the high palutues. An fear of full scale war due to reports of Chinese reserve troops from lanzhou military regions makes the Indian Government sue for peace. The PRC wins like in the 1962 conflict and suffers 1,000 killed and 5,000 wounded while India suffers 7,900 deaths and 4,000 wounded. What your opinion on this story and do you have an more realistic approach to such an war? Also please leave out nukes, this is an conventional war..

 

[HongWu]

New Delhi is wiped out in a megaton nuclear blast. All the states separate.

India has no thermonuclear weapons. China had them since 1967.

 

[sree45]

Let's make an legitimate and realistic war scenario in an possible Indo-China clash. In the opening phase, Indian Army troops make the offensive by moving 155mm Arty guns and fires salvos at PLA border encampment and assaults off-guard Chinese held positions in the disputed ridges and Mountains while widening it's road systems capacity to transport reserves from the Northern commands of the Indian Army. The Chinese, since attacked unexpectedly, hold of Indian assaults despite fewer numbers. Superior Han Chinese discipline/Confucian order and better training routines than the Indians cost the enemy severely but the Chinese (despite achieving kill ratio of 1:8) loses their FOBs and Positions. The famous Indian strike corps fortifies captured Chinese positions and creates arty bofor 155 mm gun positions and guides attacks on Chinese installations and infrastructures like Roads via IAF Su-30MKIs from AB in N.Dehli/N.India. The PLA's Chengdu Military Region mobilizes and an special emergency equivalent to India's mountain strike corps is hastley made and is send of to recapture and assault on Indian held territories. The PLA's missile force launches SRBM at Indian CoC and FOB bases that host major equipment. Cut of communications and facing Long range bombardment, IAF is mobilized to Launch Brahmos Missiles at Chinese missile trucks but is shot down by an squadron of J-11B, J-10A. But PLAAF suffers heavy losses despite having gained Air Superiority (Losing H-6 and JH-7s bomb trucks that was bombing Indian Infrastructures and Launching CM/JDAMs/LGB at Troop positions ). To prepare for an ground assault against the IA's Strike corps for the first time since the battles with the PLA border troops, the PLAAF is assigned to soften Indian positions by precision bombing while being assisted by PLAGF SP Artillery guns with Guided rounds (knocking out fortifications that may have 155mm guns). An month into the war, the elite gound forces of the PLA's Chengdu Military region and deployed PLA Tibetan troops make the first assault on Indian positions and IA quickly surrenders to Chinese troops not only due to the bombing campaigns and armed resistance but also the onset of heavy winter in the high palutues. An fear of full scale war due to reports of Chinese reserve troops from lanzhou military regions makes the Indian Government sue for peace. The PRC wins like in the 1962 conflict and suffers 1,000 killed and 5,000 wounded while India suffers 7,900 deaths and 4,000 wounded. What your opinion on this story and do you have an more realistic approach to such an war? Also please leave out nukes, this is an conventional war..

Yu even estimated the number of casualties?? wtf?

IA's position is clear. It will remain a defensive force. If PLA starts using military force to acquire disputed territories then only the strike corps comes into picture.

New Delhi is wiped out in a megaton nuclear blast. All the states separate.

India has no thermonuclear weapons. China had them since 1972.

Ok. We will be wiped out. But imagine a few fission devices falling in the center of few of your cities. Is china willing to sacrifice all its growth for a barren piece of land by escalating it to a nuclear conflict?

 

[beijingwalker]

If China attacks first,she will draw harsh criticism even embargo from around the world,but if India goes for that first,it will be a different story,what China needs to do is to constantly get on their nerves and keep prodding them.

 

[third eye]

Let's make an legitimate and realistic war scenario in an possible Indo-China clash. In the opening phase, Indian Army troops make the offensive by moving 155mm Arty guns and fires salvos at PLA border encampment and assaults off-guard Chinese held positions in the disputed ridges and Mountains while widening it's road systems capacity to transport reserves from the Northern commands of the Indian Army. The Chinese, since attacked unexpectedly, hold of Indian assaults despite fewer numbers. Superior Han Chinese discipline/Confucian order and better training routines than the Indians cost the enemy severely but the Chinese (despite achieving kill ratio of 1:8) loses their FOBs and Positions. The famous Indian strike corps fortifies captured Chinese positions and creates arty bofor 155 mm gun positions and guides attacks on Chinese installations and infrastructures like Roads via IAF Su-30MKIs from AB in N.Dehli/N.India. The PLA's Chengdu Military Region mobilizes and an special emergency equivalent to India's mountain strike corps is hastley made and is send of to recapture and assault on Indian held territories. The PLA's missile force launches SRBM at Indian CoC and FOB bases that host major equipment. Cut of communications and facing Long range bombardment, IAF is mobilized to Launch Brahmos Missiles at Chinese missile trucks but is shot down by an squadron of J-11B, J-10A. But PLAAF suffers heavy losses despite having gained Air Superiority (Losing H-6 and JH-7s bomb trucks that was bombing Indian Infrastructures and Launching CM/JDAMs/LGB at Troop positions ). To prepare for an ground assault against the IA's Strike corps for the first time since the battles with the PLA border troops, the PLAAF is assigned to soften Indian positions by precision bombing while being assisted by PLAGF SP Artillery guns with Guided rounds (knocking out fortifications that may have 155mm guns). An month into the war, the elite gound forces of the PLA's Chengdu Military region and deployed PLA Tibetan troops make the first assault on Indian positions and IA quickly surrenders to Chinese troops not only due to the bombing campaigns and armed resistance but also the onset of heavy winter in the high palutues. An fear of full scale war due to reports of Chinese reserve troops from lanzhou military regions makes the Indian Government sue for peace. The PRC wins like in the 1962 conflict and suffers 1,000 killed and 5,000 wounded while India suffers 7,900 deaths and 4,000 wounded. What your opinion on this story and do you have an more realistic approach to such an war? Also please leave out nukes, this is an conventional war..

The part in Red above indicates a pre supposition which leaves no room for discussion.

 

[sree45]

If China attacks first,she will draw harsh criticism even embargo from around the world,but if India goes for that first,it will be a different story,what China needs to do is to constantly get on their nerves and keep prodding them.

It isn't 1962. IA is a lot mature now and strike corps wouldn't be called unless it was clear that PLA had declared war. Indian politicians these days are more worried about international image. SO, rest assured what you are saying isn't going to happen.

 

[navtrek]

Let's make an legitimate and realistic war scenario in an possible Indo-China clash. In the opening phase, Indian Army troops make the offensive by moving 155mm Arty guns and fires salvos at PLA border encampment and assaults off-guard Chinese held positions in the disputed ridges and Mountains while widening it's road systems capacity to transport reserves from the Northern commands of the Indian Army. The Chinese, since attacked unexpectedly, hold of Indian assaults despite fewer numbers. Superior Han Chinese discipline/Confucian order and better training routines than the Indians cost the enemy severely but the Chinese (despite achieving kill ratio of 1:8) loses their FOBs and Positions.

The famous Indian strike corps fortifies captured Chinese positions and creates arty bofor 155 mm gun positions and guides attacks on Chinese installations and infrastructures like Roads via IAF Su-30MKIs from AB in N.Dehli/N.India. The PLA's Chengdu Military Region mobilizes and an special emergency equivalent to India's mountain strike corps is hastley made and is send of to recapture and assault on Indian held territories. The PLA's missile force launches SRBM at Indian CoC and FOB bases that host major equipment. Cut of communications and facing Long range bombardment, IAF is mobilized to Launch Brahmos Missiles at Chinese missile trucks but is shot down by an squadron of J-11B, J-10A. But PLAAF suffers heavy losses despite having gained Air Superiority (Losing H-6 and JH-7s bomb trucks that was bombing Indian Infrastructures and Launching CM/JDAMs/LGB at Troop positions ).

To prepare for an ground assault against the IA's Strike corps for the first time since the battles with the PLA border troops, the PLAAF is assigned to soften Indian positions by precision bombing while being assisted by PLAGF SP Artillery guns with Guided rounds (knocking out fortifications that may have 155mm guns). An month into the war, the elite gound forces of the PLA's Chengdu Military region and deployed PLA Tibetan troops make the first assault on Indian positions and IA quickly surrenders to Chinese troops not only due to the bombing campaigns and armed resistance but also the onset of heavy winter in the high palutues. An fear of full scale war due to reports of Chinese reserve troops from lanzhou military regions makes the Indian Government sue for peace. The PRC wins like in the 1962 conflict and suffers 1,000 killed and 5,000 wounded while India suffers 7,900 deaths and 4,000 wounded. What your opinion on this story and do you have an more realistic approach to such an war? Also please leave out nukes, this is an conventional war..

Do not underestimate your enemy. Nor do we have Nehru nor are the men of the Indian army selected on bias. What you are going to face is a professional army.

That much said i dont see any confrontation with China. let there be greater trade and friendship

 

[Hellraiser007]

If China attacks first,she will draw harsh criticism even embargo from around the world,but if India goes for that first,it will be a different story,what China needs to do is to constantly get on their nerves and keep prodding them.

With the economy slowing down and there are no signs of recovery for years, If you keep doing those stupid things and chest thump, it will only harm chinese and china.

 

[thesolar65]

New Delhi is wiped out in a megaton nuclear blast. All the states separate.

India has no thermonuclear weapons. China had them since 1967.

How do you know India does not have any thermonuclear device? Does a Kiloton or a megaton makes a difference after they are exchanged? BTW why do you want to use the BOMB from the word go? Are you petrified of a conventional war?

 

[HongWu]

What is happening now is China prefers to focus on USA and Japan and leave India in peace. But India wants to take advantage of China's tension with USA and Japan to gain the upper hand in the border dispute.

India thinks it has the national power to force the issue with China [hence the constant IA border moves] but China is not willing to concede to India because in reality we are far far more powerful. India simply doesn't realize if push comes to shove, China can quickly devastate India and carve it into pieces even while we hold our position against USA and Japan.

If India's national power grows more and more powerful, then it would be a different story 10 or 20 years later. Right now, India's internal problems have completely hobbled its economy and the rupee is hyperinflating. India is too weak to force any concession from China; it's heading toward failed-state status. That is why China is pushing back aggressively against Indian moves on the border.

Most likely, India will not realize its military inferiority to China in time, and a border stand-off will escalate into a skirmish; the skirmish will escalate into a border war. Then India will be completely devastated by PLA.

 

[Kolaps]

I don't understand why the issue of India-China war is so popular.

In Chinese people, no one ever thought about it at all.

 

[Tractor]

What is happening now is China prefers to focus on USA and Japan and leave India in peace. But India wants to take advantage of China's tension with USA and Japan to gain the upper hand in the border dispute.

India thinks it has the national power to force the issue with China [hence the constant IA border moves] but China is not willing to concede to India because in reality we are far far more powerful. India simply doesn't realize if push comes to shove, China can quickly devastate India and carve it into pieces even while we hold our position against USA and Japan.

If India's national power grows more and more powerful, then it would be a different story 10 or 20 years later. Right now, India's internal problems have completely hobbled its economy and the rupee is hyperinflating. India is too weak to force any concession from China; it's heading toward failed-state status. That is why China is pushing back aggressively against Indian moves on the border.

Most likely, India will not realize its military inferiority to China in time, and a border stand-off will escalate into a skirmish; the skirmish will escalate into a border war. Then India will be completely devastated by PLA.

China not so powerful and no need to intrude into real Indian lands.
Just Chinese government's recent ocean-forward policy and tough standpoint over Senkaku Islands make me think that China is doing something that 'avoid the important and dwell on the trivial' for our leaders consider the issue between India and China is too difficult to resolve and chinese attention on this issue must be transferred elsewhere.

I don't understand why the issue of India-China war is so popular.

In Chinese people, no one ever thought about it at all.

Not really,at least me.

 

[nair]

Why would there by war in first place???? What is the gain for both countries and how much cost one has to pay for that gain??? ( i mean for the country who starts the war first).... Well not much is gonna gained from a war in himalayas..... and as some one said it is in 1962....China is not same as 1962.... so is India..... If you ask me the hypothetical question raised by the OP will remain Hypothetical for a long time.......

Yes there will be small small incidents here and there...... Which if both government agrees to have serious look i am sure it can be resolved

 

[veekysingh]

why these kind of stupid fanbboys vs threads are allowed to post on a defence forum ? @mods , @areonot pls just close this thread down cause no one gonna talk anything valuable here.

 

[Aegis DDG]

People seem to forget that it's just an case Senario. I clearly stated that if you have an better story/alternative to come up with than do do so..