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BEIRUT, LEBANON (11:20 A.M.) – A group of Saudi soldiers were pictured desecrating a Shiite mosque on Tuesday after harassing civilians inside the ‘Awamiya District of the Qatif Province.

In the pictures released of the Saudi regime forces, their soldiers were seen inside the Shiite house of worship after destroying the building.

The soldiers were then pictured standing atop of photos of the slain Shiite preacher, Sheikh Nimr Al-Nimr, who is from the Qatif Province of east Saudi Arabia.

The Saudi regime forces have recently taken to social media to brag about the ‘Awamiya siege that has displaced thousands of civilians and killed several other residents.

The Al-Saud regime maintains that their forces are carrying out a ‘necessary’ operation to clear the ‘Awamiya District of ‘terrorists.’

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https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/pictures-saudi-soldiers-desecrate-shiite-mosque/
 
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Nonsense propaganda thread from Leith Abou Fadel:

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I don't want to hear anything about those terrorists being innocent lambs that are suddenly attacked out of nowhere.

People can see what I wrote in this thread almost 3 months ago.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/saud...d-in-qatif-terror-attack.495507/#post-9476179

Saudi child, Pakistani expat killed in Qatif terror attack
Mohammed Al-Sulami | Published — Saturday 13 May 2017

JEDDAH: A Saudi child and a Pakistani man were killed and 10 injured when armed assailants fired at company workers carrying out a development project, then at bystanders and passers-by in Qatif in the Eastern Province.
The suspects, who fled the scene, also targeted company vehicles with explosives. The aim was to obstruct the demolition of abandoned old houses in Al-Masoura district, which terrorists used as hideouts and dens for criminal activities including kidnapping and drug-peddling.
Policemen arrived at the scene and exchanged fire with the assailants, who then started shooting heavily and randomly, killing and injuring members of the public.
Al-Masoura is one of the town’s oldest areas, with some of its buildings more than 100 years old.
The area contains unplanned buildings, and the development project entails the demolition of 488 residential units, and construction of shopping centers, restaurants, residential towers and a cultural center.
The Interior Ministry said security forces will continue their duty to enforce the law so as to guarantee the continuation of the project.
The ministry praised people who cooperated with the security forces. It urged everyone to stay away from the project area and the roads leading to it for their own safety. The ministry also called on the suspects to surrender themselves to the authorities.

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1098626/saudi-arabia

This is what I wrote back then:

إنا لله وإنا إليه راجعون

Cancer cells in Al-Awamiyah (the only unsafe city in KSA and the most crime-ridden in a otherwise very crime-free country) at it again. I have no doubt in my mind that the cancer cells behind this hideous attack against innocents and construction workers who tried to improve their city will be captured, killed or sentenced to death as usual.

I wish a speedy recovery to the wounded. They will have justice.

The 2 year old Saudi Arabian toddler who died in this cowardly terrorist attack:

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Soon those guys below will deal with the rats:


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Two, including infant, killed after terror shootout in Saudi Arabia’s Qatif

Staff writer, Al Arabiya English
Friday, 12 May 2017

Two people, including an infant, were killed and 10 others wounded after terrorists shot at workers at a development project in the eastern Qatif governorate and left the scene, Al Arabiya News Channel reported.

The incident took place at Al-Masoura neighborhood in Al-Awamiya town in Qatif on Friday.

A Saudi interior ministry spokesperson said that the terrorists fired indiscriminately and heavily at passers-by killing a two-year-old Saudi national, a Pakistani resident.

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The shooting also damaged construction equipment for the demolition of dilapidated houses. (Supplied)

Ten people including six Saudi nationals were wounded in the attacks. The injured include a woman and two children, a Sudanese national, an Indian national who is in a critical condition, in addition to four security men who suffered minor injuries.

The Saudi Ministry of interior added that the terrorist elements targeted development projects in Qatif province, where they confronted shooters hiding in the neighborhood.

The spokesperson added that workers of the company executing one of the development projects in the district of Al-Masoura in the province of Qatif were subjected to heavy firing by the terrorists.

The attack targeted the project with explosive devices to obstruct its development.

The terrorists were staying in abandoned houses and used the Al-Masoura neighborhood as a base to execute kidnappings and attacks on innocent citizens.

The Saudi interior also praised the people of Al-Awamiya who cooperated with the security forces. At the same time they called upon everyone to stay away from the project area and the roads leading to it for their own safety.

The ministry also called on the culprits to surrender themselves to the authorities and confirmed that one of the wanted men was killed during the confrontations.


Last Update: Saturday, 13 May 2017 KSA 15:58 - GMT 12:58

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/Ne...-killed-after-terror-shoot-out-in-Qutaif.html

How little Jawad got killed in Awamiya attacks
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Jawad al-Dagher, a Saudi child killed in attacks targeting al-Awamiya in the center of Qatif, on Friday. (Supplied)

By Staff writer, Al Arabiya English Friday, 12 May 2017

Terrorists ended the life of Saudi infant, Jawad al-Dagher, who was only three years old as they fired indiscriminately at Al-Awamiya in the center of Qatif, on Friday.

The attack was intended to stop the development project adopted in the area.

A serious injury to the head ended Jawad’s life amid the screams of his mother who could not believe what happened.


The attack was intended to stop the development project. (Supplied)

More shots were fired at the site by a number of terrorists which injured 10 people, including a women and other residents and security personnel.


The shooting also damaged construction equipment for the demolition of dilapidated houses. (Supplied)

The shooting also damaged construction equipment for the demolition of dilapidated houses in the neighborhood. The neighborhood was the site of the latest security operation to eliminate wanted Walid al-Arid.

In a bid to stop them, the project's execution company asked the security agencies to protect them in order to carry out their duties by removing the houses and stopping their recurrent crimes in the area.

Last Update: Saturday, 13 May 2017 KSA 23:21 - GMT 20:21

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/Ne...ttle-Jawad-got-killed-in-Awamiya-attacks.html

My blood is boiling. I would skin those bastards alive. We want the cancerous terrorists beheaded heads to be displayed in public for all as a warning. As with the worst criminals.

Something like this from a few years ago in Jazan. A gang of Yemeni drug dealers, armed robbers and murderers received this treatment and since then no such incidents have occurred.



If the crime levels and small terrorist attacks against security forces and now civilians continue, certain neighborhoods in this small city should be razed to the ground. Some locals are aiding those local terrorists and if the security forces cannot deal with them (they so far have done a good job and I have no doubt that this will continue), the people (locals and non-locals) are waiting to deal with them.

After yesterday my patience has ended. We cannot afford another toddler and peaceful expat to lose his life to such cancers. No, what we need to do is to strike even harder next time and completely annihilate them and their supporters. No prisoners should be taken. Make an example out of them.

EP Shiite scholars plead with terrorists to give up arms
MOHAMMED AL-SULAMI | Published — Wednesday 24 May 2017
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Saudi Shiites gather during an occasion in the coastal town of Qatif, Eastern Province, in this file photo. (AFP)

JEDDAH: A group of Shiite scholars in the Eastern Province has condemned recent attacks on the Kingdom’s security officers and citizens. In a statement, eight senior clerics expressed concern over the violent incidents in Awwamiyah, condemning terrorism and the use of weapons.
They demanded terrorists put down their weapons and surrender.
They said the use of violence is neither legal nor is it a feasible way to solve problems. Terrorism only complicates matters, undermines stability and threatens the interests of the country and its people, they added.
They emphasized that the country’s security and governance are the responsibility of the state, and called on young people to abandon violence and resort to peace and dialogue to demand their rights.
These officials do what they deem right to run the affairs of citizens, especially the people of Awwamiyah, who are the center of attention in the development of Al-Masurah neighborhood, which commenced after homeowners were duly compensated.
The scholars emphasized the importance of communication between authorities and the Awwamiyah residents in order to solve problems as the state is committed to taking care of citizens’ interests.
They appealed to leading figures of the town to play an active role in finding solutions to people’s problems there.
They said in the statement: “We condemn the mobilization of the sectarian media by certain social networking sites,” asserting that the anti-cybercrime law will be strictly implemented against whoever exploits the events for sectarian gains.
The statement expressed the views of eight scholars of the Eastern Province — Sheikh Abdullah Al-Khunaizi, Ali Al-Nasser, Sheikh Mansour Al-Salman, Sheikh Hassan Al-Saffar, Sheikh Abdulkareem Al-Hebail, Sheikh Yusuf Al-Mahdi, Sheikh Ghaleb Al-Hammad, and Sheikh Hassan Al-Khuwaildi.

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1103926/saudi-arabia

A nice initiative and not really surprising as it once again confirms the strong social fabric of KSA. Contrary to popular belief KSA is home (indigenously) to one of the most diverse groups of Muslims in the world in terms of Islamic communities and sects. We have large populations of indigenous Hanbalis, Shafi'i's, Malikis, Hanafis, Sufis, Twelvers, Zaydis and Ismailis. All living peacefully without any sectarianism or regional hatred outside of very sporadic incidents on social media and even more rare in person. Not all this can be attributed to a strong security apparatus as this was also the case when KSA was a much weaker country internally.

We often hear, especially in Western and Iranian media, that the Eastern Province (which is falsely claimed to be a majority Shia (Twelver) province, which is not the case although Shias make up around 1/3 of the population) is a Shia majority Province but this is mainly restricted to the Qatif region. In that historical region the population is one of the most well-to-do communities in KSA. In general Shias in KSA (at least the non-Southern Zaydis and Ismailis) have the highest living standards of any Shias in the Muslim world.

Not only that most are incredibly patriotic people, albeit a portion of them disagree with the state-funded and dominant Hanbali clergy. Basically the only troublesome area of KSA in terms of unrest and crime (in a otherwise very crime-free country) is one small city (overall) called Al-Awamiyah as explained in post 2 in this thread. This is also the home city of the Al-Nimr family. Basically it is a big lose for the minority of violent troublemakers in that city that even clerics within their city are clearly against them.

The recent attack and killing of 1 innocent LOCAL toddler and 1 Pakistani expat, gives those troublemakers no favors but only more hatred from the locals who helped catch them. Not only that their opposition to the improvement of infrastructure in Al-Awamiyah also runs counter to the wishes of the locals.

Like all people who resort to violence and terrorism against locals and fellow countrymen, they will eventually lose all support aside from among a tiny hardcore element. Especially in a small city such as Al-Awamiyah and in a country where Shia Twelvers are clearly outnumbered and where there is zero tolerance for a Wilayat al-Faqih Mullah theocratic republic. It is simply a doomed project beforehand that will lead to nothing but mistrust and possibly dislike that will impact innocents in Al-Awamiyah when they will look for employment outside of their city. That city already has a bad reputation due to the crime there so no need to make it any worse. The government could have used a much harsher policy ages ago to deal with such elements in that city but our government is thankfully not a stupid government like for instance other regional ones such as Al-Assad whose policies would have caused a civil war in that region.

If those violent troublemakers/terrorists disagree with certain things they should chose the way of dialogue and try to obtain the support of their community which in turn could open a dialogue with other communities in the country and solve the differences together if possible.​

No destruction of any mosque either. However any mosque that has photos of a well-known executed traitor (Nimr al-Nimr) should face closure.

Luckily this is limited to a small neighborhood of 1 small city (25.000 big) called Al-Awamiyyah. This neighborhood has already been cleared from terrorists.

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Sectarianism does not work inside KSA. Attempts at fueling such feelings have been futile and will remain so.
 
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Images and clips were photoshop or made by majusi/rafidha actors?

The terrorists were dealt with. All that matters.

Nothing wrong with those beautiful images.

BTW you are an atheist Iranian. What business do events in KSA or the Arab world for that matter have for you?

Should you not worry about your own Mullah regime that nobody is even close to (equivalent of North Korea) when it comes to persecution of Islamic minorities, other religious minorities, ethnic groups etc.?

Rather than worrying about a small neighborhood being cleaned from terrorists and a neighborhood where all civilians left long ago.
 
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Awamiyah: Three-year-old boy dies from wounds after Saudi security forces ‘open fire on family’

Sajaad Mohamed Abu Abdallah spent two months in intensive care before succumbing to his wounds after bullets hit his uncle’s car in the besieged Shia neighbourhood of Awamiyah

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Locals say between 12-25 people have died in indiscriminate shelling and sniper fire which has completely flattened parts of the old al-Musawara neighbourhood. Riyadh has repeatedly denied such claims.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...at-open-fire-qatif-shia-nimr-al-a7886136.html
 
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Awamiyah: Three-year-old boy dies from wounds after Saudi security forces ‘open fire on family’

Sajaad Mohamed Abu Abdallah spent two months in intensive care before succumbing to his wounds after bullets hit his uncle’s car in the besieged Shia neighbourhood of Awamiyah

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Locals say between 12-25 people have died in indiscriminate shelling and sniper fire which has completely flattened parts of the old al-Musawara neighbourhood. Riyadh has repeatedly denied such claims.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...at-open-fire-qatif-shia-nimr-al-a7886136.html

Sure. Local police (themselves mostly Shia) are shooting at children as they have nothing better to do despite the fact that this tiny neighborhood could have been erased to the ground years ago within a few hours. Hilarious. Unlike the few 100 terrorists/hooligans who have killed numerous local civilians, expats, construction workers and police doing their job.

BTW civilians dying is always a regretful thing but don't pretend that you care about Saudi Arabian Shias suddenly. It's a joke.
 
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The terrorists were dealt with. All that matters.

Nothing wrong with those beautiful images.

BTW you are an atheist Iranian. What business do events in KSA or the Arab world for that matter have for you?

Should you not worry about your own Mullah regime that nobody is even close to (equivalent of North Korea) when it comes to prosecution of Islamic minorities, other religious minorities, ethnic groups etc.?

Rather than worrying about a small neighborhood being cleaned from terrorists and a neighborhood where all civilians left long ago.
Both bahrani and saudi and even Iraqi shias have democratic tendencies which I respect, they don't agree with wahabi/salafi idea of respecting the leader/ruler (whoever it might be)/not rising up against the ruler.
I truely believe that any anti-salafist force should be encouraged, armed or peaceful.

I have the right to involve myself and to give my opinion, just like how saudi supported taliban in Afghanistan, or supports terrorist mosques in non-islamic (western), atheist, non-arab, secular countries.
 
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Both bahrani and saudi and even Iraqi shias have democratic tendencies which I respect, they don't agree with wahabi/salafi idea of respecting the leader/ruler (whoever it might be). I truely believe that any anti-salafist force should be encouraged, armed or peaceful.

I have the right to involve myself and to give my opinion, just like how saudi supported taliban in Afghanistan, or supports terrorist mosques in non-islamic (western) countries.

All Arab people which you have nothing to do with.

Nothing to do with regimes, leaderships or rulers in power. It's about not tolerating terrorists and hooligans which is something that 95% of all inhabitants of Al-Awamiyyah don't do either. They are happy that those terrorists have been dealt with.

No support of any Taliban (which is a native movement and even today the most popular political movement in Afghanistan) other than acknowledging the ground realities. No such thing either. Every mosque built in the West has been approved by that country beforehand and is monitored by that country. Whatever a tiny, tiny, tiny minority (a few individuals) do afterwards is their problem and not the fault of any mosques. If that was the case millions of terrorists would be walking around in Europe which is not the case. They are limited to a few 100 people or at most a few 1000 people out of a community of 30-40 million European Muslims. If simply attending a mosque can make you a terrorist you have had mental problems beforehand or you are extremely ignorant and naive. This is the problem of that person. Simple as that.

You can do whatever you want to. I just exposed this thread and your agenda here. Rest I don't care about as your views are irrelevant as a foreigner and ignorant and biased person.
 
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The terrorists were dealt with. All that matters.

Nothing wrong with those beautiful images.

BTW you are an atheist Iranian. What business do events in KSA or the Arab world for that matter have for you?

Should you not worry about your own Mullah regime that nobody is even close to (equivalent of North Korea) when it comes to persecution of Islamic minorities, other religious minorities, ethnic groups etc.?

Rather than worrying about a small neighborhood being cleaned from terrorists and a neighborhood where all civilians left long ago.
He is weird when moqtada al mangholi(al Sadr) visited al dub al dasher ( bin salman) he started to act like a radical Shia and said muqtada betrayed the Yemeni children and nimr al nimr even though he consider the iranian government as arab slave enemy of the iranian culture and history
 
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All Arab people which you have nothing to do with.

Nothing to do with regimes, leaderships or rulers in power. It's about not tolerating terrorists and hooligans which is something that 95% of all inhabitants of Al-Awamiyyah don't do either. They are happy that those terrorists have been dealt with.

No support of any Taliban (which is a native movement and even today the most popular political movement in Afghanistan) other than acknowledging the ground realities. No such thing either. Every mosque built in the West has been approved by that country beforehand and is monitored by that country. Whatever a tiny, tiny, tiny minority (a few individuals) do afterwards is their problem and not the fault of any mosques. If that was the case millions of terrorists would be walking around in Europe which is not the case. They are limited to a few 100 people at most a few 1000 people out of a community of 30-40 million European Muslims. If simply attending a mosque can make you a terrorist you have had mental problems beforehand. Simple as that.

You can do whatever you want to. I just exposed this thread and your agenda here. Rest I don't care about as your views are irrelevant as a foreigner and ignorant and biased person.
Then what has saudi to with non-arab countries (both in west by funding of certain groups and mosques and ideology and the same in other non arab countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Indonesia etc.)

Bahrain had relatively the largest protests (by percentage of population) and also non-violent unlike in Syria and 'the wahabi uprising in Iraq in which 1500 soldiers were kidnapped and beheaded/shot.

UAE, Saudi Arabia were one of few countries in world who officialy recognized taliban as the government of Afghanistan.

The guardian:
Saudi Arabia boosting extremism in Europe, says former ambassador
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ng-extremism-in-europe-says-former-ambassador


With all these information we have all the rights to give our opinion about saudi policy.
 
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He is weird when moqtada al mangholi(al Sadr) visited al dub al dasher ( bin salman) he started to act like a radical Shia and said muqtada betrayed the Yemeni children and nimr al nimr even though he consider the iranian government as arab slave enemy of the iranian culture and history

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It's all about what I have mentioned in post 21 in this thread below.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/almo...-attempt-to-drive-residents-out.511666/page-2

BTW he is trying to turn this into a sectarian thing when there is no sectarian violence in KSA, history of civil wars or even widespread crime/instability other than this neighborhood in Al-Awamiyah and a few mountain villages close to the Yemeni border (due to ongoing war).

1 soldier making an unfortunate comment (walking on his own) is not going to change the ground realities. Just like similar comments (made in the heat of the moment) made by a few Iraqi soldiers recently, won't change the ground realities either.

No civilians were killed as no civilians were present in that neighborhood. They all left long before.

Those terrorists already killed a local 3 year old child and a Pakistani expat as described in post 2. This was in May. Since then there have been instances of further violence from those terrorists/hooligans.

Then what has saudi to with non-arab countries (both in west by funding of certain groups and mosques and ideology and the same in other non arab countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Indonesia etc.)

Bahrain had relatively the largest protests (by percentage of population) and also non-violent unlike in Syria and 'the wahabi uprising in Iraq in which 1500 soldiers were kidnapped and beheaded/shot.

UAE, Saudi Arabia were one of few countries in world who officialy recognized taliban as the government of Afghanistan.

The guardian:
Saudi Arabia boosting extremism in Europe, says former ambassador
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ng-extremism-in-europe-says-former-ambassador


With all these information we have all the rights to give our opinion about saudi policy.

A lot. There are 20 million Arabs in Europe and the Arab world is a direct neighbor of Europe. In fact Europe's largest neighbor by far. Ancient historical ties as well. Almost a 1000 year old direct Arab presence too in most of Southern Europe.

In Indonesia there is a 5 million big Arab-Indonesian community from mainly Yemen and Hijaz. Cultural, religious, linguistic, cuisine and long historical ties dating back millennia due to trade. Saudi Arabians of Indonesian/South East Asian origin are also one of the largest expat communities and 100.000's of Hijazis (citizens) have partial South East Asian ancestry.

As for Afghanistan and Pakistan (South Asia as a whole) the ties are 5000 + years old and similarly deep on many fronts.

Trade and cultural links between ancient India and Arabia date back to third millennium BC.[1]

  1. Heptulla, Nejma. Indo-West Asian relations: the Nehru era. Allied Publishers, 1991. ISBN 9788170233404.

Even more today where the same GCC hosts the largest expat communities of those countries and where 1000's upon 1000's of intermarriages have taken place just in the recent few years.

"Wahhabi" uprising.:lol: Are you drunk or under the influence of Iranian heroin?

So what? That is the ground reality of Afghanistan. It is a native Pashtun movement based on Pashtunwali before anything else. Which is why Taliban, here, almost 30 years after, still controls most of Afghanistan. BTW you are writing this on a Pakistani forum. I hope you understand the irony of this.

The Guardian. Great source. Funnily enough the governments of those countries do not agree with those nonsense theories. Not a single terrorist attack has been committed by a Saudi Arabian in Europe ever. Or the West for that matter outside of 15 9/11 hijackers (most of Yemeni origins) despite 1-2 millions of Saudi Arabian students in the West since the 1960's.
 
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He is weird when moqtada al mangholi(al Sadr) visited al dub al dasher ( bin salman) he started to act like a radical Shia and said muqtada betrayed the Yemeni children and nimr al nimr even though he consider the iranian government as arab slave enemy of the iranian culture and history
And as you witnessed I said the same about the smiling reformist Javad Zarif shaking hands with Salman. Many non-muslims even in west are attacking salafism, saudi policies in Yemen. I don't think they are acting like radical shia or doing it because of their interest in shiism.
 
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He is weird when moqtada al mangholi(al Sadr) visited al dub al dasher ( bin salman) he started to act like a radical Shia and said muqtada betrayed the Yemeni children and nimr al nimr even though he consider the iranian government as arab slave enemy of the iranian culture and history
why al dub al dasher nickname
 
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why al dub al dasher nickname

Saudi Arabian satire/comedy. Reference to his weight but I don't think that he is that fat. A bit overweight maybe but I think he just has a strong built from nature. No tiny hands like The Donald, this is for sure.

Even Putin is impressed which is a big thing.



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BTW his grandfather (Ibn Saud) was almost 2 meter tall.

He was a heavy man standing between 1.93 m (6 ft 4 in)[38][39] and 1.98 m (6 ft 6 in),[40]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Saud

Najdis tend to be taller than most people in the Middle East I have noticed.
 
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