Saudi preacher says Women 'provoke men to rape and harass them'.

[Divergent]

And somehow that should justify the abhorrent behavior of men?

NO!! Women are the other sex of Homo sapiens, they are human beings. They are NOT the requirements of men!!!

By that logic, Nuns don't get sexually assaulted? Raped?

Morality is NOT subjective or relative to something else! One either has Morals or does not! its absolute!

Can someone give this guy's comment a positive rating please.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

The Mullah like usual is not articulate enough to express the real essence.

Bottom line is, why dress up as whore and give the preying eyes all the wrong vibes and urges? Men are aggressive and will take the bite, there was only one Joseph (AS) who resisted the temptation. Those commit this crime must be punished but at the same time, women kind need to realize where they are heading as well.

Woman is the number one temptation for man, even Quran mentioned it.

"Alluring for all people/mankind are the love of charms: women, children, gold and silver treasures piled up high, horses with fine markings, livestock and farmland, these may be the joys of this life - but Allah has the best place to return to". (Qur'an 3:14)

Hence the dress code and general personality of modesty in Islam.



On a lighter note:

 

[Cherokee]

@WebMaster we need to combat such nonsense here. I can not even think how worse are our less educated brethren's if educated ones are such twunts. At the end of the day its your choice how you wanna run forum tho....

 

[El Sidd]

This man is about to lose his job apparently lol

But the statement itself should be considered the Amish version of Islam not Islam itself.

Why the hell Muslims feel the need to defend Islam based on someones personal opinion?

Like this has to be the dumbest thing to do in the world.

@Divergent you could have been more creative with your title Aqua

 

[django]

What a sick mentality this guy have even women fully covered have been raped even little kids how they "provoke" men you psycho? it's a mental problem which can be solved by cutting off the "tool". Sick and disgusting to see justifications for this here can't believe this.

@EgyptianAmerican @django

Seems like an unhinged individual.Kudos

 

[Erroroverload]

It all depends on which environment you belong to. And if you are in an islamic country, to some extent he is right. If a woman is not wearing a revealing dress she has lesser chances of being a victim of harassment. And i m not advocating that men are completely innocent here but girls are also responsible for their behavior. why to wear such revealing clothes? is that just to satisfy yourself or something else.The first main culprit here is the woman who is wearing such revealing clothes......... I know -----------I know the so called liberals will now come and say.-------=== Everybody has freedom to wear anything, ---- you dont want to see----- just close your eyes,,, and other bla bla,,,

A persons freedom Ends were another persons freedom starts. If a girl has a freedom to wear anything, then why he is blaming that others are staring and teasing her.------ Hold on to that you liberals. ---- Im not saying or advocating that staring, teasing or raping a woman in revealing clothes is allowed or justifiable. But why she is showing her body on the first place. Is that act of her consider as seducing and arousing opposite sex feelings.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Dude you need help and a steady dose of medications. You are sick.

Ahahahaha.....

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

usual is not articulate enough to express the real essence.

Bottom line is, why dress up as whore and give the preying eyes all the wrong vibes and urges

Have you forgotten about this Verse?

“Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and protect their private parts. This is more purer for them. Indeed Allah is Well-Aware of what they do.” (Surah Nur: 30)


“And those who guard their private parts save from their wives – so there is no blame upon them. Then whoever seeks beyond that (which is lawful), they are the transgressors.” (Surah Al Mu’minoon : Verse 5 & 6)

“And as for him who feared to stand before his Lord and restrained his soul from lust, verily Jannah will be his abode.” (Surah Al Naazi’aat: verse 40 & 41)

Looks like our Imam hasn't been reading his Qu'ran.

 

[313ghazi]

Have you forgotten about this Verse?

“Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and protect their private parts. This is more purer for them. Indeed Allah is Well-Aware of what they do.” (Surah Nur: 30)


“And those who guard their private parts save from their wives – so there is no blame upon them. Then whoever seeks beyond that (which is lawful), they are the transgressors.” (Surah Al Mu’minoon : Verse 5 & 6)

“And as for him who feared to stand before his Lord and restrained his soul from lust, verily Jannah will be his abode.” (Surah Al Naazi’aat: verse 40 & 41)

Looks like our Imam hasn't been reading his Qu'ran.

Don't you know quran only applies to women and Kafir. Men can do what they want...

It sickens me reading some of these jahil responses. It's as if a woman in purdah has never been raped!

 

[Mav3rick]

Brother its not that relative if you discard the recent western socio-cultural chances promoted by ideas such feminism . If you just go back 60-70 years, western societies frowned upon women who dressed immodestly or flirted with strangers. It was beneath the stature of respectable middle class family to even conceive of extramarital affair and such acts were considered and shameful and undignified to the family. Islamic social ethics and morality perfectly syncs with traditional values & beliefs of all civilizations whether eastern or western with regards to acceptable sexual norms & gender behavior.

I agree 100%.

I think of myself as a conservative, possibly due to my inclination towards religion. At the same time, women in my household, who are completely independent, highly educated and mature, share the ideas we men have about morality and shame. In general, I have seen women of our society to be conscious and protective of her morality be it verbal, physical or emotional. But the brainwashing of the teen population by the electronic media is just mind boggling.

And somehow that should justify the abhorrent behavior of men?

No! There can be no justification when a man behaves immorally......that is unless the woman dresses to attract gazes, appreciation and immoral advances. Because if that is her will and intention, she will get exactly that. On the contrary, a pious woman, a moral woman would react to such a phenomenon and will adapt accordingly.

NO!! Women are the other sex of Homo sapiens, they are human beings. They are NOT the requirements of men!!!

They are the MOST fundamental requirement, after food. That they are humans does not absolve their necessity or requirement. And if the current trend of ratio in population continues in favor of men where there are less women to each man then our fights, our battles and our wars will once again be fought for women. The only person who can deny this, because of inability to understand it is a person who just hasn't woken up to the reality.

By that logic, Nuns don't get sexually assaulted? Raped?

They could be, but the number of cases would be relatively low.

Morality is NOT subjective or relative to something else! One either has Morals or does not! its absolute!

A person in US/UK has different morals to a person in Europe, similarly people in Africa or Asia would have different morals. To me the definition of a morally dressed woman would be different to a person in some other region. It is subjective and relative.

Perhaps it is now time to let the adults talk?

Dude you need help and a steady dose of medications. You are sick.

What a nonsense response.

 

[El Sidd]

 

[TheLahoriGuy]

I mean you can't blame him, ankles these days :O.

 

[War Thunder]

Mind explaining why others who don't rape aren't infected by this so called "disease". You justification of rape is awful.

Not all men are equal and not all men are controlled by their lusts instead of them controlling lusts. But the weak and lustful men are easy prey for the sexual onslaught of a system that has been put in place to lure them in.

What's the difference between men who rape women by physical means and those who rape them by emotional means? Be that emotional raping happen in a marriage or relationship or by leading someone into an emotional quagmire just to use them for own lustful desires, be it physical needs or emotional?
Both are a shame in the name of men, and there happen to be a great number of such men roaming around.
Same breed who feel insecure by the intellect of their wives and seek to control them to feel manly.

What will happen if you put alcohol in front of an alcohol addict? Or smoke in the front of a smoker?
So in the same way when you have a system that encourages sexuality and encourages women to keep losing clothes covering them up, then what do you expect from the lesser men who are enslaved by their own lusts and addictions?




Anyway, it's been 1400 years till enlightenment came down to humanity and it's sad we are still living in dark ages and ignorance, and encouraging savagery by de clothing women just like the savage tribes you will find in a jungle. Why is God's logic too hard to understand, or is it too much for our puny little minds to comprehend?

Please watch this video and understand the wisdom and logic behind what God wants and why

 

[Vapnope]

Not all men are equal and not all men are controlled by their lusts instead of them controlling lusts. But the weak and lustful men are easy prey for the sexual onslaught of a system that has been put in place to lure them in.

The people who cannot control their lust are the ones responsible no one else should be blamed. Period
Quranic verse commands men to lower their gaze irrespective of women's attire. Period

 

[War Thunder]

The people who cannot control their lust are the ones responsible no one else should be blamed. Period
Quranic verse commands men to lower their gaze irrespective of women's attire. Period

Quranic verses also command women to dress properly. And if lesser women will dress inappropriately, they will become victims of lesser men.

simple logic, isn;t it?
So if a woman leaves her home dressed inappropriately and with all the makeup and what not to attract lesser men, because of course better men will keep their gaze lower. Then is she not inviting those "lesser men" to make her a victim, be it victimizing by harassing, or staring, and so on?


A woman who understands her own respectful status and her own sacred value, and understands she is not the flesh but the one underneath. Will she be interested in showing off to lustful men? Is it not only the lesser women who are too hungry for attention towards their physical self-are the ones who will dress inappropriately?

The people who cannot control their lust are the ones responsible no one else should be blamed. Period
Quranic verse commands men to lower their gaze irrespective of women's attire. Period

Please try and understand the wisdom behind these lines and perhaps you will get closer to the wisdom of God behind things, and perhaps the perspective of this preacher.

"I said to my rose-cheeked lovely, “O you with bud-like mouth,
Why keep hiding your face, like flirting girls?”
She laughed and said,
“Unlike the beauties of your world,
In the veil I’m seen, but without it I’m hidden."