Saudi Arabian Air, Land, Naval Forces & SANG

[Doritos11]

^^^ are you trying to hide your miserable failure or what

here is the video of the Saudi pilot shooting down 2 iraqi jets .... enjoy...

Correcting information is not hiding.
Congratz with ur achievement, maybe we still start a saudi-iraq troll war here later, not now we already done that recently.

 

[F-16IN]

Correcting information is not hiding.
Congratz with ur achievement, maybe we still start a saudi-iraq troll war here later, not now we already done that recently.

due just chill. i know your country is good friend of u.s.a.

 

[Doritos11]

due just chill. i know your country is good friend of u.s.a.

But I am calm

 

[Arabian Legend]

Correcting information is not hiding.
Congratz with ur achievement, maybe we still start a saudi-iraq troll war here later, not now we already done that recently.

Lol what Information, can't you see the video prove you otherwise...

 

[Doritos11]

Lol what Information, can't you see the video prove you otherwise...

Originally Posted by Frogman
Their last air to air engagement if i recall correctly was in 1991 where one F-15 splashed two Iraqi Mig-29s. The Saudi air force may also have had reconnaissance and CAS roles in defeating a rather limited Houthi and Alqaeda linked insurgency.

Originally Posted by Doritos11
No,this is wrong information.

Air engagements of the Gulf War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Iraqi Air Force attempted to mount a rare offensive bombing operation and loaded two F1s with incendiary bombs. The Royal Saudi Air Force sent up two F-15Cs to get the bombers. One of the F-15s maneuvered behind the F1s and took them both down with AIM-9 missiles.

This is the same as firing on 2 737s with an AIM 9 Sidewinder from behind only the aircraft were F1 mirages.. not worth to be called real combat experience or a dogfight, the iraqi fighters had no air to air missiles on those 2 F1s.

 

[Arabian Legend]

Twuaiq, saudi made vehicle.

 

[Frogman]

I remember them being MIG-29s. I could be wrong and i can admit it.

 

[Frogman]

This is the same as firing on 2 737s with an AIM 9 Sidewinder from behind only the aircraft were F1 mirages.. not worth to be called real combat experience or a dogfight, the iraqi fighters had no air to air missiles on those 2 F1s.

I must disagree with you here. Those Mirages were still capable of taking evasive action or dumping flares and try to get out of the engagement.

 

[Arabian Legend]

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[Mosamania]

Originally Posted by Frogman
Their last air to air engagement if i recall correctly was in 1991 where one F-15 splashed two Iraqi Mig-29s. The Saudi air force may also have had reconnaissance and CAS roles in defeating a rather limited Houthi and Alqaeda linked insurgency.

Originally Posted by Doritos11
No,this is wrong information.

Air engagements of the Gulf War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Iraqi Air Force attempted to mount a rare offensive bombing operation and loaded two F1s with incendiary bombs. The Royal Saudi Air Force sent up two F-15Cs to get the bombers. One of the F-15s maneuvered behind the F1s and took them both down with AIM-9 missiles.

This is the same as firing on 2 737s with an AIM 9 Sidewinder from behind only the aircraft were F1 mirages.. not worth to be called real combat experience or a dogfight, the iraqi fighters had no air to air missiles on those 2 F1s.

Actually, it is routine that not a single aircraft goes on a sortie without having at least 2 WVR missiles for self defense, sometimes it even has 2 BVR missiles for self defense, this is somewhat of a rule of law in all air forces that unless it is a bomber not a single Aircraft takes off from the ground without having some fighting capability. Here let me show you:

Even though this F-16 is bombing in Afghanistan against Taliban, a group that doesn't even operate a kite, they are still loaded with 2 Air-air missiles, here let me show you again:

Look this is a mirage that is also carrying out CAS operations in Afghanistan, But it still loaded with 2 A-A missiles:

You see those F1s most certainly have had a certain degree of A-A capability, And if those Iraqi pilots were accomplished pilots they would dispense of the load and start carrying out an Air engagement protocol.

 

[Doritos11]

You see those F1s most certainly have had a certain degree of A-A capability, And if those Iraqi pilots were accomplished pilots they would dispense of the load and start carrying out an Air engagement protocol.

Only that the IQAF never followed international routines of the air force, many Iraqi pilots had no ejecting seats for example.
Even if they had AA capability onboard, it is quite hard to take on F15 fighters led by a US awacs E3 in full enemy airspace were hundreds of coalition fighters, bombers, AWACS and anti-radar planes were present.

The fact that they were taken down by AIM 9 close range missiles also tells something, why did they not use AIM 120 ? Usually when enemy fighters are spotted AIM 120 are used cause they assume that these fighter jets can retaliate.
Maybe their radars were blinded by US aircraft.

 

[Mosamania]

Only that the IQAF never followed international routines of the air force, many Iraqi pilots had no ejecting seats for example.
Even if they had AA capability onboard, it is quite hard to take on F15 fighters led by a US awacs E3 in full enemy airspace were hundreds of coalition fighters, bombers, AWACS and anti-radar planes were present.

The fact that they were taken down by AIM 9 close range missiles also tells something, why did they not use AIM 120 ? Usually when enemy fighters are spotted AIM 120 are used cause they assume that these fighter jets can retaliate.
Maybe their radars were blinded by US aircraft.

Then it is not our fault that IqAF didn't follow international routines and protocols, which pretty much explains the whole air war result of 91, And you are correct it is had to take on F-15s with AWACs, which means we have a formidable Air Force in our own right, And the Mirages were taken down by Aim-9s instead of Aim-120s is because since the air activity was high at the time visual confirmations were needed, the IFF were not as advanced as they are today.

 

[Doritos11]

Then it is not our fault that IqAF didn't follow international routines and protocols, which pretty much explains the whole air war result of 91, And you are correct it is had to take on F-15s with AWACs, which means we have a formidable Air Force in our own right, And the Mirages were taken down by Aim-9s instead of Aim-120s is because since the air activity was high at the time visual confirmations were needed, the IFF were not as advanced as they are today.

True for most part, though the air war result of 1991 has nothing to do with that.
No air force in the world can take up against the USAF, not mentioning all other NATO forces that were among them.
Though the results would be different if the coalition forces were not there..

 

[Mosamania]

True for most part, though the air war result of 1991 has nothing to do with that.
No air force in the world can take up against the USAF, not mentioning all other NATO forces that were among them.
Though the results would be different if the coalition forces were not there..

Iraq invaded Kuwait, Saudi Arabia gave it a deadline to get out or call on the UN for help, Deadline is up, Saudi Arabia along with other GCC countries made it formal in the UN. The UNSC responded.

This is completely within international law protocols, in fact the deadline to get out of Kuwait was something extra from KSA to Iraq that it might come to its senses. Do you see anything wrong with the course which Saudi Arabia took to resolve this crisis?

 

[Doritos11]

Iraq invaded Kuwait, Saudi Arabia gave it a deadline to get out or call on the UN for help, Deadline is up, Saudi Arabia along with other GCC countries made it formal in the UN. The UNSC responded.

This is completely within international law protocols, in fact the deadline to get out of Kuwait was something extra from KSA to Iraq that it might come to its senses. Do you see anything wrong with the course which Saudi Arabia took to resolve this crisis?

I am talking about military capabilities only here not poltics.