Saudi Arabia wanted to buy Pakistani submarines

[Bubblegum Crisis]

Storm Shadow / SCALP EG (comparable to the TAURUS KEPD 350)

Function: Cruise missile

Scope: + 250 km officially (unofficially France and the UK have made the calculation provided in the missile's range at sea level, instead of the profile of high altitude under more effective and the missile actually follows . He actually providing a range of over 300 miles / 500 km)

Guidance System: Inertial, GPS, TERPROM. Terminal guidance using the infrared image.

Unit price: US $ 1 million 210

Note: Saudi Arabia has already ordered for a lump sum of 1.8 billion US dollar.

Paveway IV precision guided weapons

See old Link “Saudi Typhoons latest news”:http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-forum/172534-saudi-typhoons-latest-news.html

 

[Zarvan]

It was Pakistan's first attempt to develop-manufacture incorporate highly technological submarines, It does take time. Those are submarines not paper boats!

Europe-US would sell it but at a huge cost not capable enough. Second Strike must not become an option for saudi Navy.

saudi navy might buy submarines in the future possibly british or french with capabilities that cloudbe restricted in nature that won't harm israel even though israel-saudi have excellent backdoor relations.

Sir no country is stupid enough to buy those weapons which it can't use against their enemies this is a theory of bunch of jokers in the world who know nothing about Military

 

[The SC]

One question: how many of these 'muslim countries' have helped Pakistan in recent, turbulent times?

None of your business, boddy, Why do you want anyone else to know? and please do not try to be such an ignorant.

 

[The SC]

this is a joke

you shouldnt laugh, not many countries make submarine

These subs are quite dangerous for any ship in their area, we are talking about torpedoes they carry like shikval (Hout), and for being very stealthy in shallow waters, they have proved to be able to get into deep sea too with their latest escort voyage to Southeastern Asia, they have capabilities you do not know of, at least in the Persian-Arabic Gulf.

 

[Kompromat]

people here still wondering why don't u buy from pakistan. why u shopping overseas but not pakistan.
pakistan should have passed the deal under the table.

Pakistan doesn't have patent rights for Augosta nor we have a 100% TOT. We could only pass what we build ourselves. Lastly, the Augostas can launch a nuclear strike which would piss Americans beyond limits. For the sake of argument if Augostas are sold to the RSAN, you still would be dependant on MESMA for AIP module. Its not a winner!

RSAN is getting Type-212 family of subs and they will serve you very well.

 

[The SC]

That's not the point of your post. Such positives could be developed even further without discriminating, or giving priority on a religious-base. Africa is one example that sticks out like a sore spot.

You seem to want to hail the Sauds and other Dynasties of the Arabian World, based on the fact they're muslim. What have they done for Pakistan? They are simply looking out for their own interests. Neither is Saudi Arabia 'Islamic' in the least in terms of its ruling set up. One dynasty should not be permitted to monopolize the holy places of a religion for its own, twisted political purpose -- where was this so called epitomy of goodness and all that is Islam when the Gaza Strip was reduced to rubble by Israel? And why, oh why, do they choose to instigate a ruckus with Iran (or vice versa, Iran's not exactly a role model either) based on racial grounds?

That is the only place of the Muslim world who needs the most and best stability. Would you rather see instability and upheaval in our holiest land? that is what multi-political parties will do if they were permitted, since some of them will certainly have foreign assistance just for that purpose. As you can imagine, many non -Muslims will be more than happy to see that, I hope you are not one of them. I am not defending anyone here but logic and pragmatism.

Pakistan doesn't have patent rights for Augosta nor we have a 100% TOT. We could only pass what we build ourselves. Lastly, the Augostas can launch a nuclear strike which would piss Americans beyond limits. For the sake of argument if Augostas are sold to the RSAN, you still would be dependant on MESMA for AIP module. Its not a winner!

RSAN is getting Type-212 family of subs and they will serve you very well.

When people talk about a nuclear capable submarine, they are talking about the missiles it carries, and these ones could be nuclear tipped or not, this is why the American intervention is not credible.
Saudi might buy them for general training, since they are looking forward to purchase some German subs.

 

[Kompromat]

When people talk about a nuclear capable submarine, they are talking about the missiles it carries, and these ones could be nuclear tipped or not, this is why the American intervention is not credible.
Saudi might buy them for general training, since they are looking forward to purchase some German subs.

How would Americans VALIDATE that we haven't sold RSAN a sub that can launch a nuclear strike on the 'holy land' from the Red Sea? - All of the Republicans will go on a hunger strike on the congress floor. But hey, we are getting six more subs that can do, precisely the same thing with a ferry range of 10,000km - who needs ICBMs

@Yzd Khalifa | @Mosamania | @Arabian Legend

 

[Indus Falcon]

These subs are quite dangerous for any ship in their area, we are talking about torpedoes they carry like shikval (Hout), and for being very stealthy in shallow waters, they have proved to be able to get into deep sea too with their latest escort voyage to Southeastern Asia, they have capabilities you do not know of, at least in the Persian-Arabic Gulf.

Stealthy???? Sorry mate, they are as stealthy as a tin tub with an outboard motor!

 

[The SC]

Stealthy???? Sorry mate, they are as stealthy as a tin tub with an outboard motor!

These subs can lay under water in total silence, waiting for anything moving with any bad intentions and destroy it with its torpedoes, they are far from your description, you can read about their capabilities if you do some search on the NK yono class, but these ones are still much more sophisticated. That is what I know from previous searchs.
I do not know about what you found. Can you please share some technical information to support your claim?

 

[Indus Falcon]

These subs can lay under water in total silence, waiting for anything moving with any bad intentions and destroy it with its torpedoes, they are far from your description, you can read about their capabilities if you do some search on the NK yono class, but these ones are still much more sophisticated. That is what I know from previous searchs.
I do not know about what you found. Can you please share some technical information to support your claim?

I got my info from people who were laughing their behinds of, after repeatedly picking it up loitering around. On one occasion they even recorded Iranian sailors discussing a club level football match when it was sitting 'quietly' at the bottom near the Straits of Hormuz.

 

[The SC]

I got my info from people who were laughing their behinds of, after repeatedly picking it up loitering around. On one occasion they even recorded Iranian sailors discussing a club level football match when it was sitting 'quietly' at the bottom near the Straits of Hormuz.

I do undestand your sarcasm, it does not make them less efficient. everyone can pick them up on the surface or even underwater in peace time, but not when they are sitting still, you can bet the behinds of those people laughing them out on it.

 

[Indus Falcon]

I do undestand your sarcasm, it does not make them less efficient. everyone can pick them up on the surface or even underwater in peace time, but not when they are sitting still, you can bet the behinds of those people laughing them out on it.

You are entitled to your opinion. No doubting that!

 

[The SC]

I got my info from people who were laughing their behinds of, after repeatedly picking it up loitering around. On one occasion they even recorded Iranian sailors discussing a club level football match when it was sitting 'quietly' at the bottom near the Straits of Hormuz.

Gulf Navies Seek Solutions to Iran Midget Sub Threat

“Anti-submarine operations are causing a real challenge to our units in the Arabian Gulf waters due to the small subs that are being used in shallow waters, which creates a challenge for sonar systems to detect them,” Musharrakh told the Gulf Naval Commanders Conference here Nov. 6. “Furthermore, the merchant traffic creates clutter and noise that diminishes the capability of submersible devices to spot and helps the mini subs to operate without being spotted.”

Gulf Navies Seek Solutions to Iran Midget Sub Threat | Defense News | defensenews.com

 

[Indus Falcon]

Gulf Navies Seek Solutions to Iran Midget Sub Threat

“Anti-submarine operations are causing a real challenge to our units in the Arabian Gulf waters due to the small subs that are being used in shallow waters, which creates a challenge for sonar systems to detect them,” Musharrakh told the Gulf Naval Commanders Conference here Nov. 6. “Furthermore, the merchant traffic creates clutter and noise that diminishes the capability of submersible devices to spot and helps the mini subs to operate without being spotted.”

Gulf Navies Seek Solutions to Iran Midget Sub Threat | Defense News | defensenews.com

You shouldn't believe everything you read!

 

[The SC]

Stephenson wonders: "Could an Iranian midget sub penetrate an American harbor?" If so, it could present a real danger, and in addition to getting their hands on several North Korean Yugos,Military experts describe the Iranian Ghadir as silent enough to elude the most advanced U.S. sonar. the Iranians have also developed a powerful midget submarine of their own.
Military experts describe the Iranian Ghadir as silent enough to elude the most advanced U.S. sonar.

Military experts describe the Iranian Ghadir as silent enough to elude the most advanced U.S. sonar.

@Abu Nasar

These are not my mere opinions, as you can see from the links I have provided as usual.