Saudi Arabia rules out mediation with Iran

[ebrahym]

there is so deja vu on it already read his statement again he said as long as Iran gives up hostile intentions in the past days even the US john kerry has advised them to open embassy in iranian perspective the ball is in arabian court but arabians consider that its time to end Iranian proxies forever and hence are building up pressure and no there is no war chances the western masters wont allow that as it will block their oil supplies so all we have to do is put our interest first and think and think and think before giving statements or best way is to avoid any statements we also have put the ball in their court thanks to brilliant NS and COAS diplomacy all we have to do is wait and watch

 

[T-72M1]

Saudis consider themselves a bigger more relevant power and voice in the Islamic world, hard to imagine them letting Pakistan or any other state mediate. It'll have to be the US, Russia and China or the UNSC to step in if all out war becomes imminent.

 

[Zibago]

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You know what? They are very smart in their benefits. They have drawn the lines for their hate towards each others. They can't afford it--- all the way to the end. They will fight the proxy wars and will never go on one-&-one war and fight on their own. Yeah if it ever happens, Pakistan has to go with KSA. There's no other option.

Saudi is giving very hawkish vibes so a war or war like situation cannot be ruled out

 

[ebrahym]

Saudis consider themselves a bigger more relevant power and voice in the Islamic world, hard to imagine them letting Pakistan or any other state mediate. It'll have to be the US, Russia and China or the UNSC to step in if all out war becomes imminent.

the sources say that Saudis asked PAK to when their defence minister came you should go through that days news again and current tactics are just to force Tehran to drop proxies in yemen and syria and etc

war like situation cannot be ruled out

i dont think th westerns oil consumer will let it go that far as their oil supplies will be affected

 

[Zibago]

the sources say that Saudis asked PAK to when their defence minister came you should go through that days news again and current tactics are just to force Tehran to drop proxies in yemen and syria and etc


i dont think th westerns oil consumer will let it go that far as their oil supplies will be affected

USA is now importing oil from non mideast sources mostly so they wouldnt mind

 

[T-72M1]

the sources say that Saudis asked PAK to when their defence minister came you should go through that days news again and current tactics are just to force Tehran to drop proxies in yemen and syria and etc

so why is he denying it now ?

not sure about Yemen but as far as stopping Iran in Syria, impossible, Iran are in partnership with the Russians there, so apart from arming the jihadis, Sauds are powerless in Syria, even the US has backed off from the 'Assad must go' rhetoric.

 

[ebrahym]

USA is now importing oil from non mideast sources mostly so they wouldnt mind

last i read they are self sufficient in oil production but what about europe the US's so called allies?

so why is he denying it now ?

not sure about Yemen but as far as stopping Iran in Syria, impossible, Iran are in partnership with the Russians there, so apart from arming the jihadis, Sauds are powerless in Syria, even the US has backed off from the 'Assad must go' rhetoric.

first of all i have explained why they are denying in my first post and second of all saudis want assad to go and are backed by US and third of all they are a clear stake holders of syria and are backing the opposition

 

[Providence]

Iran and Saudis are like cats & dogs. They just can't get along with each other !

 

[The Eagle]

@MaarKhoor Thanks for the tagging.

As you know that i did share few of my analysis regarding growing tension between Iran & KSA. The fight is all over based upon same terminology that i shared in my thread. However, IMO Pakistan was not a declared Mediatotor in this situation nor invited. Pakistan did play her part to being an Islamic Country and as well as having diplomatic ties with both the parties. So also it is necessary for Pakistan as a Responsible country to try to calm down the current situation between these 2 parties. So we did our job well and we will be doing in future as our part to be played rest about their choices so they are independent whatever to chose but not to be playing as puppet. Both the parties have to understand the genuineness of facts. My advice for KSA if they want to check their power against West & US, just shut down the Oil refineries for half an hour and see them proxy creators begging to not to do so. Rest is history.

IMO, there wouldn't be any war. Pakistan is playing much better than people expected in such scenario. Just to avoid any pressure of oil lovers or intervention in Pakistan, this statement was made so the guns may not be pointed towards Pakistan for that brotherly efforts to eliminate such tension.

Pakistan Zindabad

 

[Moonlight]

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Saudi is giving very hawkish vibes so a war or war like situation cannot be ruled out

Just proxy wars---they will fight.

 

[VCheng]

USA is now importing oil from non mideast sources mostly so they wouldnt mind

USA is an oil exporter, Sir.

 

[krash]

USA is an oil exporter, Sir.

The US has always been and still remains a net importer of oil. The imports were dropping but now have begun to rise again.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_epc0_im0_mbbl_m.htm

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_epc0_im0_mbbl_a.htm

http://www.wsj.com/articles/after-years-of-decline-u-s-oil-imports-rise-1445851800

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2015/04/08/why-the-u-s-keeps-importing-so-much-oil/

http://www.zepol.com/blog/post/2015/6/12/big-changes-in-oil-imports-2015-infographic.aspx

 

[VCheng]

The US has always been and still remains a net importer of oil. The imports were dropping but now have begun to rise again.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_epc0_im0_mbbl_m.htm

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_epc0_im0_mbbl_a.htm

http://www.wsj.com/articles/after-years-of-decline-u-s-oil-imports-rise-1445851800

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2015/04/08/why-the-u-s-keeps-importing-so-much-oil/

http://www.zepol.com/blog/post/2015/6/12/big-changes-in-oil-imports-2015-infographic.aspx

USA has become a net exporter, and even lifted a long standing ban:

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/2015/12/31/usa-oil-exporter-first-time-40-years/78161166/

 

[The Sandman]

We've done our part now do what ever you two want to do

 

[krash]

USA has become a net exporter, and even lifted a long standing ban:

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/2015/12/31/usa-oil-exporter-first-time-40-years/78161166/

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Correct me if I'm wrong but the graph you gave shows that US oil production surpassed the amount that it imported in 2014; it plots US oil production vs US oil imports. This, at best, means that the US is producing more than half of the oil that it needs (which still isn't true) while the rest it still imports. It clearly shows that the US is still importing 7 million bbl/day. How does that show in any way that the US is a net exporter of oil?

Now, if you had spent a little time reading the links that I gave you, you'd have a better idea of what is going on. In short,

After the mid 2000s the shale-oil boom flooded the US with domestic supplies of light crude which saw a gradual decline in oil imports for the country. The US produces mostly light, sweet crude oil (used less) and hence still has to import heavy crude oil (used most) from all over the world. The US not exporting its light crude before was not due to the domestic demand but due to a ban imposed on its export by the US gov after the 1970s oil embargoes. Due to this ban the US's crude supplies are nearing storage capacity in some regions with the excessive supply of light crude while it is still importing heavy crude oil in millions of barrels every day (shown in your graph too). This is one of the reasons that the US decided to lift the ban on its oil exports. Now add to all this the fact that the US oil imports have risen since your graph was made, there is less demand of light crude in the world and that almost every other oil producing country offers oil at a lot cheaper rates, US's position as a net oil importer isn't going to change any time in the foreseeable future.

But if you still don't want to read all that then I guess the figure bellow would be enough to settle the argument of the US being a net oil importer or exporter. These figures are from the time when US' oil production surpassed its imports i.e. 2014 or the period you showed on your graph. Today the US' net imports are even higher, mid 2015 they were at 8.2 million bbl/day.

http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=727&t=6