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As Saudi Arabia continues its multi-billion dollar international arms shopping spree, it appears to have begun evaluating Textron AirLand’s Scorpion light attack jet. The firm has previously said that the Kingdom is interested in the aircraft, but growing American political opposition to its brutal and protracted intervention in Yemen might slow or scuttle actual purchases.

Online flight tracking websites caught one of the Scorpion demonstrators, which presently carries the U.S. civil registration code N532TX, flying from the Royal Saudi Air Force’s King Faisal Air Base (KFAB), which is co-located with the Tabuk Regional Airport, earlier in November 2017. Though the two facilities share a larger complex, KFAB uses an entirely separate runway. Our friends at FlightGlobal, who noticed the jet zipping around in the desert, reported that Textron will almost certainly bring the twin engine jet to the annual Dubai Air Show in the neighboring United Arab Emirates, which starts on Nov. 12, 2017.

By Tyler RogowayPosted in THE WAR ZONE
“The capability of what Scorpion can do makes it a very viable product for their [the Saudis] requirements,” Scott Donnelly, Textron’s CEO, said during a conference call with reporters in July 2017. Any deal was “still in its formative stages, I would say," he added, stressing that there were no formal arrangements at that time.

But the Saudis are definitely in the market for an aircraft that meets Scorpion’s description. During U.S. President Donald Trump’s visit to the Kingdom in May 2017, the two countries agreed, at least in principle, to $110 billion in arms deals for the Saudi Arabian military.

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Textron AirLand's Scorpion demonstrator N532TX.

The arrangements included a planned $2 billion for a fleet of “light close air support” planes. We don’t know what the exact requirements for these aircraft might be or how many aircraft in total the Saudis would be looking to buy in total.

The proposed purchase was one a number of so-called Memorandums of Intent (MOI), which are offers the U.S. government makes in response to an ally’s expressed interest in certain “potential future defense capabilities.” The deals are not final and would still need final approval from Congress and the State Department.

Textron is undoubtedly eager to pitch the Scorpion to the Saudis, as well. The company first began work on the aircraft in 2012 and flew the prototype for the first time in December 2013, but it is still looking for a launch customer after nearly three years.

The U.S. Air Force had evaluated the aircraft as part of its light attack experiment, commonly known as OA-X, which ended on Aug. 30, 2017. However, the service made it clear that it did not meet the criteria to proceed to a possible second stage of that project, which has so far failed to materialize anyways.


Textron says the plane, which it funded as a private venture, is both cheap to operate and maintain thanks to the use of composite materials, commercial-of-the-shelf components, and a “plug and play” modular design that would allow a customer to readily customize the configuration to their needs and install upgraded avionics and other systems in the future. A pair of readily available Honeywell TFE731 turbofans, more commonly found on commercial business jets, powers the aircraft, as well.

Scorpion is also significantly larger and heavier than many potential competitors, especially single engine turboprops.These include Textron’s own AT-6 Wolverine and the ever popular Embraer Super Tucano, as well as an expanding field of even lighter single engine designs derived from crop dusting aircraft.

What this means, though, is that the jet can also has a relatively large, reconfigurable mission bay that could accommodate still and video cameras, radar and laser imaging equipment, electronic warfare jammers, or other systems. The demonstration configuration also has a retractable sensor turret under the nose with electro-optical and infrared full-motion video cameras.

The Scoprion’s six underwing pylons can accommodate a variety of weapons, including precision guided bombs and missiles and gun pods. As of June 2017, Textron had already flown the aircraft with the GBU-12/B laser guided bomb and performed a live fire test involving the 70mm Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System II, or APKWS II, a laser guided rocket. The plans to make the aircraft compatible with the GPS-directed GBU-39/B Small Diameter Bomb(SDB) and Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) family, as well as the multi-mode Brimstone missile and GBU-53/B Small Diameter Bomb II (SDB II).

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A Scorpion prototype fires an APKWS II laser guided rocket.

A Saudi Scorpion with a targeting sensor package and armed with precision guided munitions would be an ideal, low-cost option for its ongoing operations over Yemen, where it is battling Iranian-backed Houthi rebels and their allies. At present, the Kingdom is using its high performance F-15S Eagle and Eurofighter Typhoon multi-role combat aircraft, along with older swing-wing Panavia Tornados, for strikes against the militants.

Unlike smaller light attack aircraft such as the AT-6 and Super Tucano, the Scorpion would carry more extensive self-protection options, making it a more viable alternative given the potential anti-aircraft threats in Yemen. While it is unclear just how capable the Houthis’ air defense capabilities are, they do have access to old Yemeni military stocks of SA-2 surface-to-air missiles – many of which they’ve turned into surface-to-surface weapons – and an apparently growing arsenal of shoulder-fired man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS).

https://twitter.com/lummideast/status/689902095080804352


In January 2016, rebel forces claimed to have shot down a U.S. drone with an SA-2, but this incident remains unconfirmed. In October 2017, the Houthis did shoot down a U.S. Air Force MQ-9 Reaper, apparently with a MANPADS.

The Saudis have lost nearly a dozen fixed wing aircraft and helicopters since the intervention began in 2015, but insist that these have all been the result of technical faults or other accidents. Most recently, a Royal Saudi Air Force Typhoon went down in Yemen in October 2017, with the Houthis claiming to have shot it down and the Saudis again denying this was the case. The Saudi-led coalition has also disputed that enemy action was responsible for the loss of Bahraini, Moroccan, UAE combat aircraft in the country or nearby over the course of the operation. A Jordanian F-16 crashed as well, but well within Saudi Arabia.



With an air or surface search radar, the Scorpion could also be useful for low-and-slow armed border patrols to guard against terrorists or criminals, including those employing small boats and drones. The aircraft already features a basic weather radar, but could likely accommodate various appropriately sized military units, including advanced pulse Doppler systems such as a member of Leornado’s Grifo family or the Elta EL/M-2032.

Saudi Arabia might particularly appreciate this additional capability, since the Houthis have conducted numerous cross border raids. On top of that, they have launched multiple attacks on coalition ships with anti-ship missiles and apparent explosive-filled remote control boats, begun laying deadly naval mines in the strategic Mandeb Strait connecting the Red Sea to the Gulf of Aden, and may be building a fleet of suicidal drones able attack air defense sites and other targets.

A Scorpion loaded with precision APKWS II rockets and automatic cannon pods would be a much more cost effective and flexible option to respond to those types of threats than higher performance aircraft and faster to respond than gunship helicopters or ground troops. And a fleet of the light attack aircraft could just help reduce the burden on the Royal Saudi Air Force’s higher performance aircraft or otherwise free them up for other missions, including standing watch against the country’s top regional rival Iran.

As interested as the Saudis and Textron might both be in the potential deal, and as useful as the aircraft might be in regards to the present conflict in and around Yemen, politics might ultimately get in the way. There have been steady accusations that the Saudi-led coalition has either conducted itself in general disregard for civilian casualties or actively targeted population centers in Houthi-controlled areas.

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A Royal Saudi Air Force F-15S, one of the country's aircraft that are presently flight missions over Yemen.

In the past, Saudi aircraft in particular appear to have deliberately destroyed medical facilities and other civilian infrastructure protected under international laws covering armed conflict. This has led to reports of mass starvation and horrifying cholera epidemic.

As such, members of Congress, Republics and Democrats alike, have become increasingly uncomfortable with U.S. military support for the campaign, which has included aerial refueling and logistics support and increased intelligence sharing. Earlier in November 2017, members of the House of Representatives appeared to have watered down a proposed non-binding resolution on the matter, removing a call to end all U.S. military involvement in Yemen unrelated to the fight against Al Qaeda terrorists or “associated forces,” a definition that doesn’t presently cover the Houthis.

The House version of the annual Pentagon defense budget, known as the National Defense Authorization Act, also contains a similar provision. The Senate version of the bill does not have that clause, though, and legislators would have to reconcile the two before the final version could become law.

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The aftermath of an alleged Saudi air strike that killed civilians in Yemen.

The increasingly political nature of American support of the campaign could hold up arms sales to the Kingdom, though, including any purchases of Scorpion. Though the Trump administration has reversed course on restrictions President Barack Obama had put in place regarding military deals with the government in Riyadh, it appears to have been enough to send the Saudis looking for alternatives.

During King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud’s landmark visit to Moscow in October 2017, the monarch and his extensive retinue signed various agreements with their Russian counterparts, including outlining plans for possible arms deals. If the United States appears to be dragging its feet in future deals, the Kremlin could easily try and step in and offer an alternative.

The twin engine Yakovlev Yak-130 combat capable trainer would be one possible challenger to the Scorpion. The reported Saudi deals with Russia don't include any aircraft at present, but the Kremlin has been making inroads selling advanced combat jet to other traditional American allies in the Middle East, with various sales to Egypt and a possible deal in the works to deliver more than a dozen Su-35S Flanker-E fighter jets to the UAE.

Still, depending on how the test flights in Saudi Arabia go, Textron could arrive at the Dubai Air Show with an important announcement about the jet.

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$100 billions being handed to Trump to build up KSA military. Can only mean one thing. Saudia is planning to attak Israel to free Muslims Palestinians.
 
$100 billions being handed to Trump to build up KSA military. Can only mean one thing. Saudia is planning to attak Israel to free Muslims Palestinians.
both are American allies with shared security concerns and regional policies. KSA will never attack Israel but it may be Iran
 
$100 billions being handed to Trump to build up KSA military. Can only mean one thing. Saudia is planning to attak Israel to free Muslims Palestinians.

The Islamic Republic of Iran has presumably been trying to do that ever since 1979. It's been 38 years but I believe that they have been preparing an offensive ever since. Who knows, maybe they will eventually free the Palestinians in the year 2079?

Other Islamic republics like the Afghan and Pakistani ones seem less dedicated despite ample US aid past and present.



As for the topic, I am not sure if this would be the right choice? I don't expect the war in Yemen to go on for much longer seeing that KSA, the Arab coalition and the newly established/reformed Yemeni army is in control of almost 90% of Yemen and seeing that the role of the coalition is more of a supporting role (wisely) nowadays.

Unless of course such a purchase would have perspectives wider than just the Yemeni civil war. I am not sure about that but the decision makers will know.

Comments @Gomig-21 @EgyptianAmerican @The SC @Arabi etc.
 
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The Islamic Republic of Iran has presumably been trying to do that ever since 1979. It's been 38 years but I believe that they have been preparing an offensive ever since. Who knows, maybe they will eventually free the Palestinians in the year 2079?
Frankly the Iranian's are under seige by USA and Israel/West. If they can survive that I think that would be a miracle. Let alone free Palestine.

Afghanistan is a broken country because of 40 years of war. Pakistan has no oil and is financially crippled. The reason I mentioned KSA was simple. I recently read KSA has made over $100 billion defence contract with USA. I don't think Pakistan has bought $100 billion of fighters, tanks or defence products in it's entire 70 year history. So I was wondering what is KSA going to with that much defence purchase? Free Palestine and underline the "Arab" concept?
 
both are American allies with shared security concerns and regional policies. KSA will never attack Israel but it may be Iran

I have breaking news for you. Neither will Pakistan nor Iran. Nor Turkey. If I were to bet, I would bet on Arabs doing something like in the past. Others? Not so much. However war should only be the last option and I believe that the Palestinian-Israeli conflict can/will be solved politically eventually. Arab countries like KSA and Egypt are undergoing huge transformations (in particular KSA) and that will not be risked for a war against the West/USA because that is what Israel is an extension of.

We will let the "Islamic" Republic of Iran shot themselves more in the foot which they have been very good at doing while we will continue to progress on all fronts. MbS has been crystal clear about this very recently. I like this. Very much so.
 
both are American allies with shared security concerns and regional policies. KSA will never attack Israel but it may be Iran
Yes I know. What I have never understood is the biggest cheerleaders of Saudia Arabia in Pakistan are also the biggest chearleaders of the ummah concept and thereby harbour visceral hatred of Israel. How does this abject servility of KSA but utter hatred of Israel work? There is some crazy dissonance involved there.
 
I have breaking news for you. Neither will Pakistan nor Iran. Nor Turkey. If I were to bet, I would bet on Arabs doing something like in the past. Others? Not so much. However war should only be the last option and I believe that the Palestinian-Israeli conflict can/will be solved politically eventually. Arab countries like KSA and Egypt are undergoing huge transformations (in particular KSA) and that will not be risked for a war against the West/USA because that is what Israel is an extension of.

We will let the "Islamic" Republic of Iran shot themselves more in the foot which they have been very good at doing while we will continue to progress on all fronts. MbS has been crystal clear about this very recently. I like this. Very much so.
i agree to that
a non violent but smarter and long lasting solution is needed for middle eastern conflicts and Saudi crown prince has put things in motion I am liking his new approach and his idea of reforms.
 
$100 billions being handed to Trump to build up KSA military. Can only mean one thing. Saudia is planning to attak Israel to free Muslims Palestinians.

lol
 
Frankly the Iranian's are under seige by USA and Israel/West. If they can survive that I think that would be a miracle. Let alone free Palestine.

Afghanistan is a broken country because of 40 years of war. Pakistan has no oil and is financially crippled. The reason I mentioned KSA was simple. I recently read KSA has made over $100 billion defence contract with USA. I don't think Pakistan has bought $100 billion of fighters, tanks or defence products in it's entire 70 year history. So I was wondering what is KSA going to with that much defence purchase? Free Palestine and underline the "Arab" concept?

I don't care about that. Stupidity has its consequences. I have no love lost for the Mullah's of Iran.

Neither has KSA. Those were agreements in principle. Nothing has been signed. You know this, don't you?

BTW where were you when KSA signed deals with China and Russia?


Pakistan has been in the Western camp ever since the Cold War began. In fact Pakistan is a Western (British) construct more precisely. As is the military. Your elite are all Western-educated. Aligned to the West politically as well. You have received US aid. Probably (if I am not wrong) worth billions of dollars in total numbers over the years.

There is nothing wrong with that. However it makes your agenda rather pathetic.

KSA is not going to attack a nuclear-armed Israel because that means attacking the US/West. Is Pakistan going to attack the US?

Last time I checked you do not attack India despite them controlling almost all of Kashmir which you claim. Why not underline the "Pakistani" concept there?

You see, such trolling is tiring. I thought that you grew tired of such silly games but I guess that I was wrong.

i agree to that
a non violent but smarter and long lasting solution is needed for middle eastern conflicts and Saudi crown prince has put things in motion I am liking his new approach and his idea of reforms.

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been going on as long as the Pakistani-Indian dispute/conflict. There are no military solutions in either case. The reconciliation between Fatah and Hamas is a good step at creating a united Palestinian front. What the future will hold we will have to await but my theory is that demographics will undermine the goal of certain Israeli/Zionist hardliners and eventually the bankrollers of Israel (read West - mainly the US) will realize that land grabbing undermines the stability of the region and thus US interests. Israel too would gain a lot if they had cordial/normal relations with their Arab neighbors. Conflict does not really suit anybody other than hardliners.

There is a reason why more and more Israeli Jews (whether Ashkenazi or Arab/Mizrahi ones) are migrating out of Israel. It's not all roses and rivers of honey.
 
I have breaking news for you. Neither will Pakistan nor Iran. Nor Turkey. If I were to bet, I would bet on Arabs doing something like in the past. Others? Not so much.
No need to go on the attack, Mr.Saud. Irfan was merely stating that your country wouldn't attack Israel as both are US allies and have overlapping interests, highlighted by the fact that strong diplomatic backchannels almost certainly exist:
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...n-Prince-make-a-covert-visit-to-Israel-504777

Also, the only reason Arab states have done anything against Israel in the past was due to conflicts between them and Israel, whereas Pakistan and Turkey have not been in the same position. Anyway, many Pakistani pilots aided the Arab air forces during the Six-Day War.

It's highly doubtful that even in a diplomatic solution, Israel will cease their occupation of Palestine. Mohammad bin Salman is only trying to appease the US and the Israelis so they can support him in becoming king.
 
both are American allies with shared security concerns and regional policies. KSA will never attack Israel but it may be Iran

Let's be honest, as far new defense acquisitions are concerned, it's first time that Saudi is diversifying its defense reliance, which is most difficult for everyone to digest. Otherwise, there was never a problem, when Saudi used to buy exclusively American weapons during the rule of King Fahad.

Saudis will continue to buy F-15 because of very same reason, Pakistan is ever hunting for F-16.
Even for rest of the equipment most of world buy American weapons, even India is shifting to American suppliers on first available opportunity.

On the other hand, Iran is already shooting missiles at Saudi cities, mainly at Mecca.
Of course, you don't know about it so here are few incidents and they are very regular and the last one was in October 2017, where expat civilians were also among dead.
http://www.antaranews.com/en/news/112050/saudi-arabia-intercepts-missile-targeting-mecca-from-yemen
http://www.newsweek.com/mecca-missi...es-yemens-iran-backed-rebels-targeting-643342
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-yemen-rebel-missile-near-mecca-idUSKBN1AD0WD
http://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/st...ts-Houthi-ballistic-missile-launched-on-Mecca
Intercepting Iranian missiles would not be possible without American patriot missiles.

I believe that the Palestinian-Israeli conflict can/will be solved politically eventually.

Whenever there were attempts to resolve Palestinian conflict on table, Iran always give reason to Israel not to do so.
All credit of Israeli supremacy goes to Iran, and its cheer leaders in Pakistan... who hail terrorist organizations openly on social media and are ever ready to kill civilians and burn Pakistani infrastructure.
I still remember, when Turkey ship embarked to Israel with relief material. Iran woke up at same time and started with war rhetoric, which eventually hurt the relief efforts.

Now this thread although is related to a defence accusation but is started with malafied intent and we end up connecting Israel and Saudi, baselessly as usual.
Where as completely ignoring the ground reality, where both Israel and Iran are mutual cause of trouble in every country, where Muslims are in majority or even in minority.
 
and it comes from mouth of Saudi hater of Pakistani decent, who lives his life to please Iran and lives in UK by blaming Pakistan of genocide of Shia.
Says a guy who abandoned his land to the Hindus and then sought sanctuary amongst the Sindhi. People who give up their land and run away from Hindus have no right to lecture me.
 
Says a guy who abandoned his land to the Hindus and then sought sanctuary amongst the Sindhi. People who give up their land and run away from Hindus have no right to lecture me.

I lectured you only in your dreams... and even if I reply to your propaganda, driven by your sectarian bias, I'm well within my right.
You can complain about my lecture to your sectarian brothers in GHQ of IRG.

Of course my grand parents migrated from across the border, less than 40 k.m. but they were following the lead of Mr. Jinnah, whom today we call Quid e Azam. Migration is sunnah of prophet and my grand parents will have all the credit. At least they didn't lied about genocide.

Saudis are definitely in the market for an aircraft that meets Scorpion’s description.

Only this sentence have hurt so many sectarian behinds.... waooooo
 
Says a guy who abandoned his land to the Hindus and then sought sanctuary amongst the Sindhi. People who give up their land and run away from Hindus have no right to lecture me.
Are you insulting our forefathers and condemning the creation of Pakistan?
 
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