Saudi Arabia granted citizenship to 50'000 expats.

[waz]

Good grief the racism here, brothers you know better.....

 

[Yankee-stani]

Prince Bandar agrees. Hey boy .....

Where my Ferrari at boii

 

[Ritual]

Issay ketain hai dosray ko "lajawab" karna, you rightly pointed out the "hypocracy" of the quoted poster/post, in the same sentence he was saying that we should not look for inspiration from any country especially from Gulf Arabs but then in the next sentence was saying we should look for inspiration in Indonesia, yeh to lol ho gaya .

How was I hypocritical by saying we could emulate the political system of Indonesia? I’m not saying we should kneel at their feet and act like their rent-a-army. That is not the same as the ‘brotherhood’ of Gulf/Iran as some of our compatriots have done through the years.

 

[BATMAN]

How was I hypocritical by saying we could emulate the political system of Indonesia? I’m not saying we should kneel at their feet and act like their rent-a-army. That is not the same as the ‘brotherhood’ of Gulf/Iran as some of our compatriots have done through the years.

Now let the readers be the judge!

What's the background?

Once again, Iran and Gulf are not comparable examples.
One is like an open enemy and one is like savior.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Prince Bandar agrees. Hey boy .....

You do realize that this guy is half Ethiopian? Yet genetically he is probably more West Asian than you. Ethnic Saudi Arabian Arabs are genetically 100% Caucasian. Much closer genetically to West Asian populations and Southern Europeans populations than the average Pakistani as well.

As this graphic and every DNA test confirms. As well as geography.



If Arabs are "sandniggers" (contrary to actual science, DNA, history), what the hell does that make your lot? Also what is it with you and your chronic inferiority complex towards anything Arab?

In fact the average Saudi Arabian Arab (non-Saudi Arabian Afro-Arab - who are not ethnically Arabs) have less African ancestry in them than Levantine Arabs and practically all Arabs.


Less than freaking Syrians.

Just because some Arabs, once upon a time, hooked up (ever heard about the Arab slave trade that included Europeans, Turks, Blacks and everyone in between) with the millions of slaves from across the world (mainly African but practically every ethnicity) does not make Arabs even remotely related to Black Africans. Or a few 100.000 African pilgrims that ended up staying/living when KSA (the nation state) was invented and who were later given citizenship automatically. Among them some of Pakistani origins. Along with the other 100's (literally) nationalities descending from Muslim pilgrims.

Here is a DNA test from 2007. 7% of Saudi Arabians have a DEGREE of African DNA in them. That correspondents completely to the 5-10% of Afro-Arabs in KSA who once again are not ethnically Arab.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1810519/

The ethnic Arabs of us, are some of the most "pure" people out there with the longest traceable ancestries on the entire planet. For millennia "obsessed" with racial/tribal/clan purity.

Hence to date only seeing such DNA tests from Saudi Arabians in the region (West Asia) and nobody else.

100% West Asian.

Not only that the first "White people" and that particular skin mutations occurred in the Arab Near East. Among the Neolithic peoples of the Arab Near East. Saudi Arabians happen to be the closest related people to ancient Natufian mummies who founded the first Neolithic culture on the planet.

That recent DNA study proved that modern-day Saudi Arabians, Palestinians, Jordanians and Egyptians have the largest ancestral claim on the Neolithic civilizations that first appeared in Southern Levant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natufian_culture

A culture that existed from 12.5000 BC to 9.500 BC whose people are known to have built the first Neolithic settlements on the planet as well as made the first attempts at agriculture, organized included. It was also arguably the first sedentary culture of this size in the world as well.

Here are the DNA results from this year (2016)

https://plot.ly/~PortalAntropologiczny9cfa/1.embed?share_key=za9Lb3y1UX6nJRG9v4EXOL

Here is the entire report:

http://biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2016/06/16/059311.full.pdf

Lastly, unlike in your case, Arabs have zero inferiority complexes towards other people, including our European neighbors. Hence why Arabs have praised their beautiful olive skin for millennia in poems, songs, writings etc. No whitening creams etc. nonsense either. Can only talk for KSA. And the same Western lot are obsessed about Arab women.

EXACTLY! I AGREE..........Us Pakistanis have NOTHING in common with Arabs so I don't expect either to be empathetic towards one another. My comments were aimed at those Pakistanis who falsely believe their is a mythical "Ummah" were all Muslims regardless of race, are brothers and sisters. That is a false narrative I am trying to expose. It follows from this, that just as the Arabs have full relations with india, it's HIGH time that Pakistan has full diplomatic relations within Israel.

You can have full relations with Israel for all I care. Israel is another Arab country anyway. 70% of the population are Arab Jews or Palestinian Arabs.

The whole Muslim world is Arabized (completely, greatly, significantly or moderately) to begin with.

We should be giving citizenship to Arabs. They are the most important people to us and we have a closer relation to eachother than to Pakistanis. Turkey would be much more willing to give citizenship to Azerbaijan, and other Turkic nations than they would to Pakistan as well. Syrians integrate much better since they know the language, culture, and values of Arabs.

@Falcon29
@ArabianEmpires&Caliphates
@dani92

KSA should not be giving citizenships out to begin with. If KSA did that, we would be flooded by 100's of millions of people. There are 20+ Arab countries. Why should fellow Arabs be given Saudi Arabian citizenships if they have their own citizenship? To begin with, I believe that most if not all of the modern day Arab states should be abolished. We need 1-3 large Arab nations. Look at Arabia. If one united country, it would be a massive power.

I am not fan of the current modern-day borders in the Arab world. They are not natural.

As for expats in KSA, before they came to KSA, they were well aware of the rules. No promises were made to them. Let them flood other countries and expect citizenships and everything in said countries. There is only 1 Saudi Arabia in the world. If we had liberal citizenship laws, KSA as we know it, would no longer exist.

 

[Yankee-stani]

You do realize that this guy is half Ethiopian? Yet genetically he is probably more West Asian than you. Saudi Arabians are genetically 95% Caucasian. Much closer genetically to West Asian populations and Southern Europeans populations than the average Pakistani.

As this graphic and every DNA test confirms. As well as geography.



If Arabs are "sandniggers" (contrary to actual science, DNA, history), what the hell does that make your lot? Also what is it with you and your chronic inferiority complex towards Arabs?

In fact the average Saudi Arabian Arab (non-Saudi Arabian Afro-Arab - who are not ethnically Arabs) have less African ancestry in them than Levantine Arabs and practically all Arabs.


Less than freaking Syrians.

Just because some Arabs, once upon a time, hooked up with the millions of slaves from across the world (mainly African but practically every ethnicity) does not make Arabs even remotely related to Black Africans. Or a few 100.000 African pilgrims that ended up staying/living when KSA (the nation state) was invented and who were later given citizenship. Along with the other 100's (literally) nationalities descending from Muslim pilgrims.

Here is a DNA test from 2007. 7% of Saudi Arabians have a DEGREE of African DNA in them. That correspondents completely to the 5-10% of Afro-Arabs in KSA.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1810519/

The ethnic Arabs of us, are some of the most "pure" people out there with the longest traceable ancestries on the entire planet. For millennia "obsessed" with racial/tribal/clan purity.

Hence to date only seeing such DNA tests from Saudi Arabians in the region (West Asia) and nobody else.

100% West Asian.

Not only that the first "White people" and that particular skin mutations occurred in the Arab Near East. Among the Neolithic peoples of the Arab Near East. Saudi Arabians happen to be the closest related people to ancient Natufian mummies who founded the first Neolithic culture on the planet.

That recent DNA study proved that modern-day Saudi Arabians, Palestinians, Jordanians and Egyptians have the largest ancestral claim on the Neolithic civilizations that first appeared in Southern Levant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natufian_culture

A culture that existed from 12.5000 BC to 9.500 BC whose people are known to have built the first Neolithic settlements on the planet as well as made the first attempts at agriculture, organized included. It was also arguably the first sedentary culture of this size in the world as well.

Here are the DNA results from this year (2016)

https://plot.ly/~PortalAntropologiczny9cfa/1.embed?share_key=za9Lb3y1UX6nJRG9v4EXOL

Here is the entire report:

http://biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2016/06/16/059311.full.pdf

We wuz white and shietttt let's buy more weapons from those yanks and fast cars @Indus Pakistan

 

[Philip the Arab]

I have no desire to live or work in Saudi Arabia. I would rather live and work in Pakistan. At least I can understand the language and the food is somewhat familiar. And the people are nicer.

I don't think we want Indians here whatsoever.

Good grief the racism here, brothers you know better.....

Who is being racist? How?

 

[BATMAN]

We wuz white and shietttt let's buy more weapons from those yanks and fast cars @Indus Pakistan

You think Russian weapons are better?

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

We wuz white and shietttt let's buy more weapons from those yanks and fast cars @Indus Pakistan

You do realize, that unlike you, KSA was never a Western colony, and unlike you, we Arabs (from Arabia) used to rule modern-day Spain, Portugal, Southern France, Sicily, Southern Italy, Malta, Cyprus, Crete (Greece) etc. for centuries (some places even 800 years!) and influenced those societies and areas of Europe on every imaginable front? Even used to enslaveEuropeans. The same Europeans that some of your compatriots worship on PDF.

That or killing US/Western soldiers in Iraq next door.

We have been one of the most influential imperial people with the largest and most influential created empires of any ethnic group in the Muslim world. By far.

When we visit Europe, we don't have the same complexes like certain others seem to have.

We will buy whatever the **** we want to buy, you have a problem with that?

 

[Ritual]

The whole Muslim world is Arabized (completely, greatly, significantly or moderately) to begin with.

What is the meaning of being ‘Arabized’? Is it just because you follow Islam, does that make you Arabized?

 

[ARMalik]

https://lifeinsaudiarabia.net/blog/...UaZZTLq6yWNBlmgMfBGmpP9n_f1WWpUn2cfjqkZ73B_aw

also issued ID cards to 800'000 people.

18$ billion for Syrian refugees.

So, a whole thread on 'Saudi Generosity' for giving 'Citizenship' to a few hapless peasants? Dude, you are one hell of a Weirdo !

Not saying anything is wrong here, but if this is how things are measured then surely the US deserves a huge Monument for Recognizing its service to Humanity as it has given Citizenship to literally millions and millions of people from all over the world including millions of Muslims. Why all the US bashing here then?

 

[HannibalBarca]

What is the meaning of being ‘Arabized’? Is it just because you follow Islam, does that make you Arabized?

No. Arabs didn't create Islam.
And What we Call "Arabic Culture" is more a "Generic" Term used by Orientalist...

Since Arabs of Mecca/Medina and around didn't create, neither had what we know of "Arab Culture">

The most Appropriate Term will be "Culture of Consequence of Islam"

 

[Philip the Arab]

What is the meaning of being ‘Arabized’? Is it just because you follow Islam, does that make you Arabized?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_identity
Same way Hispanics have varying DNA yet have same or similar identity. You can be Black, White, Native American and still be Hispanic and same goes for Arab.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

What is the meaning of being ‘Arabized’? Is it just because you follow Islam, does that make you Arabized?

Linguistic, religious, ethnic influences aside from traditions and customs.

Most non-Arab Muslim nations have little to do with their pre-Islamic heritage. Largely thanks to Arabs.

When those areas of Europe that I wrote about, which were under Arab rule for centuries, some areas (Iberia) for almost 800 years, have been thoroughly influenced by Arab civilization on most fronts (even cuisine, music etc.), it is self-evident that the same is the case with the actual Muslim world.

Actually, I don't give a crap about those things, but since PDF (in recent years) have developed into a cesspool of anti-Arab inferiority complexes at full swing, anti-Arab nonsense and 100% ignorance about anything remotely Arab, I like to give such people a reality wakeup.

I have seen you write a few un-motivated and ignorant anti-Arab posts to you are probably part of the same group that my posts are aimed at.

In the real world, Arabian hospitality is world famous, and we could not care less about racial nonsense. If that was the case, we would not have so many diverse ethnic groups from practically every part of the world, living among us and part of us (fellow compatriots). Beginning with the Afro-Arab lot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_identity
Same way Hispanics have varying DNA yet have same or similar identity. You can be Black, White, Native American and still be Hispanic and same goes for Arab.

Speaking about Hispanics/Latin, 40 million of them are outright of Arab ancestry (one of the largest ethnic groups in Latin America) and rest of them (expect the indigenous lot and unmixed people of African origin) have a degree of Arab blood in them, due to Spanish/Portuguese blood. Hence why Arabs and Latin people tend to look alike at times. Spanish/Portuguese has 1000's of words of Arabic origin.

I don't think we want Indians here whatsoever.


Who is being racist? How?

We certainly don't want that. Once the current regimes in power are gone, they will too! The only reason, other than economy, why they are preferred over fellow Arabs, is due to Arab migrants/expats being a potentially political threat to the establishments. Nothing against Indians, but 95% of them in KSA, have little to no value. Anyway Vision 2030, will correct much of the last 40+ years of insanity. Just need to give it a bit of time.

 

[Crusher]

You do realize that this guy is half Ethiopian? Yet genetically he is probably more West Asian than you. Ethnic Saudi Arabian Arabs are genetically 100% Caucasian. Much closer genetically to West Asian populations and Southern Europeans populations than the average Pakistani as well.

As this graphic and every DNA test confirms. As well as geography.



If Arabs are "sandniggers" (contrary to actual science, DNA, history), what the hell does that make your lot? Also what is it with you and your chronic inferiority complex towards anything Arab?

In fact the average Saudi Arabian Arab (non-Saudi Arabian Afro-Arab - who are not ethnically Arabs) have less African ancestry in them than Levantine Arabs and practically all Arabs.


Less than freaking Syrians.

Just because some Arabs, once upon a time, hooked up (ever heard about the Arab slave trade that included Europeans, Turks, Blacks and everyone in between) with the millions of slaves from across the world (mainly African but practically every ethnicity) does not make Arabs even remotely related to Black Africans. Or a few 100.000 African pilgrims that ended up staying/living when KSA (the nation state) was invented and who were later given citizenship automatically. Among them some of Pakistani origins. Along with the other 100's (literally) nationalities descending from Muslim pilgrims.

Here is a DNA test from 2007. 7% of Saudi Arabians have a DEGREE of African DNA in them. That correspondents completely to the 5-10% of Afro-Arabs in KSA who once again are not ethnically Arab.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1810519/

The ethnic Arabs of us, are some of the most "pure" people out there with the longest traceable ancestries on the entire planet. For millennia "obsessed" with racial/tribal/clan purity.

Hence to date only seeing such DNA tests from Saudi Arabians in the region (West Asia) and nobody else.

100% West Asian.

Not only that the first "White people" and that particular skin mutations occurred in the Arab Near East. Among the Neolithic peoples of the Arab Near East. Saudi Arabians happen to be the closest related people to ancient Natufian mummies who founded the first Neolithic culture on the planet.

That recent DNA study proved that modern-day Saudi Arabians, Palestinians, Jordanians and Egyptians have the largest ancestral claim on the Neolithic civilizations that first appeared in Southern Levant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natufian_culture

A culture that existed from 12.5000 BC to 9.500 BC whose people are known to have built the first Neolithic settlements on the planet as well as made the first attempts at agriculture, organized included. It was also arguably the first sedentary culture of this size in the world as well.

Here are the DNA results from this year (2016)

https://plot.ly/~PortalAntropologiczny9cfa/1.embed?share_key=za9Lb3y1UX6nJRG9v4EXOL

Here is the entire report:

http://biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2016/06/16/059311.full.pdf

Lastly, unlike in your case, Arabs have zero inferiority complexes towards other people, including our European neighbors. Hence why Arabs have praised their beautiful olive skin for millennia in poems, songs, writings etc. No whitening creams etc. nonsense either. Can only talk for KSA. And the same Western lot are obsessed about Arab women.



You can have full relations with Israel for all I care. Israel is another Arab country anyway. 70% of the population are Arab Jews or Palestinian Arabs.

The whole Muslim world is Arabized (completely, greatly, significantly or moderately) to begin with.



KSA should not be giving citizenships out to begin with. If KSA did that, we would be flooded by 100's of millions of people. There are 20+ Arab countries. Why should fellow Arabs be given Saudi Arabian citizenships if they have their own citizenship? To begin with, I believe that most if not all of the modern day Arab states should be abolished. We need 1-3 large Arab nations. Look at Arabia. If one united country, it would be a massive power.

I am not fan of the current modern-day borders in the Arab world. They are not natural.

As for expats in KSA, before they came to KSA, they were well aware of the rules. No promises were made to them. Let them flood other countries and expect citizenships and everything in said countries. There is only 1 Saudi Arabia in the world. If we had liberal citizenship laws, KSA as we know it, would no longer exist.

The same genetic science also says that not only saudis but all human beings also share their DNA with every other "living organism" on earth. Why don't you feel so proud of having scientifically proven genetic relationship of humans (including arabians) to frogs, snakes, fish, banana, apple, monkey, cows and dogs etc.

At the end of the day human beings are scientifically nothing but a stabilized bio-chemical system of primarily organic molecules consisting of bonding between hydrogen, carbon, oxygen and nitrogen which behave in a funny mobile manner which we call "life" compared to any other chemical/physical systems in the world.