Saudi Arabia Goes An ‘Extra-Mile’ to Placate Pakistan As Determined Islamabad Refuses To Yield An Inch

[Baz2020]

And the jaahil Pakistani qaum says hamara birder Islam mulk. Mecca and nedina should be controlled by all Muslim countries not Saudi Jews

 

[pakpride00090]

Before everyone start commenting I want Pakistanis to note who is the author of this article and what could be his motive

پاکتانی حضرات تبصرے سے پہلے غور کرلیں کہ ان کے گرم تندور پر کون اپنی روٹیاں سینکنا چاہ رہا ہے​

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Shia and indian... Makes sense.

 

[Chakar The Great]

Before everyone start commenting I want Pakistanis to note who is the author of this article and what could be his motive

پاکتانی حضرات تبصرے سے پہلے غور کرلیں کہ ان کے گرم تندور پر کون اپنی روٹیاں سینکنا چاہ رہا ہے​

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Point taken.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

And the jaahil Pakistani qaum says hamara birder Islam mulk. Mecca and nedina should be controlled by all Muslim countries not Saudi Jews

Mecca and Medina are in Saudi Arabia. Let the Saudi whatevers look after and deal with those cities. They have the jurisdiction, not us or any other non-Saudis. Nothing to do with Pakistan or Pakistanis. We can't even take care and look after Pakistani cities.

Lets get deferred payment oil from from Libya as well.. and not keep all eggs in one basket.

To make things easy, why don't we just buy oil from Iran.

 

[m52k85]

Request Pakistani kids not to play into hand of those who seek to divide us. Let IK handle any friction between the two countries, Pakistani and Saudi people have much in common their kings change every few years.

 

[mingle]

Lets get deferred payment oil from from Libya as well.. and not keep all eggs in one basket.

Oil is very cheap at the moment we don't need anybody favour

 

[Titanium100]

Before everyone start commenting I want Pakistanis to note who is the author of this article and what could be his motive

پاکتانی حضرات تبصرے سے پہلے غور کرلیں کہ ان کے گرم تندور پر کون اپنی روٹیاں سینکنا چاہ رہا ہے​

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I don't understand why so many people are actively discussing fake news and also drawn to controversies that are fake news but generally controversies whether they are fake or not. There is no source checking on PDF or any sources with ulterior motives everything is digested with even bones and hair

 

[Irfan Baloch]

My only wish is that Pakistan stays firm and only say Yes or No's according to our supreme national and public interests. Rest KSA, UAE, US, Iran whoever it is can go climb a tree.

MBS is ruthless. he is no different to Daesh tactics when it comes to having the video made of execution and dismemberment of a person who dared to utter words that spoilt crown price didnt like.
he has had his own family members either mysteriously removed or imprisoned along with other wealthy Saudis to bring KSA under his control.

he wont hesitate to punish Pakistan but I would advise against direct confrontation with KSA. its not about personalities. our ties with KSA are historic although heavily tilted in KSA favor but that was only due to our own fault.
there is nothing wrong in normalizing relations with Iran and improving cooperation with Turkey but it must not be at the expense of KSA.
if for once, our leaders are not self serving looting bastards and let the country heal and stand on its own feet then KSA will be first to embrace Pakistan with honor and dignity. recognizing Israel is irrelevant and KSA or even Israel wont give a damn about Pakistani relationship with the Zionist regime.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Mecca and Medina are in Saudi Arabia. Let the Saudi whatevers look after and deal with those cities. They have the jurisdiction, not us or any other non-Saudis. Nothing to do with Pakistan or Pakistanis. We can't even take care and look after Pakistani cities.

Did you know that the Saudis invaded and conquered Hejaz in 1924? Mecca and Medina were part of Hejaz. Saudis are actually Nejdi while Hejazi were Banu Hashims who have been the custodian of Mecca and Medina for centuries.

 

[Clutch]

The ultimately reason for the huge nosedive of relations between the gcc and Pakistan is due to Pakistan's refusal to fight the Houthis. gulfis honestly believed that the Pakistani military would murder innocent Yemenese men, women, children and babies at the saudi command........

Correct!

 

[Baz2020]

Mecca and Medina are in Saudi Arabia. Let the Saudi whatevers look after and deal with those cities. They have the jurisdiction, not us or any other non-Saudis. Nothing to do with Pakistan or Pakistanis. We can't even take care and look after Pakistani cities.





To make things easy, why don't we just buy oil from Iran.

Jurisdiction lol. Holy lands are no one jurisdiction. I am talking about Muslim countries not Pakistan alone. Wtf are you talking about

 

[airmarshal]

First of all any Indian sourced articles about Pakistan should not be trusted. Indians are driving wedge between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Know the game now before someone tells you 15 years later.

I wish Saudis very well. They are now clamoring for any type of support and even compromising on basic principles because they did not invest their vast fortune in people. With the money Saudis have, they could have invested in top class education system in their country 25 years ago. Today, they would have been an economic power and not be dependent on idiosyncrasies of oil market.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

To make things easy, why don't we just buy oil from Iran.

Limited production capacity. I heard they dont have good track record with supplies to other neighbors..
Due to the sanctions, Iran's ability to produce oil has declined over time.

 

[Pak_Sher]

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia’s (KSA) repeated attempts to choke Pakistan, by, inter alia, asking it to pay back the interest-based three billion USD loan and stopping its supply of oil on deferred loan, are proving futile since the country seems to be unfazed.


In fact, Pakistan has turned the tables on KSA, with Saudi foreign minister Faisal Al Farhan deciding to visit the country, which is an attempt to ‘placate’ the Imran Khan government, according to the experts.

The relations between the two countries hit their nadir on August 6, 2020, when Pakistan foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi suggested that Pakistan should distance itself from the KSA-run Organization of Islamic Countries (OIC) for not sharing the country’s position on Kashmir.

And just eight days later, KSA nudged UAE into establishing full diplomatic relations with Israel and had in the past four months exerted immense pressure on Pakistan to accept Israel, which was resisted by the country.

KSA wanted to coerce Pakistan into accepting Israel in lieu of the loans and other aid but the country showed spine and did not budge. If not for China, Pakistan could not have afforded to stand up to KSA’s intimidating tactics considering its economy has been neck-deep in debt and in severe turbulence for the last few years.

China helped Pakistan return its loan back to the KSA, but it turned out to be a tragedy for the Islamic kingdom. KSA may have gotten its 2 billion USD loan back but the nation lost billions of USD as a fallout of Chinese antagonism.

The kingdom’s oil industry faltered as the global oil prices nosedived, plummeting even below zero at one point. China grabbed the opportunity and stocked its oil reserves well beyond 2021.

It stopped importing oil from KSA, downgrading the kingdom from the largest to the third-largest supplier of oil to the communist nation by the end of August 2020. The oil prices had plummeted due to the spread of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Imran Khan meeting Saudi Arabia’s Ambassador to Pakistan Nawaf Bin Saeed Al-Malki in Islamabad.


In order to assuage the mood in Islamabad, KSA ambassador Saeed Al-Malki met Pakistan PM Imran Khan on December 21, 2020, and was reportedly confronted by the ‘tough’ body language of Khan, which was a message that Pakistan was no more willing to be the remote-controlled extension of KSA, and therefore, Faisal Al Farhan visit had to be necessitated.

The move is likely to see a softening of KSA’s position which would be primarily aimed at goading China, which has been the source of the Kingdom’s troubles lately. After all, China had once been the number one importer of the country’s oil, the mainstay of its economy.

Perhaps, for the first time in its 72 years of history, Pakistan played its cards well vis-a-vis KSA and it conspicuous through the body language of Imran Khan as he met the KSA ambassador.

His gesture of waving his hand gestured that Pakistan was no more a cakewalk for KSA, which, of course, was nothing short of a shock as KSA had always considered Pakistan to be its ‘colony.’

The Saudi ambassador to the country must have communicated the mood in as many words back to Riyadh. However, much water has flown under the bridge and Pakistan will no longer toe Riyadh’s lines in the future.

The last couple of months have been eventful for the Arab-Israeli bromance, with the Arab states raring to embrace Israel and the Israeli intelligence chief Yossi Kohen visiting KSA and the subsequent meeting of Crown Prince MbS and Israel PM Benjamin Netanyahu in Neom city.

Alongside, the war drums have been beating with the US, Israel and KSA planning an attack on Iran, the developments have already set the next coming scenario under US President-Elect Joseph Biden into motion, who is likely to give a cold-shoulder to Pakistan.

Biden may also ruin the plans of MbS as he has been issued a summon from the US over an allegation of having played a role in the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. KSA is soon to announce its establishment of relations with Israel.

Therefore, there may be little change in the power dynamics with Pakistan and China already embroiled in a war-like situation with India, which has the support of the US after signing BECA, along with Israel and KSA.

Hence, the visit from Faisal Al Farhan is not likely to squeeze anything and will, therefore, be inconsequential if not a damn squib.

The visit may also be an opportunity to arm-twist Pakistan since Israel would not use the US but KSA for the purpose. Perhaps, Pakistan has now gone too ahead with Turkey, Malaysia and Iran as an alternative to the power bloc against the KSA.

Pakistan’s foreign policy should look towards the long term

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia’s (KSA) repeated attempts to choke Pakistan, by, inter alia, asking it to pay back the interest-based three billion USD loan and stopping its supply of oil on deferred loan, are proving futile since the country seems to be unfazed.


In fact, Pakistan has turned the tables on KSA, with Saudi foreign minister Faisal Al Farhan deciding to visit the country, which is an attempt to ‘placate’ the Imran Khan government, according to the experts.

The relations between the two countries hit their nadir on August 6, 2020, when Pakistan foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi suggested that Pakistan should distance itself from the KSA-run Organization of Islamic Countries (OIC) for not sharing the country’s position on Kashmir.

And just eight days later, KSA nudged UAE into establishing full diplomatic relations with Israel and had in the past four months exerted immense pressure on Pakistan to accept Israel, which was resisted by the country.

KSA wanted to coerce Pakistan into accepting Israel in lieu of the loans and other aid but the country showed spine and did not budge. If not for China, Pakistan could not have afforded to stand up to KSA’s intimidating tactics considering its economy has been neck-deep in debt and in severe turbulence for the last few years.

China helped Pakistan return its loan back to the KSA, but it turned out to be a tragedy for the Islamic kingdom. KSA may have gotten its 2 billion USD loan back but the nation lost billions of USD as a fallout of Chinese antagonism.

The kingdom’s oil industry faltered as the global oil prices nosedived, plummeting even below zero at one point. China grabbed the opportunity and stocked its oil reserves well beyond 2021.

It stopped importing oil from KSA, downgrading the kingdom from the largest to the third-largest supplier of oil to the communist nation by the end of August 2020. The oil prices had plummeted due to the spread of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Imran Khan meeting Saudi Arabia’s Ambassador to Pakistan Nawaf Bin Saeed Al-Malki in Islamabad.


In order to assuage the mood in Islamabad, KSA ambassador Saeed Al-Malki met Pakistan PM Imran Khan on December 21, 2020, and was reportedly confronted by the ‘tough’ body language of Khan, which was a message that Pakistan was no more willing to be the remote-controlled extension of KSA, and therefore, Faisal Al Farhan visit had to be necessitated.

The move is likely to see a softening of KSA’s position which would be primarily aimed at goading China, which has been the source of the Kingdom’s troubles lately. After all, China had once been the number one importer of the country’s oil, the mainstay of its economy.

Perhaps, for the first time in its 72 years of history, Pakistan played its cards well vis-a-vis KSA and it conspicuous through the body language of Imran Khan as he met the KSA ambassador.

His gesture of waving his hand gestured that Pakistan was no more a cakewalk for KSA, which, of course, was nothing short of a shock as KSA had always considered Pakistan to be its ‘colony.’

The Saudi ambassador to the country must have communicated the mood in as many words back to Riyadh. However, much water has flown under the bridge and Pakistan will no longer toe Riyadh’s lines in the future.

The last couple of months have been eventful for the Arab-Israeli bromance, with the Arab states raring to embrace Israel and the Israeli intelligence chief Yossi Kohen visiting KSA and the subsequent meeting of Crown Prince MbS and Israel PM Benjamin Netanyahu in Neom city.

Alongside, the war drums have been beating with the US, Israel and KSA planning an attack on Iran, the developments have already set the next coming scenario under US President-Elect Joseph Biden into motion, who is likely to give a cold-shoulder to Pakistan.

Biden may also ruin the plans of MbS as he has been issued a summon from the US over an allegation of having played a role in the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. KSA is soon to announce its establishment of relations with Israel.

Therefore, there may be little change in the power dynamics with Pakistan and China already embroiled in a war-like situation with India, which has the support of the US after signing BECA, along with Israel and KSA.

Hence, the visit from Faisal Al Farhan is not likely to squeeze anything and will, therefore, be inconsequential if not a damn squib.

The visit may also be an opportunity to arm-twist Pakistan since Israel would not use the US but KSA for the purpose. Perhaps, Pakistan has now gone too ahead with Turkey, Malaysia and Iran as an alternative to the power bloc against the KSA.

Pakistan’s foreign policy should focus on long term strategic objectives. Saudi Arabia is a brotherly country and a home for millions of Pakistani expats. Disagreements over some issues cannot & should not derail the solid and decades old brotherly relationship.

 

[m52k85]

To make things easy, why don't we just buy oil from Iran.

Because they are under unilateral American sanctions and because the world has allowed america to own all channels of international finance. Even the europeans want to trade with Iran, their governments encourage european companies to trade with Iran but those companies are still scared shitless knowing what the US can do to them.

Now doing it under the radar is another thing, recently it was in the news that IK wanted to clamp down on smuggling, may it could become state sponsored smuggling.

The final thing to worry is, do we have anything Iran wants (pls dont say Jf-17)? We used to be able to export agri goods, now a quarter of import bill is agri goods. We cant give them dollars for reason 1 above (atleast i dont think, it will have to be cold hard currency dollar transported via trunks but these days everything is online).