Satellite Imagery of SU-30s and SAMs Deployed In Srinagar and front line bases.

[Krptonite]

Conflict, between India and Pakistan, has very deep historical and psychological roots and would not be settled easily, without its due quota of violence, destruction and carnage, which has not yet been exhausted to its limits. I don't think that there is an escape from it, unless something very unusual and extraordinary changes the course of future. There may be many dimensions of this discord and hostility, which have not yet been imagined and conceived, and are hidden in the dense fog of future.

I'm unsure if it was done purposefully by British design, to keep any dominant power arising from this region.

Not to give credit to all horrible things we do to each other, that's a topic reserved for a sunny day

Give it time, extraordinary circumstances yield extra ordinary results, hopefully for the better.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

you are talking abot jet engine powered harop type drone they will require inertial/gps guidance and or tercom plus dsmac your rc plane can't carry this plus explosive payload remember jet power will reduce its range endurance and loiter ability significantly.

ALSO u can modify them to work on their memory not rc.

@BVR

 

[Imran Khan]

I'm unsure if it's done purposefully by British design, to keep any dominant power arising from this region.

Not to give credit to all horrible things we do to each other, that's a topic reserved for a sunny day

Well day by day peaceful voices are being shut in both sides lets see how hawks fix it

 

[Fawadqasim1]

It looks like a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan is on the agenda of global movers and shakers.
i may be wrong though
@RIWWIR

 

[Krptonite]

Well day by day peaceful voices are being shut in both sides lets see how hawks fix it

The longer we(both sides) consider it to be a zero sum game, the more attractive that big red button gets, conversely since both sides do have that option, the lesser the chance it gets used.

A frustrating conundrum for the hawks on both sides.

It looks like a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan is on the agenda of global movers and shakers.
i may be wrong though
@RIWWIR

It benefits the western powers if China was absent, with its rise a nuclear exchange is detrimental to all the major powers.

 

[SIPRA]

I'm unsure if it's done purposefully by British design, to keep any dominant power arising from this region.

I don't think so. Great Hindu political minds, like Bal Gangadhar Tilak, Madan Mohan Malaviya, Bipin Chandra Pal, Lala Lajpat Rai, Gandhi, Nehru, Patel and likes, either totally failed to grasp the real problem or circumvented it, intentionally, again, either because of their strong religious inclinations, or recognizing their gross inability to solve it. The issue was social and political solution of the Hindu-Muslim divide, which was as extant, as there could be anything.

Not to give credit to all horrible things we do to each other, that's a topic reserved for a sunny day

Here, in Lahore, it is a sunny day, but not very pleasant.

It looks like a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan is on the agenda of global movers and shakers.
i may be wrong though
@RIWWIR

I don't think so. Elite Hindu is solely responsible for all this mess, since 1857. That is, what I believe, in the light of my limited reading of history. Others may have played some minor roles.

 

[SIPRA]

Anarkali

Don't get it. Too enigmatic.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

I don't think so. Elite Hindu is solely responsible for all this mess, since 1857. That is, what I believe, in the light of my limited reading of history. Others may have played some minor roles.

Historically speaking you are absolutely right sir I am talking about interest groups today out side south Asia who benefits from war and large scale destruction.

 

[Krptonite]

I don't think so. Great Hindu political minds, like Bal Gangadhar Tilak, Madan Mohan Malaviya, Bipin Chandra Pal, Lala Lajpat Rai, Gandhi, Nehru, Patel and likes, either totally failed to grasp the real problem or circumvented it, intentionally, again, either because of their strong religious inclinations, or recognizing their gross inability to solve it. The issue was social and political solution of the Hindu-Muslim divide, which was as extant, as there could be anything.

I'm not implying that deep divisions weren't present in our social fabric, just that, with the way the British went about devolving powers to us it exasperated them more. In a more optimistic reality, mayhaps we could have solved them in a united democratic structure.

Wishfull thinking though, given the current events.

 

[SIPRA]

Historically speaking you are absolutely right sir I am talking about interest groups today out side south Asia who benefits from war and large scale destruction.

Sorry, my answer was somewhat irrelevant.

Still, I don't think so. A nuclear exchange, anywhere, would not be desirable, by any global power or interest group. It's impacts are too unpredictable and too widespread; and they know it very well, far more than us.

I'm not implying that deep divisions weren't present in our social fabric, just that, with the way the British went about devolving powers to us it exasperated them more. In a more optimistic reality, mayhaps we could have solved them in a united democratic structure.

Wishfull thinking though, given the current events.

Of course, British played their role in reinforcing and deepening this divide, in the interests of their colonial rule; but, still, it ultimately was our responsibility to resolve it and, in this respect, no tangible effort was done, by those, who were supposed to do it, as I have briefly laid down in my previous post.

 

[BVR]

you are talking abot jet engine powered harop type drone they will require inertial/gps guidance and or tercom plus dsmac your rc plane can't carry this plus explosive payload remember jet power will reduce its range endurance and loiter ability significantly.

@BVR

i repeat. THIS TIME LOUD AND CLEAR !

Use these less than 100$ machines to

* waste enemy AD assets
* find out the weakness of IA, IAF and their AD system etc

not for attack. dear

 

[Krptonite]

Sorry, my answer was somewhat irrelevant.

Still, I don't think so. A nuclear exchange, anywhere, would not be desirable, by any global power or interest group. It's impacts are too unpredictable and too widespread; and they know it very well, far more than us.



Of course, British played their role in reinforcing and deepening this divide, in the interests of their colonial rule; but, still, it ultimately was our responsibility to resolve it and, in this respect, no tangible effort was done, by those, who were supposed to do it, as I have briefly laid down in my previous post.

It's often the case, unfortunately, that public needs are secondary to the ruling elite needs in a new nation when the nation's institutions are still fledgling.

 

[Rank]

This time what IA understands from last time, don’t give PAF space. IA will definitely attack from to front LOC and Sindh Rajastan side to deviate PAF on two different front. But again PAF is tooo heavy for IA. That will push China as well to engage from the other side of the border because of Ladak A-chin... PAF knowz how to handle IA ..

 

[BVR]

We r going to face a war from all 4 sides

*indian border (complete loc)
*Afghanistan (indian proxies)
*iran (indian proxies)
* Indian navy from the south

PAF is not such big to handle all alone.

This is where haram aulad of of our old friendlies r showing us their foot.
Paf itself fought their ARAB war, but today theyre not showing EVEN a little MORAL Support

every one knows the border situation with Afghan an iran in late feb-19
it was the PDF fb page daily posting about fighterjets of iran near loc.

this time the party is more violent and huge in magnitude

 

[Fawadqasim1]

We r going to face a war from all 4 sides

*indian border (complete loc)
*Afghanistan (indian proxies)
*iran (indian proxies)
* Indian navy from the south

PAF is not such big to handle all alone.

This is where haram aulad of of our old friendlies r showing us their foot.
Paf itself fought their ARAB war, but today theyre not showing EVEN a little MORAL Support

It was our foolishness not theirs

This time what IA understands from last time, don’t give PAF space. IA will definitely attack from to front LOC and Sindh Rajastan side to deviate PAF on two different front. But again PAF is tooo heavy for IA. That will push China as well to engage from the other side of the border because of Ladak A-chin... PAF knowz how to handle IA ..

China won't budge