Saeed Anwar's Shocking Views about Imran Khan

[PurpleButcher]

yeah but isn't that actual description of islam?
afaik, non muslims cant go to heaven. please correct me if im wrong.

I myself find this thing illogical but I need to do a bit research on this. I will get back to you

 

[VCheng]

looks like he will approve if Imran burns US flags and praises taliban instead of doing charity work

As will a majority of PDF.

 

[Zibago]

As will a majority of PDF.

A bit judgy arent we?

 

[Vapnope]

Aah what else can be expected from followers of TJ !

 

[VCheng]

A bit judgy arent we?

No Sir, merely truthful. The Closet Mullah Brigade is strong here.

 

[Moonlight]

kya rate hai bhai jannat ke ticket ka ajkal ?

Pehla Qadam nafs pe Dosra Janat main.

 

[Imran Khan]

Pehla Qadam nafs pe Dosra Janat main.

jo wahan peo to halal hai jo yahan peo to haram ?

 

[Moonlight]

jo wahan peo to halal hai jo yahan peo to haram ?

Yehi to nafs pe control h sir jii. .
Baat peenay Ki Thori h Baat nafs Ke control Ki h.
Wase bhi nasha Islam main Buht sari valid reasons Ki wajah Se prohibited h.

"Aao Ki sajda Karen Alaam e madhoshi main

Log kehte Hain sagir ko khuda Yaad nahi".

 

[marbella]

Probably...
In heaven you'll find all these pious better than everyone tablighis to teach you more.
In hell theres imran to chat with and play cricket. There will be some pdfers to troll with. In addition theres nargis jlo katarina and hurrem sultan.
Choice is yours.

 

[Super Falcon]

I agree with him but also disagree

Amal is all about helping humanity follow rules of ALLAH and let do the justice ALLAH who is best judge who we are judging people

 

[Imran Khan]

Yehi to nafs pe control h sir jii. .
Baat peenay Ki Thori h Baat nafs Ke control Ki h.
Wase bhi nasha Islam main Buht daro valid reasons Ki wajah Se prohibited h.

"Aao Ki sajda Karen Alaam e madhoshi main

Log kehte Hain sagir ko khuda Yaad nahi".

phir jhanam jana hai mujhy

 

[Moonlight]

phir jhanam jana hai mujhy

Duniya to temporary hai jhanam forever. :p

 

[Imran Khan]

Duniya to temporary hai jhanam forever. :p

aik khuda temporary gunnah ki saza permanent kesy de sakta hai ?

 

[Moonlight]

aik khuda temporary gunnah ki saza permanent kesy de sakta hai ?

Gunah Ke bad toba Ka chance bhi to deta hai bar bar maaf bhi to karta hai. Nai?
Or jab temporary gunah bar bar karo or toba bhi nahi karo disobey karo Allah ko to Phir sath main Janat Ke dreams?

Earning Janah is not really as difficult as people have portrait it.


My Words

مجھے لگتا ہے اللہ سے ڈرنا نہیں چاہیے۔ ڈر تو کسی بدمعاش جیسے انسان سے لگتا ہے نا۔ مگر اللہ کی ننانوے ناموں میں سے صرف ایک نام ڈرانے والا ہے اور باقی رحمت ہی رحمت۔ وہ اللہ تو خود کہتا ہے آو نا مانگوں مجھ سے اور میں دوں۔ بلکہ وہ رحیم ذات تو نا مانگنے پے ناراض ہو جاتی ہے۔ اُس اللہ کی تو صفت ہی رحمن و رحیم ہے۔ اللہ سے تو محبت کرنی چاہیے۔ بے پناہ، بے مثال، اور لاجواب محبت۔ اُس کی ہاں سے ہاں ملانی چاہیے۔ ہاں اللہ کو کھو دینے سے ضرور ڈرنا چاہیے۔ پتا ہے جب کوئی شخص اللہ کو گنوا دیتا ہے نا اُس کے پاس بچتا کچھ نہیں۔ تو بس اِس بات سے ڈرنا چاہیے۔ کبھی کبھی اللہ جن سے خود کو دُور کرتا ہے نا، انہیں دنیا کی دُولت بہت دے دیتا ہے۔ اُور کچھ کم ظرف اِس دولت کے ملنے پے بہت غرور کرنے لگتے ہیں۔ خود کو رب سمجھ بیٹھتے ہیں۔ اپنے سے کم دولت مند اُور غریبوں کو حقارت سے دیکھتے ہیں۔ سمجھتے ہیں یہ تو اُن کمائی ہوئی دولت ہے۔ نہ کہ یہ سوچتے ہیں کہ اللہ ہی رزق دیتا ہے۔ اُور ھمارا المیہ پتا ہے کیا ہے؟ ہم سمجھتے ہیں کہ اللہ کا خاص رحم و کرم ہے اِن پے۔ حالانکہ ایسا نہیں ہے۔ یہ وہ لوگ ہے جن کو اللہ اُن کے حال پے چھوڑ دیتا ہے۔ ہاں اِس سے ڈرنا چاہیے۔ اللہ سے دُعا کرنی چاہیے کہ وہ ہمارے ساتھ رہے۔ نہ کے ہمیں ہمارے حال پے چھوڑ دے۔ نہیں نہیں ہم اِس قابل نہیں کے اللہ کے بنا جی سکے۔ اللہ تو محبت کے قابل ہے۔ ہاں اُسکی محبت کو کھو دینے سے ڈرنا چاہیے۔ کوشش کرتے رہنا چاہیے کہ ہم اللہ اُور اُس کے بندوں کے حقوق پورے کرتے رہیں۔ اللہ کوشش دیکھتا ہے۔ وہ اگر رِزلٹ دیکھ کر انصاف کرنے لگا نا تو پھر ہم تو مارے گئے۔ ہم تو وہ وہ گناہ بھی کرتے جن کا ہمیں پتا بھی نہیں کب اُور کہاں کیا ہے۔ جب محبت ہو گی نا تو اللہ برا حیا والا ہے۔ وہ تو اپنے در سے کسی فقیر کو خالی ہاتھ جانے نہیں دیتا تو بھلا یہ کیسے ممکن ہے کہ وُہ تمہاری محبت کا بھرم نا رکھے۔ چاہے ٹوٹی پھوٹی ہی سہی۔ ہے تو محبت ہی نا۔ کبھی اللہ کہے نہ بتا میری محبت فقیری کے ساتھ لو گے یا میرا تمہں تمہارے حال پے چھوڑ کر دولت دینا لو گے۔ سوچنا مت۔ محبت اُور فقیری لے لینا۔ یہ فقیری بری قسمت والوں کو ملتی ہے۔ یہ فقیری تو رسول اللہ (ص) نے بھی اللہ سے مانگی تھی۔ کچھ تو ہے نہ پھر اِس میں۔ تو مانگ لو رب سے۔ دے دیں تو شکر کرو اُور نہ ملے تو دعا زرور کرو کے اللہ ہمیں اپنی محبت کے قطرے کا بھی قطرہ دے دے۔

 

[CriticalThinker02]

i still find it hard to digest that over 60% of the entire human race, no matter if they were even saints here, will end up in hell later on and even the worst scum amongst the muslims will find a place in heaven after suffering for his sins simply because of his faith. it's kind of unfair, to be honest.

Respectfully you sir call yourself a Muslim and yet you do not even have the answer to such a basic theological question on Islam?

"Knowledge knocks on the door of action. If it receives a reply, it stays, otherwise it departs." - Sufyaan Ath Thawree

Allah SWT is the Creator (Judge of judges), and one of the Characteristics of the Creator is fairness so how can He be unfair and still be the Creator of the heavens and the earth.

"And never would We punish until We sent a messenger." - Quran 17:15

It is specifically mentioned in the Holy Quran countless times that the sin of Shirk will only be applicable to him when the message of truth has been provided to him with clear proofs.

"They will say, "Did there not come to you your messengers with clear proofs?" They will say, "Yes." They will reply, "Then supplicate [yourselves], but the supplication of the disbelievers is not except in error." - Quran 40/50

"And We had already destroyed generations before you when they wronged, and their messengers had come to them with clear proofs, but they were not to believe. Thus do We recompense the criminal people . . ." - Quran 10-13

"Those who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists were not to be parted [from misbelief] until there came to them clear evidence . . ." - Quran 98:1

"[Who is] obligated not to say about Allah except the truth. I have come to you with clear evidence from your Lord, so send with me the Children of Israel." - Quran 7:105

So for those who have not received the message with clear proofs and clear understandings, their case is with Allah SWT but according to most scholars and according to this hadith they would still be tested on the Day of Resurrection.

"Four will have proofs (in their favor) on the Day of Standing:

(1) A deaf man who could not hear anything;
(2) a fool (who could not understand anything);
(3) a feebly old man; and
(4) a man who died in the fatrah (the period between prophets).

As for the deaf man, then he will say: 'My Lord, Islam came and I did not hear anything.' And as for the fool, then he will say, 'My Lord, Islam came and the children were throwing dung at me.' And as for the feebly old man, then he will say, 'My Lord, Islam came and I did not understand anything.' And as for the one who died in the fatrah (period between prophets), then he will say, 'My Lord, no messenger from you came to me.' So He (Allah) will take oaths from them that they will obey Him (in what He is about to request from them), so it (an order) will be sent to them: 'Enter the Fire!' And verily by Him in whose Hand is my soul, if they entered it, it will be cool and soothing." - Musnad (16301)

BTW I am fully aware that religious discussions are not allowed on this forum yet when I see some secular who is twisting the words of a preacher (Saeed Anwar) who is in no way and never considered himself to be a scholar and when I read some individuals like the one I qouted who have little knowledge on the theology of Islam, I will be compelled to give a clarification and a response, my question is why are moderators of this forum allowing such threads?

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