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China’s 5G fighter to fly Russian jet engines

Published time: November 10, 2014 14:00

Computer-generated imagery (CGI) of the J-31/ F-60 fifth generation fighter jet in action with beyond visual range (BVR) air to air missiles and fifth generation short range infrared homing air-to-air missiles. (Image from Chinese Military Review)

An exportable Chinese fifth-generation fighter jet will be equipped with gas-turbine jet engines developed and assembled by Russian companies, confirmed the head of Russian delegation at the Airshow China exhibition.
The mid-sized advanced J-31 fighter jet developed by Shenyang Aircraft Corporation got off the ground for the first time on October 31, 2012, and has been in the process of modification ever since.

“The J-31 with the Russian RD-93 engine is considered to be an export program, capable of rivaling the American F-35 fifth-generation aircraft on the regional markets,” Rosoboronexport’s Air Force Equipment Export Department Head Sergey Kornev said in an interview to RIA Novosti.

The Russian RD-93 turbofan jet engine is a modification of the RD-33 engines, developed in 1968-1985 by the Klimov Design Bureau specifically for MiG-29 fighter jet family.

Initially, the RD-93 was developed by Klimov specifically for the FC-1 Xiaolong (also known as JF-17 Thunder), a lightweight, single-engine, multi-role combat aircraft developed jointly by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) and the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) of China to become the Pakistan Air Force’s primary fighter jet.

Kornev said that the J-31 competing with the F-35 “is an ambitious program, yet very real, particularly taking into consideration the high cost of F-35 and certain problems with its development,” in comments to RIA Novosti at the China International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition in Zhuhai.

China’s science and aviation industries demonstrate high potential, since the country has two fifth-generation fighter jets, the J-31 and J-20, in development, Kornev said.

The Chengdu J-20 is stealth, twin-engine fifth-generation fighter aircraft prototype being developed by Chengdu Aerospace Corp. for the Chinese Air Force. It performed its maiden flight in 2011 and could be introduced into service starting from 2017, if it gets the quality of engine a true fifth-generation fighter jet deserves.

In March 2012, RT reported that J-20 was performing test flights with two Russian AL-31F jet engines it borrowed from the Russian Su-27 fighter jet that entered Chinese service in the mid-1980s.

The J-20 needs an engine with characteristics similar to AL-41F1C engines Russian newest Su-35 multifunctional fighter jets are equipped with. This engine enables a fighter to achieve supersonic speed without an afterburner, a feature attributed to 5G jets. The AL-41F1C is actually a de-rated version of the AL-41F1 (117C) engine used on the T-50 PAK-FA, Russian 5G fighter jet currently undergoing tests.

The Su-35 fighter has arrived at Airshow China and will perform demonstration stunts in an attempt to impress the Chinese Air Force top brass, as Beijing has been considering buying the Su-35 fighters for several years now.

Chinese engineers are busy developing jet engines of home design, such as WS-10, WS-13 and WS-15, but so far have not succeeded to reach reliability and durability similar to Russian engines.

“The aircraft engines design and construction technology is very complex, lengthy and costly process,” Kornev told RIA Novosti, noting that two years ago Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) reported it had made real progress in creating new heat-resistant alloys, the key technology in developing afterburning turbofan jet engines.

For the moment there are five 5G fighter jets put on a wing worldwide, namely American F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning II, Russian T-50 (PAK FA) and Chinese J-20 and J-31, with only the US F-22 being deployed for active service.

China International Aviation & Aerospace Exhibition to be conducted in China’s Zhuhai on November 11-16.
 
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This thread resembles the j10 vanguard thread from 2005 ... In this very forum.

As soon as the plaaf started to induct these we had multiple threads

Paf to buy j10
Pakistan to license build j10
Paf to buy 159 j10.

Then it turned to

Paf will wait for j10b or j10c

Nine years laters paf is no longer looking to buy j10 . plaaf have over 250 in service now and growing.

This is why we some of us treat your j31,claims with a pinch of salt and a great deal of skeptism

We can't see the pak finance ministry matching the pak military desires.or the desires of Pakistan defense forum posters in here forum

The timelines we will have in 2020 are outrageous.

I'm not even sure if the plaaf Wil have this by then

@Jungibaaz

Your daily troll kill.
 
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Yup.. the J-31 platform isn not what the PAF was aiming for. But it can always be a competitor if the developed version offers more than the other offering.

Don't you think you are hinting too much about too little available options in just two lines, I mean what other option do we have other then 'FC-31' ....
 
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Russian stated that engine they offer is RD93s. Any body have any info about that?
 
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those specification are highly classified, I think only PAF can get access to.
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@wanglaokan
WS engine done ?if yes details ?
Pave pillar .. detial ? better than isreal and frech avionic ?
PL21 .. detials ?better than r77 , Mica , meter .. ?
AESA ready .. detials ? better than Russian tech ?
EW.. which one ? detial ? better athn islera l and french EW?

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@wanglaokan
WS engine done ?if yes details ?
Pave pillar .. detial ? better than isreal and frech avionic ?
PL21 .. detials ?better than r77 , Mica , meter .. ?
AESA ready .. detials ? better than Russian tech ?
EW.. which one ? detial ? better athn islera l and french EW?

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中国的ws13发动机,根据我们国内的最新报道看,进度完全可以跟的上j31的研发速度,因为报道称ws13发动机很快就能投入使用,新的aesa雷达中国的肯定非常不错,世界都知道俄罗斯的雷达水平不高,但是比法国的如何我们还不清楚,导弹更没问题了,中国有全套的导弹,从近距离格斗弹到中距离主动弹都有,而且性能很不错,机动G数比r77强多了,难道你们不记得在西亚某国,他们的苏27曾经发射过大量导弹却无一命中的故事吗?
 
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Russian stated that engine they offer is RD93s. Any body have any info about that?
现在试飞中的j31采用了两台rd33或93发动机,但是中航工业公司表示,中国已经新投入了几百亿资金在发动机上,ws13很快就能投入使用,而ws15在2012年就研发完成了核心机,目前已经进入高台实验阶段,ws15推力预计有15到17吨,是中国歼20使用的发动机,而j10b和j11b已经开始大量使用ws10a发动机,前几个月中国j11b在南海上空拦截美国p8的时候,那架j11b就是用的两台ws10a发动机,ws10a发动机已经成熟并且装备部队,推力有13.2吨,总体看,ws13的研发进度完全跟的上j31的研发进度
 
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RD-93 and it's further development confirmed for J-31. Russia is keen on collaborating with China. Good prospects for Pakistan as Jf-17 fleet will have engine commonality.
 
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@wanglaokan
WS engine done ?if yes details ?
Pave pillar .. detial ? better than isreal and frech avionic ?
PL21 .. detials ?better than r77 , Mica , meter .. ?
AESA ready .. detials ? better than Russian tech ?
EW.. which one ? detial ? better athn islera l and french EW?

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  中评社北京8月17日电/中国枭龙战机、利剑无人机和歼31战机目前使用的都是俄罗斯RD-93中等推力发动机。由于受技术和专利限制购买外国发动机成本很高。近期通过中航相关部门对外公开的股份资料显示,如今中国类似RD-93的第三代中等推力发动机(应为之前已经开始研制的涡扇13发动机)已经完成研发,开始打造生产线准备大批量生产。一旦该发动机实现量产,中国枭龙战机、利剑无人战机和歼31战机都将换装国产涡扇13中推发动机,一方面减少了外国制约,一方面使用国产发动机可以大幅降低生产成本,利于大批量生产装备和增强外销竞争力。
China completed WS13 engine research and development work, began to enter the preparatory stage of production line
 
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RD-93 and it's further development confirmed for J-31. Russia is keen on collaborating with China. Good prospects for Pakistan as Jf-17 fleet will have engine commonality.
中国已经完成了ws13的研发,已经进入了生产线准备阶段,很快,jf17和j31都将使用ws13发动机
 
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How is it your internal problem?
Taiwan is officially a independent sovereign country with their own Capital and currency, which does not say we belong to China.
You might wanna say whatever deems fit to your pony brain.
But the reality bites. right?

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台湾的国民党政府是二战结束后被pla打到台湾的,台湾是原来的国民政府最后一块地盘,现在全世界都承认中华人民共和国的合法性,中国还是联合国常任理事国,五大国之一,也就是说,台湾属于中国的一部分,是中国的一个省,台湾省的政府是原来的中国国民党政府,但是这属于内战问题,不是国与国之间的问题,懂了吗?
 
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