SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

[ziaulislam]

If Pakistan operates the J-35 in the future, especially, for the Navy, it would make interoperability with and maintenance for the PLAN carrier borne J-35, assigned to patrols in the Indian Ocean, easier. China may not be willing to put up a J-35 maintenance facility in Djibouti, but one in Pakistan would be more secure and subsidized by PAF’s own operations.

Dont think navy will procure
Airforce has always been against navy procuring aircarfts and have calles it a waste

Not all of F-16s are modernised. We still operate majority of basic versions. Also, I said the retirement of F-16 will "start" in 2030s.

The jordans one will have to be retired in 2030
The ABMs in 2040s at the latest

There is no way they can be pushed beyond these simply because we cant rebuild them like mirages

Now if we are given acess to used f16s and we are abale to rebuild them then sure but that will not happen

 

[FuturePAF]

Dont think navy will procure
Airforce has always been against navy procuring aircarfts and have calles it a waste


The jordans one will have to be retired in 2030
The ABMs in 2040s at the latest

There is no way they can be pushed beyond these simply because we cant rebuild them like mirages

Now if we are given acess to used f16s and we are abale to rebuild them then sure but that will not happen

The Air Force may hold that view but the Navy would surely appreciate dedicated fighter coverage as it considers venturing further out to sea; to control the EEZ and the SLOCs. I guess it has to come down to if their is a shift in doctrine from a defensive navy to a more offensive navy.

 

[Scorpiooo]

Look at all possibilities. Why would China-share its engines for an AC which will become its competitor? The engine however remains the weakest link of any Pak Turk project. Our Turk brothers say their cumulative experience wipl help them build an engine but that remains to be seen. If they flounder where do we get an engine from? Russia is a possibility. China could be( with prior reservations) EU and US unlikely. Minor subsystems can come from anywhere including China.
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TAI is very close to finalize deal with RR for local assembly of engines, Russian and Chinese will be backup plan

Regarding Chinese they have multiple engine programs in process so they will happily try to earn from any engine that will less then there best for export markets like American

Look at all possibilities. Why would China-share its engines for an AC which will become its competitor? The engine however remains the weakest link of any Pak Turk project. Our Turk brothers say their cumulative experience wipl help them build an engine but that remains to be seen. If they flounder where do we get an engine from? Russia is a possibility. China could be( with prior reservations) EU and US unlikely. Minor subsystems can come from anywhere including China.
A

TAI is very close to finalize deal with RR for local assembly of engines, Russian and Chinese will be backup plan

Regarding Chinese they have multiple engine programs in process so they will happily try to earn from any engine that will less then there best for export markets like American

The Air Force may hold that view but the Navy would surely appreciate dedicated fighter coverage as it considers venturing further out to sea; to control the EEZ and the SLOCs. I guess it has to come down to if their is a shift in doctrine from a defensive navy to a more offensive navy.

Navy or PAF what ever finance, there is higher chance of limited J31 induction post 2025 as AZM or even TFX will take atleast decade to be materials

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

 

[The SC]

Chinese J-35 stealth fighters spotted on aircraft carriers

 

[Zhukov]

Chinese J-35 stealth fighters spotted on aircraft carriers

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you mean J-31

 

[Scorpiooo]

you mean J-31

Now is designated as J35 for naval variant

 

[Luosifen]

Chinese J-35 stealth fighters spotted on aircraft carriers

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That's a training facility on land, not a carrier.

 

[The SC]

That's a training facility on land, not a carrier.View attachment 837685

Training to be on a carrier.. isn't it?

 

[Luosifen]

Training to be on a carrier.. isn't it?

Yes, the original description was just worded poorly, that's all. No offense meant

 

[Akasa]

Training to be on a carrier.. isn't it?

Your original post incorrectly states that the jets were photographed on a carrier and subsequent response is to refute that.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Training to be on a carrier.. isn't it?

No, This picture shows FC-31/J-35s are on land not on carrier

 

[siegecrossbow]

Chinese J-35 stealth fighters spotted on aircraft carriers

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Not aircraft carrier. Testing facility on land.

 

[Deino]

Chinese J-35 stealth fighters spotted on aircraft carriers

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No, most likely two mock ups for handling trials were noted at the NAS Huangdicun, NOT on an aircraft carrier!

 

[python-000]

its means that J-35 progressing very fast & on the Right track & there are 2 different J-35 1 for Air Force & 1 for Navy...