Rustam e hind wrestler, the giant of Gujranwala Raheem Baksh Sultaniwala

[Crusher]

three separate threads on the same topic?

It was mistake by me, I have tagged the mod @Dubious on this thread to delete it because it is redundant.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

I heard that once; most Punjabi villages fielded a team of Pehelwans, I wonder why our martial sports died out so rapidly.

 

[B.K.N]

I heard that once; most Punjabi villages fielded a team of Pehelwans, I wonder why our martial sports died out so rapidly.

Not true
But in past local games like kabadi and lambi khed etc were popular
These games are not dead but are still played mostly at melas

Not a lot of men would like to play something like this dressed like them this may be the reason why these games are not popular

 

[khanmubashir]

The Punjabi mountain

 

[Crusher]

Not true
But in past local games like kabadi and lambi khed etc were popular
These games are not dead but are still played mostly at melas

Not a lot of men would like to play something like this dressed like them this may be the reason why these games are not popular

Did you play this game which was called "Badi" (probably distortion of kabadi) in our areas in my childhood in 80s and 90s, I think west of Gujranwala it is called "wanju" or "vanju". It was a great game to test one's agilitiy, speed and reflexes, we used to play it quite frequently in our childhood.

 

[B.K.N]

Did you play this game which was called "

Yes I've played
this is a team game
One team stands in columns and other have to cross these columns if even one player is successful in returning to starting position without being touched by any player of opponent team than game is over
and aggressor team wins
Played this game last time about 7 or 8 years ago
and never knew this word badi originated from kabadi we used to prounce it as body

 

[B.K.N]

Did you play this game which was called "Badi"

What other games are played in your area

 

[Crusher]

What other games are played in your area

I have really forgotten now, I played most of local games during my childhood in 80s and early 90s, many of them have even got extinct now. I used to play "sua" with my friends, langra sher, bandar killa, bara tain, chor sipahi, kaudian gajji chara, badi, latu, bantay etc. I was a good wrestler too in my childhood in 80s, I used to pin down my friends easily but as I grew up I lost my wrestling strength, might have something to do with genetics.

 

[hussain0216]

This picture is so freaking weird!

 

[CodeforFood]

This picture is so freaking weird!

especially the guy laying down. actually the guys hanging like monkeys as well tbh. smh. kinky to say the least.

 

[Crusher]

Yes for mummy daddy kids born outside of Pakistan these pictures are "strange" and "weird" looking but for someone who is born and grown up in the indigenous culture of central Punjab Pakistan, these are pretty normal and elegant pictures. That is why I feel that "Pakistanis" born and grown up outside of Pakistan are not fit to integrate in Pakistan's indigenous society. This is our culture and history and we are proud of every bit of it.

 

[CodeforFood]

Yes for mummy daddy kids born outside of Pakistan these pictures are "strange" and "weird" looking but for someone who is born and grown up in the indigenous culture of central Punjab Pakistan, these are pretty normal and elegant pictures. That is why I feel that "Pakistanis" born and grown up outside of Pakistan are not fit to integrate in Pakistan's indigenous society. This is our culture and history and we are proud of every bit of it.

I was born and raised in Pakistan and spent most of my life in Pakistan. You need to stop assuming and look at the picture and try to understand the joke. If this is difficult to understand I mean get some sense of humor. It will have a good effect on you.

 

[zulu]

Support on govt level even back then they were supported by different states (rajwaray ).Anyone knows the name the book written by Akhtar hussain Sheikh who used to write about pehlwans in sarghuzhast digest back in 90's??on this website i check they dont have info about my favorite kalia jalalpuri

Also check this guy channel he put many videos about different pehalwans
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzI7Bku0fwpj3R7nm8eKC0w

 

[Crusher]

I was born and raised in Pakistan and spent most of my life in Pakistan. You need to stop assuming and look at the picture and try to understand the joke. If this is difficult to understand I mean get some sense of humor. It will have a good effect on you.

You may be born and raised in Pakistan but you certainly have to sense of our indigenous popular culture and history.

 

[TurkshilButt786]

But the modern Kashmiri people look very "fragile" from physique wise. I personally believe these pehlwans had mixed ancestries so they were not pure "kashmiri" as these pehlwan families used to intermarry only among other pehlwan families irrespective of their ethnicities and they used to roam in various kingdoms ranging from Afghanistan to deep India. And their ancestries were all mixed, it was a common occurrence for a "kashmiri" pehlwan from Gujranwala to marry into a pehlwan family of Amritsar, Multan or some other hub of wrestler families which were not necessarily "kashmiri".

I have looked at your other posts on this thread which are quite logical and were a good read but I completely disagree with your comment on the modern Kashmiri people looking very fragile. I am not sure if you're referring to the Kashmiris from Kashmir Valley in India or Kashmiris settled in Punjab, Pakistan.
But if you look at the Butt/Kashmiris of Punjab then
The current Wrestling Champion of Pakistan with 2 Commonwealth Golds is Inam Butt
The current best Weightlifter of Pakistan is Muhammad Nooh Butt (Bronze in Commonwealth)
The current best Kabbadi raider after Babbar Gujjar is Heera Butt
All of them are of Kashmiri descent so I am not sure where you got this concept of modern Kashmiris being fragile? I think currently it is the Kashmiris of Gujranwala that are keeping the Punjabi Riwaj of Pehalwani alive.
As for marrying into other ethnicities, It is reported that Gama Pehalwan had a second wife in Gujrat but being from the Kashmiri community what I have felt is that Kashmiris from Gujranwala & also Amritsar (back in the day) are very strict on not marrying outside Kashmiris.
It's just the diet and mindset I believe that has made the difference between Kashmiris from the valley and Punjab. Diet in Punjab is very high in Saturated fat such as Ghee, Paya also Kashmiris from the valley are believed to be very disciplined and non-aggressive individuals which I feel is due to a very heavy sufi influence but you don't see such traits in majority of the Punjabis of Kashmiri descent
Peace!