RUSSIA'S S-500 AIR DEFENCE SYSTEM REPORTEDLY HITS TARGET NEARLY 300 MILES AWAY

[Basel]

S-500 is a medium/short range ballistic missile interceptor, much like a land based SM-6.

If S-500 was deployed then its target will be Russian immediate neighbour, which is Japan, North and South Korea, India, Pakistani and China.

S-500 will not be useful for missile launched from US mainland.....

When did Pakistan become immediate neighbour of Russia??

 

[jhungary]

When did Pakistan become immediate neighbour of Russia??

Ask yourself this

1.) Did Pakistan have ballistic missile technology?
2.) Were Pakistan border within 500 mile of a Russian influence country (namely your southern border and some of your northern border) that they can put S-500 on?

I said Neighbour, not bordering.

Yessss, China has also purchased S 400 and S 300 variants to counter Russia. I am following your posts, they are making my days.

Congrats to Russia on this event.

You do know S-500 is not the same system of S-400 or S-300?

S-500 is a THAAD like system, S-400 is like SM-2ER system, S-500 is defence against immediate ballistic missile attack, S-300/400 is for A2/AD.

Think vis-à-vis where Russia can deploy their S-500 when they become operational? Russian soil and its immediate neighbour (Russia, India, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan) , which all bordering China, then think why China is so oppose to US THAAD deployment to South Korea.

S-500 from inception is not against country like US unless a Naval version is developed, unless you can put S-500 radar system on Canada and Mexico to monitor US missile activities.

So, jokes is on you, because you lack of any military and scientific knowledge. Go study some military technology before you challenge people like me, otherwise YOU will looks stupid.

 

[GumNaam]

unless the target is somewhere over the Mediterranean sea, then the S-500 would fail to launch!

 

[Natan]

When an old аss fails to deliver, a new аss drags attention.

 

[Basel]

Ask yourself this

1.) Did Pakistan have ballistic missile technology?
2.) Were Pakistan border within 500 mile of a Russian influence country (namely your southern border and some of your northern border) that they can put S-500 on?

I said Neighbour, not bordering.



You do know S-500 is not the same system of S-400 or S-300?

S-500 is a THAAD like system, S-400 is like SM-2ER system, S-500 is defence against immediate ballistic missile attack, S-300/400 is for A2/AD.

Think vis-à-vis where Russia can deploy their S-500 when they become operational? Russian soil and its immediate neighbour (Russia, India, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan) , which all bordering China, then think why China is so oppose to US THAAD deployment to South Korea.

S-500 from inception is not against country like US unless a Naval version is developed, unless you can put S-500 radar system on Canada and Mexico to monitor US missile activities.

So, jokes is on you, because you lack of any military and scientific knowledge. Go study some military technology before you challenge people like me, otherwise YOU will looks stupid.

Don't try to twist things, immediate neighbour means bordering and Russia didn't have influence over Pakistan.

 

[jhungary]

Don't try to twist things, immediate neighbour means bordering and Russia didn't have influence over Pakistan.

I don't know what "Neighbour" mean in Pakistan. In US, Australia, Sweden and Hong Kong, if I live in the beginning of a street, the family from the end of the street even if my house did not share a command border with his/her house, are still my (immediate) Neighbour. And other people living in the adjacent street are called "In My Neighbourhood"

The person who live Next door to us is called "Next Door Neighbour".

Again, I do not know what is the concept of "Neighbour" in Urdu or in Pakistan.

And I never said Russia have influence on Pakistan, Russia have influence on country NEIGHBOURING Pakistan.

 

[Basel]

I don't know what "Neighbour" mean in Pakistan. In US, Australia, Sweden and Hong Kong, if I live in the beginning of a street, the family from the end of the street even if my house did not share a command border with his/her house, are still my (immediate) Neighbour. And other people living in the adjacent street are called "In My Neighbourhood"

The person who live Next door to us is called "Next Door Neighbour".

Again, I do not know what is the concept of "Neighbour" in Urdu or in Pakistan.

And I never said Russia have influence on Pakistan, Russia have influence on country NEIGHBOURING Pakistan.

Russian border if more then 500km away from Pakistan and in between there are several countries and Russia doesn't have influence on western border of Pakistan that is why they want our cooperation in fighting WOT in Afghanistan as we have good influence there.

 

[jhungary]

Russian border if more then 500km away from Pakistan and in between there are several countries and Russia doesn't have influence on western border of Pakistan that is why they want our cooperation in fighting WOT in Afghanistan as we have good influence there.

So, tell me, what would you feel if India decided to purchase S-500?

To be honest with you, Russia may want to be cordial with Pakistan, but traditional wisdom suggest, Russia would most likely remain in India camp, and it would mean Russia and Pakistan would remain a strategic competitor (I am not going to say enemy as it was not really that bad) as long as India is sternly in Russian camp.

And I don't think Russia care about Afghanistan to begin with.

 

[Basel]

So, tell me, what would you feel if India decided to purchase S-500?

To be honest with you, Russia may want to be cordial with Pakistan, but traditional wisdom suggest, Russia would most likely remain in India camp, and it would mean Russia and Pakistan would remain a strategic competitor (I am not going to say enemy as it was not really that bad) as long as India is sternly in Russian camp.

And I don't think Russia care about Afghanistan to begin with.

If India keep drifting towards US than Russia will become strategic partner of Pakistan in future because US is encircling both China and Russia. But Russia will remain big weapons seller to India till India is interested in purchasing from them. Russia is trying to balance the relationship with India and Pakistan.

Russia can sell whatever they want to India but China will not allow Indian supremacy in south Asia due to US factor which is also a concern for Russia.

 

[TheBlackCoat]

The Indian Air Force has stated it is not interested in the F-35,
Drones can be bought from Israel, and the C-17 production has terminated.

Indian Airforce only said that they did not request any information. They will happily procure F-35 if their government allows them. C-17 production may have ended but the point is only US could produce and sell such equipment.

 

[ptldM3]

What is stopping adversaries from shooting down the S-500 missile?
To have great range, the missile needs a lot of fuel, and need to be large.
It is likely to be easily detected by radar.
It is going to be a good exchange to spend one A2A missile per S-500.

Did you just say an air to air missile can destroy an S-500 which basically is a ballistic missile?

The S-500 can travel at nearly Mach 21, your average air to air missile flies at about Mach 2.5-3.0. It wouldn’t have the kinetic energy or range. Most air to air missile have a hard time hitting slow aircraft, thus salvos of missiles usually have to be fired to successful shoot down an aircraft. Your assertion is preposterous.

 

[Dalit]

Did you just say an air to air missile can destroy an S-500 which basically is a ballistic missile?

The S-500 can travel at nearly Mach 21, your average air to air missile flies at about Mach 2.5-3.0. It wouldn’t have the kinetic energy or range. Most air to air missile have a hard time hitting slow aircraft, thus salvos of missiles usually have to be fired to successful shoot down an aircraft. Your assertion is preposterous.

This Swede thinks he can catch a missile with his bare hands. For him anything is possible.

The truth is that S-500 is one menacing system that will give US/NATO sleepless nights. They can't face S-400 and upgraded S-300 systems LOL

 

[LeGenD]

This Swede thinks he can catch a missile with his bare hands. For him anything is possible.

The truth is that S-500 is one menacing system that will give US/NATO sleepless nights. They can't face S-400 and upgraded S-300 systems LOL

Remember this: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/damage-assessment-of-strikes-in-syria-by-nato-what-was-struck.553781/

Both Syrian and Russian defenses failed to stop that barrage; S-400 was also there.

 

[ptldM3]

Remember this: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/damage-assessment-of-strikes-in-syria-by-nato-what-was-struck.553781/

Both Syrian and Russian defenses failed to stop that barrage; S-400 was also there.

In order to fail, you have to first try. Where and when on gods green earth did Russia fire a single missile at that birage? Especially from the S-400? This would be like me accusing the US, UK and France of being incapable and failing to shoot down a single Russian cruise missile in Syria when they have bases inside Syria, Turkey and Cyprus, similar they have warships armed with surface to air missiles off the Syrian coast, yet have they shot down a single Russian cruise missiles?

In any case that was an embarrassing operation for the west, many of the cruise missiles missed their targets, a university was destroyed, Russia detected one of the most advanced NATO submarines and prevented it from firing missiles, French warships also were trailed by Russian warships and had malfunctions when trying to fire cruise missiles. The operation was a blunder...


You suffer from acute western fanboy syndrome, symptoms include irrational outbursts, gloating, making, unsubstantiated claims, using phrases such as “best in the world”, “unmatched”, and so on. Denial is often prevelant, whenever western equipment fails spectacularly to Russian equipment like say the hundreds of MRAPS, tanks and aircraft shot down in Yemen, it’s always never the fault to glorious western technology.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Did you just say an air to air missile can destroy an S-500 which basically is a ballistic missile?

The S-500 can travel at nearly Mach 21, your average air to air missile flies at about Mach 2.5-3.0. It wouldn’t have the kinetic energy or range. Most air to air missile have a hard time hitting slow aircraft, thus salvos of missiles usually have to be fired to successful shoot down an aircraft. Your assertion is preposterous.

You do not need long range to shoot down a missile which travels towards You.
You also do not need high speed to hit a missile travelling towards You.
Actually you can disable a missile by putting a stationary object in its path.
Zero Range, Zero Speed...

What you need is to detect the speed and direction of the incoming missile
and be able to calculate when to detonate.

It is highly unlikely that the S-500 will manouver, so it will be much easier to hit than an airplane trying to manouver its way out of the track of an incoming missile.

As for kinetic energy, the S-500 is not significantly different in size than a fighter.

That Russian missiles are highly unreliable is well known, but modern Western missiles have much improved Pk.

ICBMs reach MACH 21, but they do not need to manouver to hit a moving target.
An S-500 hunting for an ICBM might reach that speed. Will it be able to reach that speed hunting at 10,000 meters?

Whether it works in practice with todays missile or not is unlikely to be public information.
There is nothing stopping someone from developing such counter measure.