Russian warplane violates Turkish airspace

[ANMDT]

I support Russian actions in Ukraine

Thats shows you are not objective, you support the things which is in favor of you and your ally . How does it feel when you here your lovely Russian backed militants shoot down a Passenger airliner ?

Wait a minute, wasn't the government in Ukraine toppled with a western-backed coup?

Coup ? i would suggest you to read what happened in Ukraine is began with Opposition againts Russian backed president, when the government came down and EU backed won, then Russia supported the separatists ( How legal is it to supply AA battalition to seperatists or such heavy weapons ? If US did this in Syria what would be your comment ?

There is also a coup in egypt which is purely backed by someone but why dont you talk over it ?

 

[xenon54 out]

Well...I would not want to have myself boiled by a nuclear blast but it never was that simple. This one is a reality happening for over 60 years; whenever there was a conventional threat against Turkey's national security, NATO was there. Check history books.

There are so many ''experts'' about the NATO-Turkey issue in PDF, funny that they all repeat eachother...

 

[Serpentine]

Thats shows you are not objective, you support the things which is in favor of you and your ally . How does it feel when you here your lovely Russian backed militants shoot down a Passenger airliner ?
Coup ? i would suggest you to read what happened in Ukraine is began with Opposition againts Russian backed president, when the government came down and EU backed won, then Russia supported the separatists ( How legal is it to supply AA battalition to seperatists or such heavy weapons ? If US did this in Syria what would be your comment ?

There is also a coup in egypt which is purely backed by someone but why dont you talk over it ?

Before quoting a post, read it completely and carefully. I said the exact opposite. This is what I said, but you decided to 'ignore' a part of it:

I have never said that I support Russian actions in Ukraine

Regarding Ukraine and Egypt, I don't support any of them and neither do I support Russian actions in Ukraine, same as west's policy regarding the issue. That doesn't mean I won't support Russian strikes against terrorists in Syria, especially those supported by Erdogan, Nusra, Ahrar al-Sham and other similar ones.

 

[ANMDT]

Before quoting a post, read it completely and carefully. I said the exact opposite. This is what I said, but you decided to 'ignore' a part of it:

i am asking apoligize for this didnt focus on it .

terrorists in Syria

You know that terrorist definition is so flexible, ie All groups in syria is terrorists for Assad as well as Russia , PKK isnt a terrorist organizaiton for Iran but does for Turkey, same to PYD for Syria. But based on your logic,

I would support only if Russia honestly coming to defeat IS along with others and then inviting people to talk over issue and make negotiations. Airspace violation is a result their showing off against West they didnt come anything else than " showing off" invitation of Esed is just a cover, else than this they should really shutdown their aviation activities if they are having navigation issues in bombing sorties .

 

[batmannow]

Well...I would not want to have myself boiled by a nuclear blast but it never was that simple. This one is a reality happening for over 60 years; whenever there was a conventional threat against Turkey's national security, NATO was there. Check history books.

Clear yourself for this time , there is no cold war here anymore & the geo dynamics has changed long ago ?
Turkey stands on the promises of US+KSA+ISRAEL none of them will support Turkey in any conflict against Russia +China+ Iran +sirya ?
Alone USA won't go for a war , which they have yo fought equaly matched Russia ?
For Turkey they have that lollipop kind of fake promises of getting it into stupid eruro-zone that's where all of these wet dreams stops ?
USA & its stupid allies were wrong in arming anti-asad , Saddam ,qadafi +Taliban forces it all went terribly wrong ?
Instead they have supported turkeys own devils Kurds to pressure turkey for its hidden support to their pets called ISIS?
BUT for now Russia has moved in to stop this maddnes which will divide this world on the terms of few , for few by few ?
New world order has been challenged , & its about to fall .

 

[Serpentine]

i am asking apoligize for this didnt focus on it .

No need for apology.

You know that terrorist definition is so flexible, ie All groups in syria is terrorists for Assad as well as Russia , PKK isnt a terrorist organizaiton for Iran but does for Turkey, same to PYD for Syria. But based on your logic,

I would support only if Russia honestly coming to defeat IS along with others and then inviting people to talk over issue and make negotiations. Airspace violation is a result their showing off against West they didnt come anything else than " showing off" invitation of Esed is just a cover, else than this they should really shutdown their aviation activities if they are having navigation issues in bombing sorties .

No I don't consider all of them as terrorists. There is a legitimate opposition in Syria, those who are not nutjobs. Although they are weak militarily, but they can be empowered politically. But there are many other real terrorists out there, and believe me, ISIS is not alone. It's amazing how people have forgotten that Nusra is the same Al-Qaeda, only because it has tried to save face by not doing what it did in Afghanistan and Yemen, but they still couldn't hide all of their face.

 

[batmannow]

i am asking apoligize for this didnt focus on it .

You know that terrorist definition is so flexible, ie All groups in syria is terrorists for Assad as well as Russia , PKK isnt a terrorist organizaiton for Iran but does for Turkey, same to PYD for Syria. But based on your logic,

I would support only if Russia honestly coming to defeat IS along with others and then inviting people to talk over issue and make negotiations. Airspace violation is a result their showing off against West they didnt come anything else than " showing off" invitation of Esed is just a cover, else than this they should really shutdown their aviation activities if they are having navigation issues in bombing sorties .

Did US of A honestly armed ISIS to fight. Asad ?lol
& isn't CIA is the worlds biggest terrorist network ? Arming ISIS , & all others in thus world ?

Sorry its not that easy,
"Even" Hitler preffered to not touch turkey in the weakest times .

So who is Putin ? to real world.

Hitler didn't had what , Putin has now in his hands , I mean the worlds largest nuclear arms & his finger on the red button ?
Wake up , no more euro-zone dream world kid !

 

[ptldM3]

NATO can go screw itself I suppose. Wasn't it violating of another country's sovereignty when another NATO country (Turkey) actively sent mercenaries, arms and funds to a neighboring country to further destabilize it? Not only they didn't protest, but they actually did the same in Syria to some extent. So they are the last one who should be talking about border violation.

Erdogan is on fire over Russian move in Syria, you can feel it in his speeches in past days. The Muslim Brotherhood gang (Erdogan+Qatar) are disappointed.

And the funniest part? The western countries are protesting Russia over bombing official branch of Al-Qaeda in Syria and similar groups, the world has some amazing twists in it.

NATO aircraft violate foreign airspace on a daily basis not only that but they are constantly bombing or shooting down other aircraft when they do. It doesn't mater if it's Syria, Yemen, Iraq, ect. Now countries such as the US are throwing tantrums long after the Russians admitted to the violation and apologized.

 

[Neptune]

Clear yourself for this time , there is no cold war here anymore & the geo dynamics has changed long ago ?
Turkey stands on the promises of US+KSA+ISRAEL none of them will support Turkey in any conflict against Russia +China+ Iran +sirya ?
Alone USA won't go for a war , which they have yo fought equaly matched Russia ?
For Turkey they have that lollipop kind of fake promises of getting it into stupid eruro-zone that's where all of these wet dreams stops ?
USA & its stupid allies were wrong in arming anti-asad , Saddam ,qadafi +Taliban forces it all went terribly wrong ?
Instead they have supported turkeys own devils Kurds to pressure turkey for its hidden support to their pets called ISIS?
BUT for now Russia has moved in to stop this maddnes which will divide this world on the terms of few , for few by few ?
New world order has been challenged , & its about to fall .

KSA?? Nobody in NATO gives a phuck about KSA thus they may have political high stance but that doesn't mean they are mighty. They're not even a regional power. There's no country in ME that follows his own agenda no matter true or not except for Iran, Israel and Turkey.

FYI, we don't favor EU bid, some of us do but the majority don't. We needed a roadmap not a destination. And that roadmap was EU accession. Thanks to that we do now live in a life standard in our homeland at least two times better, safer and freer than any muslim majority country, thus we don't have any oil.

Back to topic which is Russian actions that drugs warmonger civilians all over the internet; I asked you and I am asking you again, Not just cold war but from 1952 to today; whenever we were in trouble facing with a conventional threat, was NATO there with its all might or not? Please also put a proper source attached; which definitely is not PressTv or RussiaToday.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Confirmed shotdown of Russian aircraft

Muhalifler Rusya uçağını düşürdü !

Putin should be very careful. He will loose a good partner.

 

[Neptune]

There are so many ''experts'' about the NATO-Turkey issue in PDF, funny that they all repeat eachother...

Of course there's no emotions and interests come first mate but as you said:

For Syrian SCUDs, they said in PDF nobody was gonna do sth about it, they sent 6 PAC-3+ batteries..

When recon plane was shot, they said in PDF we were alone, 72 hours after the incident, US NAVFORMED sent destroyer squadron and USS Abraham Lincoln to Eastern Mediterranean and Britain had sent an additional Eurofighter squadron on standby when there was no campaign against ISIS, the squadron was pulled back after mass military buildup by KKK.

and now, "Şekil A" yukarıda

 

[bsruzm]

You expect a flanker to drop flares for show? The incident was likely an accident. Even if it happens again Turkey will do nothing because they would be

First it isn't a flanker but a Russian junk related to a*sheads in Syria, MIG-23 probably and then you are now warned, we see what happens

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Good that Israel is our partner behind the doors. You cant trust Arabs and Farsi.

@Neptune You know even Nikita Chrustschow had not the balls to boil with nukes .
If Russia will dare to boil us, the whole globe will be destroyed with falldown.
On the conventional field we are superior to them, of course with NATO.

 

[-------]

Do it again Ruskies, we gots the antidote for your misbehaviours

 

[batmannow]

KSA?? Nobody in NATO gives a phuck about KSA thus they may have political high stance but that doesn't mean they are mighty. They're not even a regional power. There's no country in ME that follows his own agenda no matter true or not except for Iran, Israel and Turkey.

FYI, we don't favor EU bid, some of us do but the majority don't. We needed a roadmap not a destination. And that roadmap was EU accession. Thanks to that we do now live in a life standard in our homeland at least two times better, safer and freer than any muslim majority country, thus we don't have any oil.

Back to topic which is Russian actions that drugs warmonger civilians all over the internet; I asked you and I am asking you again, Not just cold war but from 1952 to today; whenever we were in trouble facing with a conventional threat, was NATO there with its all might or not? Please also put a proper source attached; which definitely is not PressTv or RussiaToday.

Has NATO saved others from Russia ?lol
Do we need to get any prof that , Russia is fully capable of doing what & when it wants ?
I mean , I am not in a funny mood ?
Do you think , there is no importance of KSA to US or its allies even to NATO ?
KSA has the religious importance to all the Muslims in the world other then that its the richest of all of the ME countries ?
KSA Israel , & USA has mutual designs for the region , which they wants to share with huge oil reserves accross the ME?
BTW who is buying oil from ISIS , it KSA & do you imagine where this money is going ?

what the hell is NATO ?
its 70% USA military muscle which was made believed as a protector of the Europe by whom ?
Its just UK after world war 2 , they were the deciders of everything on behalf of whole Europe ?
So , NATO is USA 70% & REST OF others are 30% , if USA isn't ready to stop Russia in sirya & then ISIS & its CIA sponsored supplies from Turkish borders ?
then be sure no one can stop ,, Russia to do whatever & when ever it wants to do ?