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Russian warplane violates Turkish airspace

Well, what about Pakistan (your frontline ally) in 1971? We did request your help, however, what we got was hot air.....

Air then, air now......... nothing more, nothing less.......... you people are used to ONLY firing guns on others shoulders, unless you find a willing shoulder, you won't do squat. Simple as that.

State department can do the usual 'huff and puff', candidates can do all the talk, ratings can swing both ways, however, when push comes to shove, you'll always look for the sacrificial goat, and unless you find it, you'll stay cosy within Pacific and Atlantic.

The Philippines did not request our help on scarborough shoal nor was there any fighting. a masterful move by China, but says nothing about our willingness to abide our treaty obligations.
 
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You must know that Turkish Airspace belongs to NATO airspace controlled from RAMSTEIN base in Germany.
Russia agreed today with Baghdad to fly airstrikes in Iraq.
The USA stopped today all intelligence sharing with the Iraqi Government.
A very dangerous game has started.

Hi,

You guys were mad at my comments a few months ago----.

Tell me now---how fast does the trouble grows---? In the blink of an eye----things go out of control----.

So---how much have you guys spent out of your pockets so far---. 8---10 Billions Dollars by now----and no end in sight. And I am not talking about the military issues and strikes.
 
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The russians are not fools to challenge the NATO air crafts in that region. Russians know that they are at serious disadvantage over syria as far as the air combat is concerned.In case of a full blown aerial engagement handful of russian sukhois won't last for more then a few hours against the NATO air forces. NATO will also be reluctant to engage russian jets as it may lead to a full scale war. Anyways good job so far by the russian jets. Keep up the good work by bombing the terrorists in the area but please avoid any stupidity

and what if russian jets are not just handful?
 
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So you wanna say that the russian jets are reproducing in syria by "binary fission"??

no, what if the entire russian air force gets involved in the conflict and it lead to a full scale war between russia and its ally and NATO?
 
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Man everyone in the world saw what happened in Crimea (now Russian territory). And in Scarborough shoal (now Chinese territory).

America blew tons of smoke, but nothing else. Russia and China took action, and territories changed hands.

And yes, North Korea regularly threatens to nuke America (seems to be a ritual for them), however their capability is nowhere close to that of Russia.

You'll have to wait a few years before North Korea actually has the capability to carry out their threats.

Again, the US does not have a defence treaty with Ukraine, they have typically been in the Russian sphere of influence, and that only changed very recently.

I still don't know why the Philippines did not request US support, nor more bafflingly why they did not involve their navy. They knew they were outmatched, but being willing to shed blood for your territory has nothing to do with how matched you are, the US knows that very well.

The US can't have pressured the Philippines, otherwise they would not be debating reopening Subic bay, in fact they would surely have taken a different tack in that case.

Russia took Crimea, but the US 'took' Ukraine. None of our commitments or our alliances have been jeopardized by Crimea or Scarborough, Russia has been marginalized in Europe, China is giving the US a big boost in its pivot.

Ultimately what do these small parcels of land matter to the US? We care about our commitments which are one of the pillars of the US hegemony, and they have not been threatened by these actions, rather they have placed our treaties back in the spotlight, and brought about the warming of relations between old adversaries!

Im hardly worried about Nork nuclear capability, we are on the other side of the ocean and have the means to intercept it. You should be worried though, China is right next door, and given your troubles with the Norks, a nuclear armed north Korea wouldn't be good for China.

You couldn't exactly invade and topple their regime to replace it with an actual puppet without expecting a couple hundred thousand dead.

I'm even less worried about nuclear war with Russia than I am North Korea.
 
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Dude, you're nothing but an Islamist hiding under the garb of a nationalist.......... don't try to justify Emperor Erdogan's Islamist plans with that of neutralizing PKK. We, who love Turkey, know very well that PKK is evil, however, we also know that you just got played by the West.
You have no idea about Turkish policy!
Turkish did the right thing, and it is in a different position than Pakistan was almost 30 years ago..
Turkey produce its own high end technologies.. In 2-3 years, Turkey will also produce its own anti aircraft weapons which is prototype and testing was just finished recently. Thats why, i believe, Russia will have short impact time but later, they have to leave the area.. Once, there would be videos showing down Russian jets, they will not have more choices..
Russia will never risk to go for a full scale war with Turkey, Turkey can also army Ukrain and make huge trouble for Russia..
 
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Nobody is starting WW3 because Syria, chill out.

Also, Turkey won't be shooting anything down, if a tragic "mistake" should happen and one of the Russian jets goes down, the Americans will be the ones to do it. Of course, if that's to happen, later on another tragic mistake might happen to a American or Turkish jet.
Tit for Tat and things go on as usual.
 
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Turkey can also arm the Martians and declare war on Andromeda galaxy. My bad, I obviously had no idea about the hightechiness of Turkish science and technology. Kindly enlighten me so that I can set my mind free.

You have no idea about Turkish policy!
Turkish did the right thing, and it is in a different position than Pakistan was almost 30 years ago..
Turkey produce its own high end technologies.. In 2-3 years, Turkey will also produce its own anti aircraft weapons which is prototype and testing was just finished recently. Thats why, i believe, Russia will have short impact time but later, they have to leave the area.. Once, there would be videos showing down Russian jets, they will not have more choices..
Russia will never risk to go for a full scale war with Turkey, Turkey can also army Ukrain and make huge trouble for Russia..
 
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Oh no. You really don't? Ah well. Au revoir! :D

Don't shed tears when Arabs come and make love to you........ arab style, as Emperor Erdogan and his voters will be pretty darn happy with it, don't know about rest of unsuspecting Turkish citizens! :cheesy:

I don't 'need' your miserable friendship so shut the f*ck up and get the f*ck out, did you get it now? :victory1:
 
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When you're grown up and very well travelled, you'll come to the same conclusion as I have. It's a pity that I don't know ANYTHING about Turkish history, politics and technical abilities.......... :p:

That's your problem, I have seen some of your posts before :lol:
I met many honest and brave Arabic people. I can't name a whole group of people but those sneaky people living between them as we see some in PDF, I assure you there are a lot of Arabs who would like to kill those sneakies first in reality :D
Anyways :offtopic:
 
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You should stay out when two Turks are roughing it out......... namely me and few others, else you will become the target of my affection..... and you know very well how toxic that can be for your health! :D

Still much better than turkish ISIS cheerleaders and wahabi allies:rap:
 
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