Russian warplane violates Turkish airspace

[Hurshid Celebi]

@flamer84 Don't offset. Russia has much to loose. Read the post of a Pakistani member what happened when Russia tried the same at the Afghan- Pakistan boarder.

Almost 20 confirmed down shots of Russian jets, no Pakistani casualties. Same will happen in Near East.

You know how easy Israel could performed and performs air raides in Syria without losses. Same can do Türkiye.

 

[Azeri440]

If Obama had a spine he would help the "legitimate" Ukrainian goverment with an air campaign against the rebels in Donbass.Just like the Russiasn model in Syria.Unfortunately,he doesn't-this would have been a good oportunity to call Putin's bluff.

Obama is probably the most useless president US has had

 

[batmannow]

Blah,blah,blah.........The Jews shot Russian Migs with Russian pilots in them,down and not a single f4ck was given that day .The Georgians shot down Russian planes to and no nuclear weapon was fired in anger.If they keep intruding on Turkish air space they will be shot down .End of story ? Only the retarded children on PDF think that nuclear war will follow if a Russkie rust bucket swallows an AMRAAM for violating Turkish air space.

Oh,and Russia will have a tough time on taking Turkey on in a direct conventional war to,especially on its home turf and in the Black Sea.You cheerleaders should take a chill pill.

Sure you are still impressed by John Rambo ?lol
Try to shot russian MIGs next time ,instead of bla ,bla bla ?Lol
Let's see even in a convential war how many hours turkey can defend its main cities out of Russian reach ?
Do you know , even with out using any of its air force Russia can still rain medium range blastic missiles which it not buys from any one ?lol
I guess , confrontation won't be any option , for turkey against mighty Russia ?
Not now & never , even if the whole red air force fly past by whole Turkey ?
Cause you never know on which of its planes which of missiles , Russians might have forgot to take out nuclear war head ?lol
Where does Georgia & ukrain stands today ?lol
Thanks kid for your blA bla , bla !
While your Jew brothers are very desperate to see Russia standing like a rock against their ambitions to rule the Arab world using proxies ?Lil
Why Turkey has accepted that dam Jewish state oh , I forgot that can let turkey into euro-zone ?
That's the reality of Turkish dream ?

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Sure you are still impressed by John Rambo ?lol
Try to shot russian MIGs next time ,instead of bla ,bla bla ?Lol
Let's see even in a convential war how many hours turkey can defend its main cities out of Russian reach ?
Do you know , even with out uning any of its air force Russia can still rain medium range blastic missiles which it not buys from any one ?lol
I guess , confrontation won't be any option , for turkey against mighty Russia ?
Not now & never , even if the whole red air force fly past by whole Turkey ?
Cause you never know on which of its missiles , Russians might have forgot to take out nuclear war head ?
Where does Georgia & ukrain stands today ?lol

Nuke player ? Nothing more against Turkey ? What about AEGIS umbrella in Mediterranean and Black Sea ? And a severe strike back against Russian cities . Turkish KC- tankers are ready and all Russian black sea cities are in Turkish Range.

 

[batmannow]

PDF keyboard warriors should calm down, there will be no war between Turkey and Russia.There has always been times when another country violated what another country considers its airspace, for example the U.S has done this quite a few times with China, Russia has done this with Japan/Sweden/Finland/Norway, US jets have violated Russian airspace as well, etc etc. All this have been done and settled without any war whatsoever. So i don't see why a few Russian violation of Turkey's airspace should bring about a war.

Problem is that Russians has started gathering airel intelligence on the Turkish side , to find out routes of supplies & troops movement of CIA+MOSAD+KSA +TURKEY sponsored terrorists called ISIS & that's what fearing Turkey most ?
If found , they will be exposed but surly will be attacked by Russian ?

Nuke player ? Nothing more against Turkey ? What about AEGIS umbrella in Mediterranean and Black Sea ? And a severe strike back against Russian cities . Turkish KC- tankers are ready and all Russian black sea cities are in Turkish Range.

Lol
Sure USA needs turkey to invade Russia ?lol

 

[Oublious]

If a person like batmannow become a elite member of pdf, then this show us what the level is. Stop answering that boy, he is comparing russian with battlefield scenario. My ball his bigger then you, no logic so stop asnwering that stupid. The topic is turning is big bal contest.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

If a person like batmannow become a elite member of pdf, then this show us what the level is. Stop answering that boy, he is comparing russian with battlefield scenario. My ball his bigger then you, no logic so stop asnwering that stupid. The topic is turning is big bal contest.

Yes thats dubious I asked Hakan also and could not get an answer, it depends on Vitamin - B

 

[Kamil_baku]

Let's see if Turkey wants or will shoot down a Russian jet. Talking is one thing, acting is another.

lets see if Russia will take a risk to violate the Turkish airspace again...

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Please use the proper term when addressing his highness Sultan Tayyip Erdoğan.

His Highness Sultan of Türkiye warned the Czar of Russia and the Mullah in Teheran not to loose Turkeys friendship !

Better ?

 

[Curious_Guy]

Quite eye opening to see that a lot of Pakistani are rooting for Russia while Russia is violating Turkish air space.

Pakistanis would never choose Russia over Turkey . People of this region have been backing Turkey even before Independence ... but we like russia in context of US/Russia conflict because most of us hate US

 

[atatwolf]

If a person like batmannow become a elite member of pdf, then this show us what the level is. Stop answering that boy, he is comparing russian with battlefield scenario. My ball his bigger then you, no logic so stop asnwering that stupid. The topic is turning is big bal contest.

You either have to be a Pakistani or a Chinese to become a "elite member" or a "think-tank". It doesn't matter if you are the biggest imbecile.

 

[Azeri440]

Man everyone in the world saw what happened in Crimea (now Russian territory). And in Scarborough shoal (now Chinese territory).

America blew tons of smoke, but nothing else. Russia and China took action, and territories changed hands.

And yes, North Korea regularly threatens to nuke America (seems to be a ritual for them), however their capability is nowhere close to that of Russia.

You'll have to wait a few years before North Korea actually has the capability to carry out their threats.

1. When did US say they would defend Ukraine's sovereignty ? People blew it out of proportion because US "condemned" Russian acts in Ukraine.

2. @anon45 already gave you the response regarding Scarborough , but you keep repeating it like a broken record.

3. Turkey is one of the strongest nations in NATO , if (which will never happen) Russia decided to attack Turkey , they will need to dedicate their whole army for the cause or most of their military at least, giving US the once in a lifetime chance to weaken and deal with their biggest threat in the last and current century.

but like I said , Russians are not suicidal neither are Turks , and honestly the media is blowing this out of proportion like they always do.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

N-TV live 23:50 TT

Analysis of Prof. Mesut Casin ( Strategical and International Affairs) retired Air Force Officer and consultant of the Government of Turkish Republic:

1. It was not a good gesture and timing to withdraw NATO and US Patriots from Türkiye

2. Even alone without NATO Türkiye can fight with Russia, Russia knows this for sure

3. Our last war was 1917 , Russia occupied Crimea and their army was at the doors of Istanbul,
but they had to share bread with us, cause they had no logistic support

4. During independence war we fought against Imperial Powers and Soviets supported our war

5. Stalin destroyed good relations claiming the Bosporus straits and 3 East Provinces of Türkiye

6. Up to 1991 the relations were bad and then improved, today we have 40 Billion USD trade and it is improving

7. We have a gentleman's agreement not to support terrorists, if Russia break this agreement Russia will be confronted with severe terrorism in Caucasian and Crimean Region

8. Russia will loose his influence on the Balkans

9. Türkiye would close the Bosporus due to Montreux treaty and will do it in combat case

10. If Russia wants an naval base in Tartus we said them in Ankara, we would agree and could work on it,

but Russia wants a Mikro-Nassuri State which will illegal be annected as Crimea

11. Russia violates all rules of the UN - Security council, if that council collaps,
Russia will be burried under its ruins

12. If Russia wants realy fight IS /DAES we invited them before to come to Diyarbakir AB
and let us do it together and coordinated

13. We know the weapon systems they brought to Syria and of course all ECM systems

14. Russia has much to loose but less to win, it is not worth that risk

15. They know the power of our air-force and Navy, they have no chance in air combat and Naval combat,
Land attack is impossible

16. No country would begin a nuclear war if it will not be attacked nuclear

17. If Russia conducts Missile attacks on Türkiye, we have equivalent means to strike back in whole
Black-sea Region on Russian territory


Summary of Prof . Casin :

We want friendly relations with Russia, but Türkiye will even without NATO protect its interests;
if necessary and diplomacy channels are closed with military power !


@levina

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

incident involved a Sukhoi-30 fighter which crossed the Syrian-Turkish border "for a few seconds" due to "unfavorable weather conditions".

Hmm...an "all-weather" weakness?

 

[Daneshmand]

Saudis and the US need to pay the price of their adventurism, best Turkish foreign policy in such a state should be to abstain from any adventurism on their behalf.

Both Pakistan and Iran had cautioned Turkey over this issue: Pakistan warns Turkey: Don’t make our mistakes

Turks chose to ignore the brotherly advice. They chose to follow the NATO policies for Syria.

Now, Turks can not say, "we did not know". They did it consciously fully knowing what they were getting into.