Russian warplane violates Turkish airspace

[Hurshid Celebi]

Look at my previous post, I added more information while you posted this reply. I researched Isis the first time I heard of them, nothing your saying is new. With Turkey's help Isis festured into what it is today.

As for your your statement about borders and Russia. The fighters that leave Russia for Syria don't tell Russian authorities that they are leaving to fight in Syria. Where as the Turkish authorities help jihadists cross the border.

FSB believes for sure they go for tourism . BS

 

[ptldM3]

Visit a Syrian refugee (Turkey hosts more than 2 million, and 3 million more expected to flee Syria, thanks to Ruskies) and tell him these that you are a drunk Russian, who supports a*shead regime in his fight against terrorism(?) and Turkey is directly responsible of your blood then see what happens


@Dr.Thrax

This Ruskie claim we are the ones who destabilized Syria and who support ISIS.
What do you think, bro? Should we ...?

Sending a bunch of lunatic jihadists into another country is not destabilization?

 

[xenon54 out]

Look at my previous post, I added more information while you posted this reply. I researched Isis the first time I heard of them, nothing your saying is new. With Turkey's help Isis festured into what it is today.

Its baseless assumption.

As for your your statement about borders and Russia. The fighters that leave Russia for Syria don't tell Russian authorities that they are leaving to fight in Syria. Where as the Turkish authorities help jihadists cross the border.

Pls provide your source for Turkey helping jihadists crossing to Syria.

 

[ptldM3]

FSB believes for sure they go for tourism . BS

Yes the FSB is in on the conspiracy...sarcasm. Rissia arrests anyone suspected of going to fight in Syria or anyone that returns from Syria.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Yes the FSB is in on the conspiracy...sarcasm. Rissia arrests anyone suspected of going to fight in Syria or anyone that returns from Syria.

Thats good news, if true.

@ptldM3 Believe me it will be not easy going for Russia on that terrain. I hope that it will not escalate.

 

[Bratva]

Sending a bunch of lunatic jihadists into another country is not destabilization?

And what about helping Ukranian separatists ? Is it kosher ?

 

[The Ultranationalist]

Turks are behaving as if some girls are being "harassed" by street boys. Come on give them what they want. Shoot one of them down and no one will "harass" your jets.
Actually this is the first time i have seen the word" harass" being used for fighter jets. Fighter jets are made to kill or to get shot down but not "harassed".According to my dictionary harass to sirf bachian hoti hain. I have limited vocabulary though

here russians did not wanted to shoot f16s down but they locked on turkish jets just to scare them. it was a warning i think what is being refferd to as harrassment.

 

[xenon54 out]

And what about helping Ukranian separatists ? Is it kosher ?

It absolutely is, including shooting down passenger planes.

 

[ptldM3]

Its baseless assumption.

Pls provide your source for Turkey helping jihadists crossing to Syria.

Turkey accused of allowing Islamic State fighters to cross its border ...


All It Takes To Cross From Turkey To ISIS-Held Syria Is $25

 

[xenon54 out]

Turkey accused of allowing Islamic State fighters to cross its border ...

Thats your source?

Kurdish witnesses say Isil jihadists slipped over Turkish border before launching car bomb attack in Kobane

All It Takes To Cross From Turkey To ISIS-Held Syria Is $25

Ohh there are smugglers just like on almost any other border of the world, im truly shocked, thats the evidence that Turkey is helping isis....

 

[xperia]

here russians did not wanted to shoot f16s down but they locked on turkish jets just to scare them. it was a warning i think what is being refferd to as harrassment.

The russians are not fools to challenge the NATO air crafts in that region. Russians know that they are at serious disadvantage over syria as far as the air combat is concerned.In case of a full blown aerial engagement handful of russian sukhois won't last for more then a few hours against the NATO air forces. NATO will also be reluctant to engage russian jets as it may lead to a full scale war. Anyways good job so far by the russian jets. Keep up the good work by bombing the terrorists in the area but please avoid any stupidity

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

We should concentrate on the real thread.

Update :

- US Defence Minister Ashton Carter announced a harder non tolerant behavior and reaction against Russia

- NATO will meet Thursday for a urgent crisis meeting

- NATO Secretary Stoltenberg said that it was no an accidental act, it was one of the severest incidents of the last years

- Turkish President said live from Brussels Türkiye would protect his boarders and that it was a severe hostile act

- US Secretary of State said that RUSSIA bombs FSA opposition and not IS / DEAS

- USA deployed new fighter jets in Diyarbakir and Incirlik AFB together with CSAR helos and SF teams

2500 US soldiers deployed to Türkiye

- Russia tries to establish a no fly zone in Syria and North Iraq

 

[flamer84]

And what about helping Ukranian separatists ? Is it kosher ?

If Obama had a spine he would help the "legitimate" Ukrainian goverment with an air campaign against the rebels in Donbass.Just like the Russiasn model in Syria.Unfortunately,he doesn't-this would have been a good oportunity to call Putin's bluff.

- Russia tries to establish a no fly zone in Syria and North Iraq

Which will make Turkey helpless in bombing the PKK outside its borders thus creating basic save heavens for the Kurd terrorists just next to its border.

@atatwolf 's dreams of getting benefits from both blocks come to an ignaminious end

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Many posters here forget that Ukraine is not so strategical important as Türkiye.
In Ukraine the legal government was couped by EU led people and paramilitaries from Poland and some other countries.
"Remember US State Departments statement ( monitored from FSB) : Who the fvk wants EU here !"

Don't forget the CUBA crisis ! It happened cause the deployment of JUPITER missiles in Türkiye.

Nobody should write fairy tales about Russian engagement against IS/DAES and humanitarian engagement.
It is only real policy, Russia wants to secure his last base in the Mediterranean to show flag and that is only possible with ESAD.
If Irak will join and accept Russian help. Irak will completely bleed out.

 

[Bratva]

If Obama had a spine he would help the "legitimate" Ukrainian goverment with an air campaign against the rebels in Donbass.Just like the Russiasn model in Syria.Unfortunately,he doesn't-this would have been a good oportunity to call Putin's bluff.



Which will make Turkey helpless in bombing the PKK outside its borders thus creating basic save heavens for the Kurd terrorists just next to its border.

@atatwolf 's dreams of getting benefits from both blocks come to an ignaminious end

Putin is running a one man show, No media to criticize, no liberal public to be offended by his callous acts. If they raise concerns, they will be disappeared or worse killed.

Whereas Obama is a puppet of congress, american free and liberal public. He tries to balance his acts so no to offend severly