Russian Su-57 Fighter Jet Much Cheaper Than US F-35 - Manufacturer

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

now the most economy powerful nations

America more powerful than Russia? Doubt it. They can't even beat rag tag Taliban let alone the world's biggest country.

 

[Georg]

America more powerful than Russia? Doubt it. They can't even beat rag tag Taliban let alone the world's biggest country.

LOL

like the Russian who also tryed 10 years to win... and lost... fanboy often forget this little fact... no comment to the completely silly other claims... the only right claim is tha Russia is the worlds biggest country by size... little hope for your small brain

 

[sathya]

you know that your wiki list is shit...

try the one from the world bank

military budget in % of GDP 2017
1. Oman 12.0%
2. Saudi Arabia 10.2%
3. Algeria 5.9%
4. Kuwait 5.7%
5. Congo Rep. 5.6%
6. Jordan 4.8%
7. Israel 4.7%
8. Lebanon 4.7%
9. Russia 4.2%
10. Bahrain 4.0%

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.GD.ZS?year_high_desc=true

now the most economy powerful nations
USA 3.1%
France 2.2%
China 1.9%
UK 1.8%
Italy 1.5%
Germany 1.2%
Japan 0.9%

Please don't forget to add India & Pakistan in any statistics .
Most readers are interested in that .

 

[Georg]

Please don't forget to add India & Pakistan in any statistics .
Most readers are interested in that .

I added the link to the world bank data... one click and you are happy

 

[Dai Toruko]

by contrast Germany spends $ 44.2billion in 2017 which is only 1.2% of the GDP

The Bundeswehr really is underfunded and largely ill-equipped with old hardware used for basic training which won't even be utilised in actual warfare.
Also the restruction of the whole conduct and training system in order to incentivise new recruits gradually made the forces more into a holiday scout camp.

 

[Georg]

The Bundeswehr really is underfunded and largely ill-equipped with old hardware used for basic training which won't even be utilised in actual warfare.
Also the restruction of the whole conduct and training system in order to incentivise new recruits gradually made the forces more into a holiday scout camp.

old hardware compared to who... the new order?

The most modern tank(technical standart 1985) in active service in the Turkish Army was phased out in the German Army in the mid 1990... and the successor is also already completely replaced...

What old hardware does the Bw run?

Leo2 A6M?
Leo2 A7?
Leo2 A7V?
Puma?
Marder?(on the way getting phased out)
Wiesel II?
PzH2000?
Boxer?
Dingo?
Fennek?
Eurofighter?
NH90?
Tiger?
Bison?
MARS?
Fuchs?
A400M?
Sea Lynx?
CH-53?
EC135?
Eagel?
Patriot?
Ozelot?
Global Hawk?
Keiler?
Dachs?
Büffel 3?

let me ask you the question how the German Teams are able to finish 2x 1th place and 1x 2th place at the strong european tank challenge? Against nations like

USA
France
UK
Austria
Sweden
Ukraine
Italy
Bulgaria
Poland
etc.

with all that shit old hardwaer and outdated training....

 

[Dai Toruko]

old hardware compared to who... the new order?

The most modern tank(technical standart 1985) in active service in the Turkish Army was phased out in the German Army in the mid 1990... and the successor is also already completely replaced...

What old hardware does the Bw run?

Leo2 A6M?
Leo2 A7?
Leo2 A7V?
Puma?
Marder?(on the way getting phased out)
Wiesel II?
PzH2000?
Boxer?
Dingo?
Fennek?
Eurofighter?
NH90?
Tiger?
Bison?
MARS?
Fuchs?
A400M?
Sea Lynx?
CH-53?
EC135?
Eagel?
Patriot?
Ozelot?
Global Hawk?
Keiler?
Dachs?
Büffel 3?

let me ask you the question how the German Teams are able to finish 2x 1th place and 1x 2th place at the strong european tank challenge? Against nations like

USA
France
UK
Austria
Sweden
Ukraine
Italy
Bulgaria
Poland
etc.

with all that shit old hardwaer and outdated training....

- The Eurofighter Typhoon is a costly toy that the Luftwaffe doesn't really need. By the time the Typhoon made its maiden flight, the Saab Gripen had most of its kinks worked out already, its cost is half that of the EF in both acquisition and maintenance and completely sufficient for the Luftwaffe's requirements.

- Speaking of Typhoons, only 8 of the 100+ are combat ready at a given time, exactly what is needed for the two QR flights + backups. If the enemy comes a-knocking, they better do so with enough heads-up. - The fairly new MH90 may not fly over sea water, lest it instantly start rusting. Apparently, noone foresaw the remote possibility of a naval helicopter encountering salt water.

- The A400M is not brand new. Its maiden flight was ten years ago, having been stuck in development hell since the 90's. There's nothing groundbreaking about it, it serves the same purpose as the vast majority of all planes, "carry shit from point A to point B".

- With the decommissioning of the Gepard (AAA turret on Leopard I chassis) and Roland (SAM on Marder chassis), there are no AFV's with serious AA capacity. The only AA is now stationary or shoulder-mounted (good'ol Stinger).

- Last but not least, the new frigate class 'Baden-Württemberg' is a cluster ****. Protective paint that will jump off the hull if you look at it funny, malfunctioning software, deficiencies in fire security. Last month, the lead ship was returned to the yard for a complete overhaul, straight from the shakedown cruise in the Baltic. According to the crew, it is a "complete disappointment".

I know a few guys in the force who can expand this list ad nauseam. The suppliers and developers are phoning it in at every turn and not suffering any consequences. One big factor in this seems to be the Defence Ministry's legal department who reportedly rely on garden-variety contract forms that don't even mention 'contractual penalties'.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

its cost is half that of the EF in both acquisition and maintenance

No shit. Gripen isn't even the same size class as Typhoon. Gripen is Tejas sized. Typhoon is F-18 sized.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Maybe 50 to 100. Depends on how much they want to spend on military.

They spend billions of $$$$$$$$$ for developing Su-57 and you tell us 50/100 will be enough for russia, look at the size of russia, in my understanding they/russian needs at least 400/500 Su-57 for defense of russia @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

They spend billions of $$$$$$$$$ for developing Su-57 and you tell us 50/100 will be enough for russia, look at the size of russia, in my understanding they/russian needs at least 400/500 Su-57 for defense of russia @undertakerwwefan

1 Su-57 is as efficient as 6 Su-27. Britain only built 6 Type 045 destroyers which replaced dozens of earlier ships. The wonders of modern technology.

 

[Ultima Thule]

1 Su-57 is as efficient as 6 Su-27. Britain only built 6 Type 045 destroyers which replaced dozens of earlier ships. The wonders of modern technology.

to cover vast swath of russia, this not about tech or something, but petrol area that cover by single jet @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

to cover vast swath of russia, this not about tech or something, but petrol area that cover by single jet @undertakerwwefan

Russia has air bases at the borders. No need to patrol thousands of kilometers.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Russia has air bases at the borders. No need to patrol thousands of kilometers.

So does all countries have but between those air bases the gap is huge especially in eastern part of russia, where these air bases are scant @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

So does all countries have but between those air bases the gap is huge especially in eastern part of russia, where these air bases are scant @undertakerwwefan

No one has claim on eastern Russia. Only Japan has claim on Kurils.

 

[Ultima Thule]

No one has claim on eastern Russia. Only Japan has claim on Kurils.

It doesn't matter its claim or not by other country @undertakerwwefan , then why russian deployed Mig-31/SU-27 on those are if no country claim Eastern Russia @undertakerwwefan