Russian pilots use Idlib in northern Syria as live target practice training camp

[ptldM3]

Serving oil money. Remove oil money and all service sector will die.

Do you know what service sector means? Seriously what a dumb claim.



https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/service-sector.asp

What is the 'Service Sector'
The service sector produces intangible goods, more precisely services instead of goods, and according to the U.S. Census Bureau, it is comprised of various service industries including warehousing and truck transportation services; information sector services; commodities, securities and other investment services; professional, technical and scientific services; waste management services; health care and social assistance services; and arts, entertainment and recreation services. Countries with economies centered around the service sector are considered more advanced than industrial or agricultural economies.



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Its not money but just military equipment. Israel would survive with 18% less jets, believe me and saved money could be used for Israeli industries.

That 3.8 billion saves Israel over 3.8 billion each year. It’s the equivalence of the US giving Russia 15 billion yearly and again the the US and Germany have also provided economic aid and basically payed for Israeli defense programs.

German submarine with so called 1/3 "discount" still costs to Israel more than 440 mln $ per submarine (Russia sells submarines for 300 mln $). Plus these subs are not critical for Israel at all.

The first 2 Dolphins submarines were given to Israel for zero cost, Germany covered 50% of the cost for the 3rd Dolphins. Then 2 more Dolphins were acquired at a 1/3 discount with Germany picking up the tab again.


https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2...erman-submarines-amid-shipyard-investigation/


Russia also doesn’t sell anything for 300 million, they sold package of submarines to Vietnam (packags are cheaper) at 350 million each back in 2009. Eventually the deal was worth 3.2 billion for 6 submarines which included training and infustructe. Some individual Russian submarines cost over 1 billion each.

 

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Do you know what service sector means? Seriously what a dumb claim.

When u see how Russian ruble follows oil prices u understand that all ur economy is based on oil.

That 3.8 billion saves Israel over 3.8 billion each year. It’s the equivalence of the US giving Russia 15 billion yearly and again the the US and Germany have also provided economic aid and basically payed for Israeli defense programs.

Its not money but military equipment. Israel would not die with 18% less equipment.

The first 2 Dolphins submarines were given to Israel for zero cost, Germany covered 50% of the cost for the 3rd Dolphins. Then 2 more Dolphins were acquired at a 1/3 discount with Germany picking up the tab again.

Russia also doesn’t sell anything for 300 million, they sold package of submarines to Vietnam (packags are cheaper) at 350 million each back in 2009. Eventually the deal was worth 3.2 billion for 6 submarines which included training and infustructe. Some individual Russian submarines cost over 1 billion each.

6 subs were sold for 2 bln. Thats 330 mln per sub. While Israel in latest deal payed over 500 mln per sub from its pocket.

 

[ptldM3]

When u see how Russian ruble follows oil prices u understand that all ur economy is based on oil.


Its not money but military equipment. Israel would not die with 18% less equipment.


6 subs were sold for 2 bln. Thats 330 mln per sub. While Israel in latest deal payed over 500 mln per sub from its pocket.

No one is saying Israel won’t survive with 18% less military spending a year. I’m saying Israel is saving 3.8 billion each year because it is giving for free. Moreover, Israel received hundreds of billions in forms of aid since its inception.



https://sputniknews.com/amp/military/20100603159279455/

The Vietname submarine deal is worth 3.2 billion. Venezuela was given a credit of 1 billion towards 2 submarine.

And as of 2011 a single Yasen submarine was 1.6 billion

 

[Mhmoud]

And what about Americans? Testing out nukes on Japanese cities.

Syria isn't a Total-War situation, and therefore, a nuke was used, not tested.

But to test weapons and train on people and all they wanted was freedom is barbaric. It is savagely cruel.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

But to test weapons and train on people and all they wanted was freedom is barbaric.

Freedom isn't free. Americans sacrificed tens of thousands to have a republic. French sacrificed tens of thousands to have a republic. To have sharia, Islamists must sacrifice.

 

[Mhmoud]

Freedom isn't free. Americans sacrificed tens of thousands to have a republic. French sacrificed tens of thousands to have a republic. To have sharia, Islamists must sacrifice.

Freedom=/= Sharia. Know the difference, then talk to me.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

When u see how Russian ruble follows oil prices u understand that all ur economy is based on oil.

Russia's oil is for Russia. No need to export any of it.

Freedom=/= Sharia. Know the difference, then talk to me.

Islamists fight for sharia, their freedom. They want it. They have to sacrifice for it.

 

[Mhmoud]

Russia's oil is for Russia. No need to export any of it.



Islamists fight for sharia, their freedom. They want it. They have to sacrifice for it.

They aren't even Islamists. They are a COALITION of Islamists, other Muslims, Christians and other people wanting freedom from Tyranny. They have paid the highest toll to do so. To go out of your way to make them pay the most for their freedom isn't doing the world any good. It is the definition of sadism.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

They aren't even Islamists. They are a COALITION of Islamists, other Muslims, Christians and other people wanting freedom from Tyranny. They have paid the highest toll to do so. To go out of your way to make them pay the most for their freedom isn't doing the world any good. It is the definition of sadism.

Anarchy isn't freedom. Without a parliament there is no modern democracy. Syria has a parliament. They have nothing.

 

[Mhmoud]

Anarchy isn't freedom. Without a parliament there is no modern democracy. Syria has a parliament. They have nothing.

They have a revolutionary council, which at least actually does stuff and votes and acts against its leader at times. By contrast, that parliament is a rubber-stamp. Could just ditch it and save money.

Yes, they do want freedom. And Russia isn't letting them get it. But Syria will prevail, whatever the price.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

They have a revolutionary council, which at least actually does stuff and votes and acts against its leader at times. By contrast, that parliament is a rubber-stamp. Could just ditch it and save money.

Yes, they do want freedom. And Russia isn't letting them get it. But Syria will prevail, whatever the price.

So? No government has ever been overthrown without sacrifice.

 

[Mhmoud]

So? No government has ever been overthrown without sacrifice.

The story is about how much sacrifice is needed. Isn't 200k enough before Russia came along, isn't 500000 enough, or do the Russians want more?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

The story is about how much sacrifice is needed. Isn't 200k enough before Russia came along, isn't 500000 enough, or do the Russians want more?

600,000 Americans sacrificed in American civil war. They need to sacrifice at least 3 times as many as they have so far.

 

[Mhmoud]

600,000 Americans sacrificed in American civil war. They need to sacrifice at least 3 times as many as they have so far.

One and a half million? For a population of 22 million, that would be 12 times as many sacrifices per capita as those of the Americans already. I can see a sadist in you, and I sincerely hope you a great sacrificial session when Russia decides it wants to be democratic again.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

and I sincerely hope you a great sacrificial session when Russia decides it wants to be democratic again.

Russia has loads of natural resources per capita. It is a very rich country. It is a very stable country. No need for democracy.

BTW, rebels don't have a parliament. They have a Turkey picked president, but no parliament.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/turk...cracy-and-the-power-of-the-parliament.551784/