Russian Forces in excess of 88,000 poised on Ukraine border

[SQ8]

Polygonal border areas are pretty nice though.

Take some middle eastern states for e.g.
India attempted to annex the Shakargarh Bulge from Pakistan in 71 with the same intent. Have a straighter border that is a little easier to defend and patrol.

 

[janon]

Take some middle eastern states for e.g.
India attempted to annex the Shakargarh Bulge from Pakistan in 71 with the same intent. Have a straighter border that is a little easier to defend and patrol.

That's a bit of an inversion of history there. It was Pakistan that started hostilities in that region, not India. For two reasons -
1) Continuation of Pak's doctrine that the defence of the east lay in the west. So they initiated hostiities there to relieve pressure on the east, and to ensure that the war wouldn't be over too soon.
2) Pak army had a huge base in Sialkot, and by occupying and dominating the bulge using troops from Sialkot, India's troops in Pathankot would be cut off from Kashmir, which would enable Pakistan to take Kashmir then or later.

The result was the famous battle of Basantar that resulted in a completely unexpected but decisive Indian victory that thwarted Pak's strategic calculations on both the above two points. Quite a few Indian soldiers recieved high medals for valour, including a very young lieutenant by the name of Khetarpal, who's heroics have become the stuff of legends in India's military institutions. (The PA major who killed him, later chivalrously invited his parents to Pakistan and treated them with extreme hospitality and respect.)

 

[SQ8]

That's a bit of an inversion of history there. It was Pakistan that started hostilities in that region, not India. For two reasons -
1) Continuation of Pak's doctrine that the defence of the east lay in the west. So they initiated hostiities there to relieve pressure on the east, and to ensure that the war wouldn't be over too soon.
2) Pak army had a huge base in Sialkot, and by occupying and dominating the bulge using troops from Sialkot, India's troops in Pathankot would be cut off from Kashmir, which would enable Pakistan to take Kashmir then or later.

The result was the famous battle of Basantar that resulted in a completely unexpected but decisive Indian victory that thwarted Pak's strategic calculations on both the above two points. Quite a few Indian soldiers recieved high medals for valour, including a very young lieutenant by the name of Khetarpal, who's heroics have become the stuff of legends in India's military institutions. (The PA major who killed him, later chivalrously invited his parents to Pakistan and treated them with extreme hospitality and respect.)

No inversion of history. The issue is NOT the starting of hostilities, but rather the Indian intent. You have only reaffirmed what I wished to say in point 2.

Battle of Barapind-Jarpal 16 Dec 1971

 

[Sinnerman108]

All worldwide major media now report Russian troops numbering more than 88,000 plus tanks and attack helicopters are massed on the Ukrainian border...expected by ME as the writer of this article to invade/attack within the current 24 hours.

I wouldn't bank on "only" more economic sanctions if I were Mr. Putin.

Allies, including Turkey, are in a high state of readyness, along with Poland and all other NATO Members.

Ukraine is not a Member of NATO, of course, but NATO sees the Hitlerian style of aggression now underway and is ready to move forces into closest to the "front line" NATO nations.

Military exercises are underway .. nothing else.

Putin is trolling and badgering NATO at the moment.

 

[American Eagle]

Military exercises are underway .. nothing else.

Putin is trolling and badgering NATO at the moment.

As a retired assistant chief of staff (reserve) of HQ US Special Operations Command it is my judgement that Mr. Putin has made a huge mistake; expected to continue an uncontested take over of parts of Ukraine, now realizes he "went too far"
completely outside of International treaties Russia signed and violation of Ukraine's Constitution.

No observer right now has yet seen and validated any rushed to border Russian troops, tanks, and attack helicopters being pulled back as Russia claimed they were doing earlier today.

Hitlerian type staged massing of troops which may or may not yet happen.

Russia has lost all credibility due to this stupid trumped up move. And the Soviet Navy will still be bottled up off the Turkish Straights, a "bath tub" navy.

Russia has really screwed up and is now ruining daily it's own economy as sanctions in their case are tougher, with more devastating effect than bullets.

 

[IND151]

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