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Russian experts appeal: Russia to buy UAVs from China, do not be embarrassed not to shame
俄专家呼吁:俄罗斯向中国购买无人机,别不好意思一点都不丢人
原创 前沿哨所 2018-01-28 18:22:01
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资料图:俄罗斯的护卫舰

美国和俄罗斯一直都是世界上数一数二的武器研制大国,中国自建国以来,在武器研发上中国多受俄罗斯的提携。现在中国的很多武器装备上,都能看到俄罗斯的影子,不可否认,俄罗斯的帮助是中国军队推进现代化进程中不可回避的重要组成部分。

但值得注意的是,近年来中国的军工技术大幅提升,在多项领域更是走在了世界前端,而俄罗斯的进步却不是很明显。此消彼长之下,俄罗斯与中国的这种“师徒”关系正慢慢发生了转变。近期,甚至有俄罗斯专家呼吁俄军要向中国这个“徒弟”寻求帮助,来确保俄罗斯的军力建设。

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资料图:俄罗斯新型航母模型

由于与乌克兰的关系恶化,再加上遭受西方国家的经济制裁和武器禁运,以及本国经济不景气带来的多重打击。虽然早在2014年俄罗斯就未雨绸缪,选择了中国生产的发动机作为德国发动机的替代者。但据俄媒乐观的估计,到2025年俄罗斯的护卫舰缺口至少也在15至18艘左右。而去年中国震撼世界的“下饺子”速度,也让俄罗斯抓住了“救命稻草”。俄媒评论称,“中国将是唯一能帮助俄罗斯海军走出困境的伙伴国。”

同时,俄罗斯一直期望建造新的航母,却并没有什么向前推动的具体行动。而作为“后进生”的中国,其首艘国产航母在2017年就已下水。未来在建造航母等大型战舰方面,中国的帮助也将必不可少,而这也引得网友调侃称,俄罗斯要想推动航母项目,技术只能指望中国,但钱却可以“讹”印度的。

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资料图:彩虹5无人机

然后在近几年,中国高性能的大型无人机在全世界各地防务展上,一次次成为耀眼的明星。而这也让俄罗斯专家认为,依靠中国无人机的出口以及技术转让可以使俄罗斯快速实现无人机领域的发展。

技术的发展不是一成不变的,这也是俄中“师徒关系”变化的根本所在。随着中国军工技术的快速提高,未来俄罗斯寄希望于我们的地方也会不断增多。而优势互补也会更利于双方快速补齐各自短板,这不仅能完善本国的国防建设,甚至还可以让各自的军事力量得到质的飞跃,加深彼此关系。

Original Frontier Post 2018-01-28 18:22:01
Russian experts appeal: Russia to buy UAVs from China, do not be embarrassed not to shame

Data Picture: Russia's frigate

The United States and Russia have all along been among the largest countries in the world in the development of weapons. Since the founding of the People's Republic of China, China has been much promoted by Russia on weapons development. Now that many of China's weapons and equipment can see the shadow of Russia, it is undeniable that the help of Russia is an unavoidable part of the Chinese army's modernization drive.

However, it is worth noting that in recent years China's military technology has risen sharply and is in the forefront of the world in many fields. However, progress in Russia is not obvious. Under such a shift, the "mentoring" relationship between Russia and China is slowly changing. Recently, some Russian experts even urged that the Russian military seek help from an "apprentice" in China to ensure Russia's military construction.

Russian experts appeal: Russia to buy UAVs from China, do not be embarrassed not to shame

Data Figure: Russia's new aircraft carrier model

The deteriorating relations with Ukraine, coupled with the economic sanctions and arms embargo imposed by Western countries and the multiple blows brought about by the sluggish economy in their country. Although as early as 2014 in Russia to plan ahead, chose the Chinese-made engine as a replacement for the German engine. However, according to the optimism of Russian media, Russia's frigate ship gap will be at least 15 to 18 by 2025. Last year, China shook the world's "dumpling" speed, but also allow Russia to seize the "life-saving straw." Russian media commented that "China will be the only partner country that can help the Russian Navy out of the woods."

In the meantime, Russia has always been expecting to build a new aircraft carrier. However, there is no concrete move forward. As a "post-graduate" China, its first domestic aircraft carrier has been launched in 2017. In the future, China will find its help in the construction of large warships such as aircraft carriers. However, netizens are also being ridiculed for this. Russia wants to promote aircraft carrier projects but technology can only count on China, but money can "correct" India.

Russian experts appeal: Russia to buy UAVs from China, do not be embarrassed not to shame

Data Figure: Rainbow 5 UAV

Then in recent years, China's large-scale high-performance UAVs have become shining stars in defense exhibitions all over the world. And this also allows Russian experts to believe that relying on China's exports of unmanned aerial vehicles and technology transfer will enable Russia to rapidly realize the development in the field of drones.

The development of technology is not immutable, and it is also the fundamental reason for the change in the "mentoring relationship" between Russia and China. With the rapid advancement of China's military technology, Russia will also place more hopes on us in the future. The complementary advantages will also be more conducive to the rapid completion of their respective shortboard, which not only can improve their own national defense construction, and even allow their respective military forces to make qualitative leaps and deepen mutual relations.
 
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Overall, China is ahead of Russian in military technology.
By 2025 it would be a joke to compare China and Russia since China would be so far ahead.

@ChineseTiger1986
I do not understand why Russian buys UAV from Israel? Didnt they know Israel will tell American whatever the Russian are doing? Or Russian are naive to think that Israel will care Russo-Israel r/s more than US-Israel r/s?
 
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I do not understand why Russian buys UAV from Israel? Didnt they know Israel will tell American whatever the Russian are doing? Or Russian are naive to think that Israel will care Russo-Israel r/s more than US-Israel r/s?

Russian pride.
Since only recently China was dependent on Russia for it's best weapons, Russia is too embarrassed to admit that
China is better than them in some areas by buying weapons from China.
 
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Russian pride.
Since only recently China was dependent on Russia for it's best weapons, Russia is too embarrassed to admit that
China is better than them in some areas by buying weapons from China.
Precisely. They are no other good reason not to buy UAV from China other than pride.

Chinese UCAV is cheaper, better in surveillance and combat capabilities in terms of payload, sensor ,endurance and weapon choic. It is the prefer choice by 21 countries using Chinese UCAV. Heavily proven in Iraq fight against ISIS. Saudi is so convinced of Chinese UCAV that they spend money to buy and ToT for 300 of them.
 
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China and Russia can complemented each other's weakness with military trade and cooperation, as I said before that there is no way to win an arm race against US if both play solo: US had a huge military budget and with the fact that US had cooperated with Japan and EU regarding military technology since cold war, this had boosted US military technology progress exponentially. China and Russia share the same fate that both are lag behind US military superiority, it's in both interest to learn to trust each other for the sake of their national security. I believe China and Russia are mature to understand that only both join hand to be able to break US military and technology supremacy.
 
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China and Russia can complemented each other's weakness with military trade and cooperation, as I said before that there is no way to win an arm race against US if both play solo: US cooperated with Japan and EU regarding military technology since cold war, this had boosted US military technology exponentially. China and Russia share the same fate that both are lag behind US military superiority, it's in both interest to learn to trust each other for the sake of their national security. I believe China and Russia are mature to understand that only both join hand to be able to break US military and technology supremacy.
Russian needs to breakdown the mentally that they are still superior to Chinese. They first needs to understand, Chinese are same level as them.

They need to go beyond just buying sub system.

http://www.bestchinanews.com/Military/8790.html
 
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Russian needs to breakdown the mentally that they are still superior to Chinese. They first needs to understand, Chinese are same level as them.

They need to go beyond just buying sub system.

http://www.bestchinanews.com/Military/8790.html

It's not a problem if they feel superior, the bottom line it's we get what we want Russia get what they want, if they want to keep some high tech for themselves, China should not ask them the share that with US, same with Russia unless both willingly to put something into the table as exchange.

Build trust is crucial for Sino-Russia future cooperation, and we shouldn't be a drama queen if Russia is not willing to sell some of their core technology to China.
 
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It's not a problem if they feel superior, I don't think that is the problem, the bottom line it's we get what we want Russia get what they want, if they want to keep some high tech for themselves, China should not ask them the share that with US, same with Russia unless both willingly to put something into the table as exchange.

Build trust is crucial for Sino-Russia future cooperation, and we shouldn't be a drama queen if Russia is not willing to sell some of their core technology to China.
That is not the problem, the problem is Russia has a problem that plague them which they can solve by buying Chinese weapon and yet due to pride. They are not willing to solve the problem and allow western to mock and trample them. Russia can buy 054A frigate and CH-5 UCAV in certain number to rapidly upgrade its short coming...

But you know the reason why they refuse to do that.
 
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That is not the problem, the problem is Russia has a problem that plague them which they can solve by buying Chinese weapon and yet due to pride. They are not willing to solve the problem and allow western to mock and trample them. Russia can buy 054A frigate and CH-5 UCAV in certain number to rapidly upgrade its short coming...

But you know the reason why they refuse to do that.
It really is sad, but countries like Russia and Iran are pretty ornery by nature. If they weren't, they would have hopped into the US's pocket like the EU and Japan.
 
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It really is sad, but countries like Russia and Iran are pretty ornery by nature. If they weren't, they would have hopped into the US's pocket like the EU and Japan.
There is also reason why both countries are now quite backward and standard of living drop dramatically.

Germany are slowly living out of the shadow of US.
 
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I do not understand why Russian buys UAV from Israel? Didnt they know Israel will tell American whatever the Russian are doing? Or Russian are naive to think that Israel will care Russo-Israel r/s more than US-Israel r/s?

wrong my friend most of these are Russians Jews that live in israel. Thank you Russian jews for giving mother Russia all tech secrets from USA. rabbis dont have time for secular modern tech but secular jews do. rabbis are the ideology but secular are the technology. operation talpiot
 
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