Russian Army to hold first mountain drills with Pakistan in 2016

[PaklovesTurkiye]

TsSN FSB Spetsnaz - Marksmanship and Mountain Warfare Training near Mt Elbrus, c.2006

 

[somebozo]

Noone in India will say to any country as brother, sister, father or mother. Russia and India are and will be strategic partners. This brother, father, ummah and all is of pakistani concept, not us.

Umma love evident everywhere in Pakistan these days

 

[CHD]

...Russians are playing poker...
.....without a good hand..

They are the supplier of 80% of your defence equipment, so tell me who has the upper hand its not like you can abandon your 80% defence quipment in a month to threaten Russians and they know it

 

[shah1398]

I still cant find any mention of venue or if it wud be exclusive exercise between the two or some joint exercise amongst some SCO countries.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan are part of CSTO grouping lead by Russia.

With Iran & Pakistan moving towards Russia, Russia could easily squeeze Afghanistan.

West would now have to rely on Turkey ==> Georgia ==> Azerbaijan ==> Turkmenistan ==> Afghanistan route to protect it's interests in Afghanistan

Russia and Iran today control the Caspian sea. That is missing piece of the puzzle for the west.

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It is true that Russia would like to squeeze Afghanistan but it also does not want it to become a US back yard. Unfortunately the Russian are not liked in Afghanistan and that is the reason there is no direct link.

Moreover Russia knows that Afghans can not attack mainland Russia but can destabilize Central Asian Republics inevitably forcing Russia to send her military to protect these states.

Now this is how the new trade routes would look in the next 10-15 years.

The only link that is missing is the Urumqi - Kashgar rail connection. This is planed and would be completed along side the CPEC.

Now if Pakistan and Iran do not allow Afghanistan to connect to their infrastructure there is no future of Afghanistan.

You have mentioned Caspian Sea, that area is going to become NATO property when Georgia and Azerbaijan join. Armenia has a problem with both Turkey and Azerbaijan and they would not allow it to be part of NATO unless a compromise is possible. This is highly unlikely at the moment...

All the OIL that is available in the Caspian Sea is going to run the next century politics unfortunately most of us would not be here to see this...

Now you realize that there is an alternate route that can be seen avoiding Afghanistan.

The issue now arises why was India interested in Afghanistan (leave aside any history). India has invested heavily in Afghanistan and also in Kyrgyzstan both are land locked but they border enemy countries which can be monitored very closely and can be squeezed when the timing is correct.

However now this can not become a reality once CPEC connects Russia as India can not afford to loss her strategic partner. Now India is looking for a new strategic partner and France is the one India is hoping that could fit the shoes of Russia. However Israel is trying for more military contracts along with increasing trust with the USA.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

It is true that Russia would like to squeeze Afghanistan but it also does not want it to become a US back yard. Unfortunately the Russian are not liked in Afghanistan and that is the reason there is no direct link.

Moreover Russia knows that Afghans can not attack mainland Russia but can destabilize Central Asian Republics inevitably forcing Russia to send her military to protect these states.

Now this is how the new trade routes would look in the next 10-15 years.View attachment 289375
The only link that is missing is the Urumqi - Kashgar rail connection. This is planed and would be completed along side the CPEC.

Now if Pakistan and Iran do not allow Afghanistan to connect to their infrastructure there is no future of Afghanistan.

You have mentioned Caspian Sea, that area is going to become NATO property when Georgia and Azerbaijan join. Armenia has a problem with both Turkey and Azerbaijan and they would not allow it to be part of NATO unless a compromise is possible. This is highly unlikely at the moment...

All the OIL that is available in the Caspian Sea is going to run the next century politics unfortunately most of us would not be here to see this...

Now you realize that there is an alternate route that can be seen avoiding Afghanistan.

The issue now arises why was India interested in Afghanistan (leave aside any history). India has invested heavily in Afghanistan and also in Kyrgyzstan both are land locked but they border enemy countries which can be monitored very closely and can be squeezed when the timing is correct.

However now this can not become a reality once CPEC connects Russia as India can not afford to loss her strategic partner. Now India is looking for a new strategic partner and France is the one India is hoping that could fit the shoes of Russia. However Israel is trying for more military contracts along with increasing trust with the USA.

Where Russia has shown officially its interest in joining CPEC? Can you cite the source?
Thanks

 

[kalibr]

There is a correction to what you have said... In the 80's it was true but not today...Today the area which was once the Soviet Union is now Republics which are predominantly Muslim. So the Bear trying to enter Pakistan trough military drills and other deals is made possible by the Chinese investments in Russia and in Pakistan.

muslim only 6.5%

 

[vizier]

Russia can also benefit from the experience of Pakistan in terms of fighting terrorism. There were successful operations in waziristan and fata region and if I don't remember wrong once the army assaulted the terrorists from mountains where they wouldn't expect the attack and became successful. Foreign backing of terrorists was less then Syria but Pakistan is the single example till today that uprooted the terrorism manace in its soil and gained significant upperhand which it still protects today.

 

[dadeechi]

Where Russia has shown officially its interest in joining CPEC? Can you cite the source?
Thanks

Pak-Russia pipeline

In a clear sign of shifting global dynamics and the concomitant need for new geo-political alliances in a rapidly changing world, Pakistan’s courting of Russia is on. The historically terse relationship has recently started to thaw as Pakistan belatedly emerges out of foreign policy stagnancy rooted in the permutations of the Cold War era. The latest indicator of this renewed and mutually beneficial association is the state-to-state agreement signed between Pakistan’s Federal Minister for Petroleum and Natural Resources Shahid Khaqan Abbasi and Russia’s Minister for Energy Alexander Novak wherein Russia has agreed to build a $ 2 billion dollar North-South gas pipeline that would stretch 1,100 kilometres from Karachi to Lahore. The pipeline will have the capacity to carry 12.4 billion cubic metres of liquefied natural gas (LNG) per year and will connect terminals in Karachi with those in Lahore. Jubilant officials hail this pipeline as a game changer because they claim that until now no suitable mechanism existed to distribute gas around the country but once the pipeline is functional, imported gas will be easily transported and provided. The pipeline’s reach and the substantial volume it can carry has raised hopes that the pipeline will provide a credible solution to the deepening energy crisis by helping to enhance the generation of electricity to the tune of 3,600 Megawatts, while also serving as a kick-starter for the floundering CNG sector and providing a boon to industries. There is also talk of involving China in this project in some capacity at a later stage, in a further show of Pakistan’s increasing confidence and reliance on its more immediately located partners to come to its aid. In any case, there are embryonic plans to eventually merge this Russian built pipeline with the LNG pipeline in the western half of Pakistan being built as part of the Chinese Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). Doing so would give Pakistan an unprecedented fuel network and control over the allocation of its resources, and such a move therefore makes eminent sense. Some caution though must be injected into the overwhelmingly buoyant proceedings since the project, set to be completed in three phases, has a long way to go and the expected completion in 2020 may turn out to be wishful thinking as delays, ballooning costs, security concerns and other unforeseen obstacles are routine in such ventures and this project is too important to be compromised by impatience.

For Pakistan, the benefit of this deal is obvious enough as the easily transported gas will be much cheaper and more efficient than the fuel oil being used currently to produce electricity. Such a reduction in price and increase in production will mitigate a worsening crisis and ease the noose around the public’s neck. Furthermore, Russia as the largest oil and gas producing country has plenty of technical expertise to contribute, which would further help eliminate Pakistan’s energy shortfall. For Russia, the deal provides its state-owned energy corporation Rostec ownership and control over the management of the pipeline for 25 years, and not only does it seek to recoup substantially from this investment, this move helps it strengthen its influence in the affairs of the region. With Russia and China gaining in strength and confidence in the global arena, the relationship amongst the world powers is set to undergo a shakeup as the unipolar dominance of the US now has a definite expiry date. To assert and secure their growing status, Russia and China are on a diplomatic offensive to win over new allies. The move by Russia and Pakistan to strengthen ties comes after Russia’s traditional ally in the region, India, has moved closer to Pakistan’s traditional main backer, the US. Both countries woke up to the fickleness of international relations and have realized the need to seek new, non-exclusive alliances rather than rigidly sticking with outdated attitudes and risk being vulnerable. First the impasse with Pakistan was broken when Russia agreed to an arms deal, now the relationship has progressed to the energy sector. It is hoped that this emerging alliance does not suffer from the reversals of the past and continues to foster results in a mutually advantageous economic relationship.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/editorial/18-Oct-2015/pak-russia-pipeline

 

[Dalit]

In international arena only interests are permanent.



Guess what India don't care these.

Except a case where Russia transfers critical technologies to Pakiatan.

LOL You not only care, but are overly obsessed. The last time I checked you Indians were in a rage regarding the RD-93 engine and the Su-35 offer. Russians were supposed to be backstabbers and the Indians had found new love with the Yanks.

My username is Kal Muah not Kala Mu. Dont blame me if you cant read properly. Stop defending your racism. You are racist, agist, sexist, religionist, captitalist, dentist, exorcist.

Who really cares. Indians usually do have a black face. Nothing racist about it. Your name only confirms this.

 

[dadeechi]

It is true that Russia would like to squeeze Afghanistan but it also does not want it to become a US back yard. Unfortunately the Russian are not liked in Afghanistan and that is the reason there is no direct link.

Moreover Russia knows that Afghans can not attack mainland Russia but can destabilize Central Asian Republics inevitably forcing Russia to send her military to protect these states.

Now this is how the new trade routes would look in the next 10-15 years.View attachment 289375
The only link that is missing is the Urumqi - Kashgar rail connection. This is planed and would be completed along side the CPEC.

Now if Pakistan and Iran do not allow Afghanistan to connect to their infrastructure there is no future of Afghanistan.

You have mentioned Caspian Sea, that area is going to become NATO property when Georgia and Azerbaijan join. Armenia has a problem with both Turkey and Azerbaijan and they would not allow it to be part of NATO unless a compromise is possible. This is highly unlikely at the moment...

All the OIL that is available in the Caspian Sea is going to run the next century politics unfortunately most of us would not be here to see this...

Now you realize that there is an alternate route that can be seen avoiding Afghanistan.

The issue now arises why was India interested in Afghanistan (leave aside any history). India has invested heavily in Afghanistan and also in Kyrgyzstan both are land locked but they border enemy countries which can be monitored very closely and can be squeezed when the timing is correct.

However now this can not become a reality once CPEC connects Russia as India can not afford to loss her strategic partner. Now India is looking for a new strategic partner and France is the one India is hoping that could fit the shoes of Russia. However Israel is trying for more military contracts along with increasing trust with the USA.

Armenia's voice does not count. West has heavily invested in BTC pipeline

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Any pictures or press release on the training mission

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Pak-Russia pipeline

In a clear sign of shifting global dynamics and the concomitant need for new geo-political alliances in a rapidly changing world, Pakistan’s courting of Russia is on. The historically terse relationship has recently started to thaw as Pakistan belatedly emerges out of foreign policy stagnancy rooted in the permutations of the Cold War era. The latest indicator of this renewed and mutually beneficial association is the state-to-state agreement signed between Pakistan’s Federal Minister for Petroleum and Natural Resources Shahid Khaqan Abbasi and Russia’s Minister for Energy Alexander Novak wherein Russia has agreed to build a $ 2 billion dollar North-South gas pipeline that would stretch 1,100 kilometres from Karachi to Lahore. The pipeline will have the capacity to carry 12.4 billion cubic metres of liquefied natural gas (LNG) per year and will connect terminals in Karachi with those in Lahore. Jubilant officials hail this pipeline as a game changer because they claim that until now no suitable mechanism existed to distribute gas around the country but once the pipeline is functional, imported gas will be easily transported and provided. The pipeline’s reach and the substantial volume it can carry has raised hopes that the pipeline will provide a credible solution to the deepening energy crisis by helping to enhance the generation of electricity to the tune of 3,600 Megawatts, while also serving as a kick-starter for the floundering CNG sector and providing a boon to industries. There is also talk of involving China in this project in some capacity at a later stage, in a further show of Pakistan’s increasing confidence and reliance on its more immediately located partners to come to its aid. In any case, there are embryonic plans to eventually merge this Russian built pipeline with the LNG pipeline in the western half of Pakistan being built as part of the Chinese Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). Doing so would give Pakistan an unprecedented fuel network and control over the allocation of its resources, and such a move therefore makes eminent sense. Some caution though must be injected into the overwhelmingly buoyant proceedings since the project, set to be completed in three phases, has a long way to go and the expected completion in 2020 may turn out to be wishful thinking as delays, ballooning costs, security concerns and other unforeseen obstacles are routine in such ventures and this project is too important to be compromised by impatience.

For Pakistan, the benefit of this deal is obvious enough as the easily transported gas will be much cheaper and more efficient than the fuel oil being used currently to produce electricity. Such a reduction in price and increase in production will mitigate a worsening crisis and ease the noose around the public’s neck. Furthermore, Russia as the largest oil and gas producing country has plenty of technical expertise to contribute, which would further help eliminate Pakistan’s energy shortfall. For Russia, the deal provides its state-owned energy corporation Rostec ownership and control over the management of the pipeline for 25 years, and not only does it seek to recoup substantially from this investment, this move helps it strengthen its influence in the affairs of the region. With Russia and China gaining in strength and confidence in the global arena, the relationship amongst the world powers is set to undergo a shakeup as the unipolar dominance of the US now has a definite expiry date. To assert and secure their growing status, Russia and China are on a diplomatic offensive to win over new allies. The move by Russia and Pakistan to strengthen ties comes after Russia’s traditional ally in the region, India, has moved closer to Pakistan’s traditional main backer, the US. Both countries woke up to the fickleness of international relations and have realized the need to seek new, non-exclusive alliances rather than rigidly sticking with outdated attitudes and risk being vulnerable. First the impasse with Pakistan was broken when Russia agreed to an arms deal, now the relationship has progressed to the energy sector. It is hoped that this emerging alliance does not suffer from the reversals of the past and continues to foster results in a mutually advantageous economic relationship.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/editorial/18-Oct-2015/pak-russia-pipeline

Thank you, sir...........I find below article very interesting too.....

http://en.riss.ru/analysis/18882/