Russia Wagner Mutiny | Updates & Discussions

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1672651448377569280

 

[Foinikas]

Let's talk about the thrashing that Mongolians delivered to Russians while considering HISTORY.

Ah but that was in the medieval times when the Rus' were still divided in Principalities. They weren't united.

But all the rest that you mentioned,yes. Moldova,Czechoslovakia,Hungary,Georgia,Syria they were way more organized and succesful.

Xi is with NATO.

US and Chnia agreed to Russian balkanization plan when CIA direcror met Xi few months ago.

What about Pakistan balkanization?

 

[That Guy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1672651448377569280

Oh how the tables turn.

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1672649652062093315

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

On who exactly?



That’s not how coups work. As long as Russian army, FSB, and others remain loyal to Putin then nothing can happen.

Look at Turkish coup, they failed to capture Erdogan and it failed.

Russia is trying to disarm the rebellion with common sense.



Stop quoting Ukrainian propaganda. You think if he left Moscow he would leave with his transponder on?

Why would Russian troops forced into the army stay loyal.

 

[dBSPL]

Xi is with NATO.

US and Chnia agreed to Russian balkanization plan when CIA direcror met Xi few months ago.

China's alliance is not with NATO, but with another segment, I think you are mistaken about this. There's only one step left for all the pieces to fall into place, a civil disobedience and beyond in the US.

 

[Hero786]

So it IS a coup attempt. Taking Moscow means taking Russian central command. Putin and his loyalists can probably move to another major city, but if they lose Moscow, Putin's legitimacy will end.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/14hf94n

https://twitter.com/x/status/1672395217461288961

"That Guy" is wrong, Yandex is not filtering "Prigozhin" wikipedia page.

 

[aziqbal]

Based on? Did you see current level of chaos while Russia was involved in Syria? Georgia? Chechnya? Moldova? Afghanistan? Czechoslovakia?

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Napoleon = grossly overrated French military leader

Let's talk about the thrashing that Mongolians delivered to Russians while considering HISTORY.

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Soviet Union defeated the Wehrmacht under favorable circumstances.

1. Soviet Union = 15 Soviet Socialist Republics

So many states provided strategic depth to Russia and made it difficult for the Wehrmacht to reach Moscow.

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General Knowledge: Joseph Stalin was born in Georgia.
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2. Germany was fighting a war with US-led forces on the one hand and Soviet Union on the other hand. The Wehrmacht had to split its resources for both fronts and could not reinforce its military force for the Battle of Kursk in 1943 due to this factor.

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3. US was also providing significant military aid to Soviet Union and was focused on plugging Soviet military capability gaps including its logistics needs (i.e., Lend-Lease Act).

400,000 jeeps & trucks
14,000 airplanes
8,000 tractors
13,000 tanks
1.5 million blankets
15 million pairs of army boots
107,000 tons of cotton
2.7 million tons of petrol products
4.5 million tons of food

World War II Allies: U.S. Lend-Lease to the Soviet Union, 1941-1945

Even before the United States entered World War II in December 1941, America sent arms and equipment to the Soviet Union to help it defeat the Nazi

ru.usembassy.gov

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War in Ukraine has turned into a disaster for Russia. Anybody with common sense can see the obvious.

Soviet Union wasn't embarrassed on this level while in Afghanistan, not even remotely close.

Russians are a strong Asian side but nowhere close to being the warriors that you portray them to be.

NATO can wipe out Russian army in Ukraine in a matter of days but NATO is led by cowards as well. Perhaps the Ukrainian nuclear power plant is the red line? Not sure.

People like you get to gloat due to NATO's inaction.

Just stop and come to senses. Be realistic in your judgement calls.

I think we know it wasn't anywhere close to 13,000 tanks from the pro-US website it was more like 4,000-7000 tanks

and USSR built over 70,000 tanks during the War so its even less than 10% of the tank fleet

a bit unfair to say it was favourable circumstances when less than 10% help came from West and Soviet Union really tied down almost 150 Nazi divisions and only deployed around 50 to the Western front it was really only the Battle of the Bulge where Germans really tried to fight hard

more like Allies had favourable conditions thanks to USSR

anyway coming back to the point Wagner has very small amount of men + material and Russian Army has way to much

less moral for the Russian army and higher moral for Wagner

anyway too early to predict but Prigozhin has never publicly gone against Putin so negotiations are under way to resolve this

because lets be honest what exactly will Wagner do when they reach Moscow reminds me of the 6th January Capitol attacks

 

[Tamerlane]

Minsk said that Prigozhin accepted Lukashenka's proposal to stop the movement of PMC "Wagner"​

A profitable and acceptable option for solving the situation has been developed, with security guarantees for the fighters of the PMC "Wagner"​

Prigozhin accepted Lukashenka's proposal to stop the movement of PMC "Wagner" and steps to de-escalate - Telegram channel "Pool of the First".

A profitable and acceptable option for solving the situation has been developed, with security guarantees for the Wagner PMC fighters.

Negotiations between Lukashenka and Prigozhin lasted all day - the press service of the President of Belarus.

https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/18110657

 

[aziqbal]

looks like deescalation

https://twitter.com/x/status/1672654479550738433

https://twitter.com/x/status/1672654907415969795

 

[monitor]

Belarusian president held talks with Prigozhin today. Lukashenko says that Prigozhin has agreed to "stop the movement of armed persons on the territory of Russia and to take further steps to deescalate"

Reports are coming from the Lipetsk region about the stop of Wagner columns" - Moskovskij Komsomolets

 

[reflecthofgeismar]

I think we know it wasn't anywhere close to 13,000 tanks from the pro-US website it was more like 4,000-7000 tanks

and USSR built over 70,000 tanks during the War so its even less than 10% of the tank fleet

a bit unfair to say it was favourable circumstances when less than 10% help came from West and Soviet Union really tied down almost 150 Nazi divisions and only deployed around 50 to the Western front it was really only the Battle of the Bulge where Germans really tried to fight hard

more like Allies had favourable conditions thanks to USSR

anyway coming back to the point Wagner has very small amount of men + material and Russian Army has way to much

less moral for the Russian army and higher moral for Wagner

anyway too early to predict but Prigozhin has never publicly gone against Putin so negotiations are under way to resolve this

because lets be honest what exactly will Wagner do when they reach Moscow reminds me of the 6th January Capitol attacks

Russians wouldn't have enough resources to produce THEIR OWN stuff.
Russians wouldn't have enough food to feed their worker (children who did 9hrs shifts).
Russians would have to engage much more Germans with air surpremacy the whole time if Western allies wouldn't bomb Germany to dust and free the AA about Germany.
Soviet AND US (+ Brits/Commonwealth) needed each other.
To beat conventional a healthy Wehrmacht would have demand YEARS of war and too much attrition of US manpower, nuclear-bombs then on Germany, yes but conventional would not have been possible, even with DUMB german war industries.
Soviet blood + Murrican oversupplying and bombing German industry to dust was a way too strong combination.
Western allies, respective Murricans mostly, enabled the Soviet to survive and to produce their stuff.

 

[arjunk]

Pakistan needs to give condescending lectures about the safety of nukes to the west.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Re : Prigozhin agreeing to descalate ..

Lets see if this is true - or optimistic wishful reporting from Belarus ... It means that a large force of Wagner would get caught out in the open, on the motorway if they stop. Ripe targets for Putin - once he gets his defence organised.

Damn risky for Prigozhin to accept anything right now ...

 

[JPMM]

Please stop coming to Antalya. We are fully booked as a country, there is no vacancy. Thank you very much.

Right, I was there last week with the Handball EBT, its full of Russians.
Its Polution