What's new

Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

Status
Not open for further replies.
I am very interested to find out how this war is playing out in Middle Eastern regional politics.

We saw a shift in Middle east after russia decisively won the war in syria for the Assad govt. Now russia is seemingly loosing a war in Europe and we are seeing egypt militarily distancing themselves from russia!

This war will surely cause another shift in Middle east.
 
.
How sure are you that these were the Russians?
what have you been drinking... ouzo?

Never seen such a useless post. You are clearly a vested player on this forum deliberately sowing misinformation.

Do us all a favour... listen to nana maskouri.. it will give you some level of reality.... that is if you are greek to begin with..... no greek friends i have say what you are.
 
.
This conflict has been pretty shocking!

The fact that russian forces are retreating from kiev after a month of fighting looks like a defeat to me . This outcome has gravely impacted russian image as giobal power.

All non western aligned countries will now be moving away from russia and closer to china . Honestly this defeat of Russia is win for china geopolitically. And i suspect the chinese leadership feels this as well. Thats why they are not providing any military support to russia.
Xi played it smart by giving Poutine only limited economic alliance while at the same time spouting nonsensical speeches about Russia. Basically, talk is cheap while sending military aid will be costly in the long run. But Poutine also know what Xi is doing. This war is pretty much a geopolitical miscalculation by Poutine in that now Russia is unexpectedly China's bitch, so why should Xi risk that superior status by doing anything more than just give Poutine some pleasing speeches and buy some Russian products?

Here is the long term deal...

The longer Poutine is in power, the longer will Russia be China's junior partner. Xi have so much more for China to gain by supporting Poutine in the public stage. The longer Russia is China's bitch, the more time China will have to take steps to continually strengthened China's superior status. So China will keep on buying Russia's products to further enriching Poutine personally. This is a win-win for China in that Xi takes a win and China takes a win. The real loser is Russia.
 
.
.
Here, some of our friends were talking about the Chinese media being very different from the US media. However, the media of both parties is basically the same. Both manipulate their people.

Both are cut from same cloth; brainwash entire populous; if anyone complains - poison them or send them to rehabilitiation;
 
.
Day 40

Well, I never thought I would still be writing this in Day 40. But here we are, at Day 40 (About to go to Day 41) of the War in Ukraine. Fighting continue.

Here are the situation as of Day 40

View attachment 830541

So, what's happening?

Russia is Culminated

We hear this a thousand time, but what does that mean?

In war, a force is culminated means they are at the high tide mark and can no longer progress forward, usually at the end of their logistic capability. Further gain is unlikely at this point unless a serious reshape and re-contribution to the combat operation at hand.

Russia at this point reached the high tide mark for the entire operation, The Northern arm has been beaten back, and Ukrainian is counter attacking North East Ukraine. Russia pull off all the force in North and try to reinsert it somewhere either in the East (Near Kharkiv) or South East (Near Donbas)

Localised Battle

Kyiv - Russian Retrograde

Russian announced a draw back on the North, on the other hand, we have not seen any retrograde operation launched by Russia to preserve its North Force, what we can see is a general withdraw with their force abandoning defensive position around Kyiv and its suburb.

According to Chapter 7 FM 100-15 A retrograde operation defined as the following.

1.) A delay operation to withdraw frontline troop in parts to preserve the frontline, so you don't pull everyone at once and collapse the frontline.
2.) A volunteer withdrawal of rear troop, with defensive position destroyed or sabotaged so to denied the enemy for using the defensive structure you have built.
3.) Redeploy and/or retired the troop that are not engage in combat.

We didn't see any of that.......

Conventional Wisdom suggest for every unit you pull off the front line, you leave 2 unit behind to act as a "Fighting Withdrawal" that way you will always have some troop holding the line and not going to vacate the frontline all at once, this is obviously did not do, because Ukraine took back almost the entire Kyiv Oblast in 2 days, and leave behind carnage suggested that the Russian withdraw is unorganised and sudden.

On the other hand, defensive position around the line were not destroyed. Noted in Hostomel Airport, this Satellite Image suggested the defensive position remain intact

View attachment 830563

From this, we can deduce Russian Operation in Kyiv is not a Retrograde, but a general rout.

Odesa

Odesa is on the far side of the Western Coast, it being the biggest and only port left with Ukraine, this is a big target for the Russian, so what's happening to it?

Apart from a missile strike and an artillery strike, nothing.

Even tho snake island felt on day 1, Odesa was largely untouched. Russian ship is on stand by, however, they cannot launch an amphibious assault until the Russian took Mykolaiv, you need a supply route over land in order to sustain an amphibious operation.

I would have to say Odesa is safe for now, pending on whether or not Ukrainian can take Kherson during the counter offensive.

Kherson

I have no doubt in my mind Kherson is the next Counter Offensive Point for Ukrainian. Taking Kherson would pressure Russian troop back to Crimea as you can made a clear dash toward Crimea thru Kherson, and taking Kherson would have weaken the Russian ability to conduct Military Operation in the South and South East.

During the last few days we have seen limited activities in Kherson area after Ukrainian counter attacked toward Kherson Airfield, this is in my opinion probing work, Ukraine is waiting on heavy equipment (Tanks and Artillery) for a major push, once those equipment is in Ukrainian hand, we would expect to see a General Push toward Kherson and Melitopol Direction.

Mariupol

Anybody who studied warfare would probably tell you Mariupol would have fall in the first few days of the war. The Proximity (10km toward Donbas frontline) would mean this is more or less a sure things to the Russia. Taking Mariupol would free up a bunch of troop from the South and East so they can have the freedom to move North and encircle the Ukrainian Defender in Donbas.

40 days in, Mariupol is still hanging on by a thread. At this stage, I would have to say even if Mariupol felt, the Russian force, with 40 days of hard fighting would have been spent or near spent, which mean the original objective may be already in doubt. On the other hand, if the Ukrainian manage to break thru from Kherson, that will render the advance toward Mariupol pointless, because the Russia would have to pull troop back to defend Crimea. And even if Mariupol did fall, I seriously doubt Russia have enough troop to defend the city from a upcoming counter attack.

Kharkiv

Kharkiv is probably one of the wild card at the early onset of the war, due to it proximity toward Russian border and it's large ethnic Russian resident, we don't know if Kharkiv would have just fold or people in Kharkiv is going to cooperate with the Russian.

Kharkiv turns out to be one of the fiercest place of the entire war. Kharkiv have been back and forth, and latest intelligence suggested that Russia is no longer trying to take Kharkiv, and were unable to encircle it. Russian strategy with Kharkiv is by-passing it and going south toward Izyum and trying to encircle the Donbas defender.

Kharkiv is currently also one of the major point of Ukrainian counter offensive, with supply corridor being pushed back across the border.

Overall Situation

As of April 4. the situation is probably a stauts quo between the Russian force and Ukrainian Force. Russia have been withdrew from the Northern ends, Kyiv is relief as of now.

Depending on how Russian rearm and regroup, they may try to invade thru Belarus and into Ukraine again, however, unlike the first time they have the element of surprise, this time, Ukrainian is fully or nearly fully mobilised with time to make defensive position, any further advance is going to be tougher than it was before, which make another push toward Kyiv unlikely.

On the other hand, Russian is expected to rotate the force and redeploy them toward the south, a logical destination is in Donbas instead of Kharkiv, on the other hand, these force is freshly pull off the field from Kyiv and reinsert them into Donbas for a grinder warfare, I seriously doubt the combat effectiveness of these force without giving them enough time to R&R.

While the Russian is doing that, Ukrainian have been able to raise another 200,000 TDF troop, and is currently opening another round of mobilisation, basically awaiting armament and equipment to fully kit out the first batch of TDF troop. As this war drag on, the more investment coming from EU and US, Ukrainian Force is going to grow in number which mean they can pursuit more objective than they can now. On the other hand, can the Russian keep up with the number game and the equipment game is unknown. Bear in mind, US and EU is underwriting the war in Ukraine for Ukraine. Russia is paying for its own war, with heavy economic sanction, the capability of whether or not they can persecute such a war during these economic circumstance is doubtful at best.

In the next week or 2, as more equipment and formation of new Brigade, Ukrainian is expect to conduct a country-wide counter offensive. I would say the next counter offensive focus is going to be in the Southern Region.

Russian/Ukrainian end game?

I don't think this war would be decided on the field, I still think this war is going to be decided with the peace talk, the position on the ground will dictate the progress peace talk. I don't think Russia can take anything more than Donbas, I do think the southern corridor is in jeapody from Ukrainian counter attack.

So I would suggest the next Ukrainian counter attack would see who have the bigger carrot in the peace talk. If Russian failed to resist the counter attack, then donbas would not have a favourable outcome. On the other hand, if Ukrainian are not able to dislodge the Russian, then outlook of the Ukrainian defence in Donbas will be grim. They will then be more willing to deal, other than keep fighting.

@Wood @RescueRanger @SQ8 @Paul2 @mmr @LeGenD
Is this your judgement or that of the ISW? It isn't clear.
 
.
what have you been drinking... ouzo?

Never seen such a useless post. You are clearly a vested player on this forum deliberately sowing misinformation.

Do us all a favour... listen to nana maskouri.. it will give you some level of reality.... that is if you are greek to begin with..... no greek friends i have say what you are.
The wars in Yugoslavia,Iraq and Syria have made me suspicious about such things and I don't want to draw any conclusions yet. I've seen a lot of misinformation,lies and propaganda by the West. It's the same story again and again. Not that there aren't thugs and idiots in the Russian Army,but until the whole thing is investigated,I don't take sides on this.
 
.
Xi played it smart by giving Poutine only limited economic alliance while at the same time spouting nonsensical speeches about Russia. Basically, talk is cheap while sending military aid will be costly in the long run. But Poutine also know what Xi is doing. This war is pretty much a geopolitical miscalculation by Poutine in that now Russia is unexpectedly China's bitch, so why should Xi risk that superior status by doing anything more than just give Poutine some pleasing speeches and buy some Russian products?

Here is the long term deal...

The longer Poutine is in power, the longer will Russia be China's junior partner. Xi have so much more for China to gain by supporting Poutine in the public stage. The longer Russia is China's bitch, the more time China will have to take steps to continually strengthened China's superior status. So China will keep on buying Russia's products to further enriching Poutine personally. This is a win-win for China in that Xi takes a win and China takes a win. The real loser is Russia.
I mean Russia to China population and GDP ratio is the same as US and Canada. Is Canada a junior partner to the US?
 
.
Xi played it smart by giving Poutine only limited economic alliance while at the same time spouting nonsensical speeches about Russia. Basically, talk is cheap while sending military aid will be costly in the long run. But Poutine also know what Xi is doing. This war is pretty much a geopolitical miscalculation by Poutine in that now Russia is unexpectedly China's bitch, so why should Xi risk that superior status by doing anything more than just give Poutine some pleasing speeches and buy some Russian products?

Here is the long term deal...

The longer Poutine is in power, the longer will Russia be China's junior partner. Xi have so much more for China to gain by supporting Poutine in the public stage. The longer Russia is China's bitch, the more time China will have to take steps to continually strengthened China's superior status. So China will keep on buying Russia's products to further enriching Poutine personally. This is a win-win for China in that Xi takes a win and China takes a win. The real loser is Russia.
I am suspecting, going forward china will only support russia if it chooses to be the junior partner.

China will be dominant partner in the alliance.
I also think , putin is not dumb .. he also understands this. Thats why we see the change in russian strategy to get a more achievable goal in ukraine.
 
.
Here, some of our friends were talking about the Chinese media being very different from the US media. However, the media of both parties are basically the same. Both manipulate their people.

The translations are incorrect (perhaps purposefully). Every Russian talking point is clearly labeled a Russian claim while Ukrainian claims are also laid out.
 
.
The wars in Yugoslavia,Iraq and Syria have made me suspicious about such things and I don't want to draw any conclusions yet. I've seen a lot of misinformation,lies and propaganda by the West. It's the same story again and again. Not that there aren't thugs and idiots in the Russian Army,but until the whole thing is investigated,I don't take sides on this.

Did you know any one who went and saw what happened in Yugoslavia? I did... my best friend went and saw what the f. serbs did.. You are here to glorify Serbs now? Until the mujahideen came and turned the war around and gave these serbians

What is happening is genocide .. period.. Dont sugar coat it; the Russians are dogs at the end of the day. What is so sad, I see Pak members supporting these Russians... they convinently forget all the toys which had explosives in them being dropped so that children would pick up and maime the children... what that fake?




I am not going to waste any more time with people who are either mentally sick or paid agents to sow disinformation. Bottom line innocent people have died at the hands of these Russian thugs...


This is what these dogs did in Syria and they got away with it.


We need the ICJ to hang these bastards.....
 
. . .
Did you know any one who went and saw what happened in Yugoslavia? I did... my best friend went and saw what the f. serbs did.. You are here to glorify Serbs now? Until the mujahideen came and turned the war around and gave these serbians

What is happening is genocide .. period.. Dont sugar coat it; the Russians are dogs at the end of the day. What is so sad, I see Pak members supporting these Russians... they convinently forget all the toys which had explosives in them being dropped so that children would pick up and maime the children... what that fake?




I am not going to waste any more time with people who are either mentally sick or paid agents to sow disinformation. Bottom line innocent people have died at the hands of these Russian thugs...


This is what these dogs did in Syria and they got away with it.


We need the ICJ to hang these bastards.....





The Russian Nazis have never changed
 
.
@LeGenD @gambit @dbc @jhungary

Any reason USA and NATO have not provided any lethal drones to Ukraine?
All I see is anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons

Is this due to fears of American weapons falling into Russian hands similar to how Taliban obtained USA weapons used by former Afghan army?
 
.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom