Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[thetutle]

Chinese don't view ourselves as being worse than Europeans even when we were dirt poor. During the Ming Dynasty we defeated Portuguese and Dutch. During the Qing Dynasty at our weakest, we defeated Russians and French. In 1950 we defeated the entire UN expeditionary forces.

China defeated the Portuguese and the Dutch. lol. Netehrands one of the smallest countries in europe. lol the whole country is like a city in china. And you managed to defeat them. great job.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Very interesting - muslims must be grateful because they were not wiped out like American Indians? that is your standard for gratitude ? I suppose thats why you are so sympathtic to nazis because they directly did not kill your ancestors when they could have done so. what logic really.

Soviets indeed absorbed occupied lands because they saw them as equal peoples. infact soviet policy encouraged inter-marriage between russians and other nationalities. No signs of "dogs and indians/blacks/irish" not allowed.

Soviets allowed the Baltics to become Soviet citizens instead of the standard treatment at the time: colonial slavery. They allowed Ukrainians like Khrushchev, Brezhnev and Gorbachev to rule the Soviet Union instead of saving the leadership seats for Russians only.

 

[Wood]

History repeating itself after a century?

 

[F-22Raptor]

lol, we'll see who gets humiliated in the end.

as for now, Russian ultimatum has been rejected.

So... we'll see what happens.

China has even less military experience than the Russians, and an amphibious invasion of Taiwan will be a nightmare for you. And Taiwan is better equipped than the Ukrainians.

Taiwan is learning a lot from the Ukrainians performance.

Be patient, Chinas humiliation will come, just as it has for the Russians.

 

[tower9]

Soviets allowed the Baltics to become Soviet citizens instead of the standard treatment at the time: colonial slavery. They allowed Ukrainians like Khrushchev, Brezhnev and Gorbachev to rule the Soviet Union instead of saving the leadership seats for Russians only.

That's a huge reminder of how historically intertwined Ukraine is to Russia. In fact, it was historically called Little Russia.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

China has even less military experience than the Russians, and an amphibious invasion of Taiwan will be a nightmare for you. And Taiwan is better equipped than the Ukrainians.

Taiwan is learning a lot from the Ukrainians performance.

Be patient, Chinas humiliation will come, just as it has for the Russians.

lmao we have nothing to prove. China sold weapons to Vietnam like you sold Ukraine and yet unlike Ukraine, there haven't been US soldiers in Vietnam for the past 50 years.

Vietnam hasn't given up 1 inch of territory to the US nor does the US have any political influence in Vietnam, while it's likely Ukraine will lose significant territory to Russia and have significant Russian influence in an independent puppet state.

 

[iiowelo]

No, you're right. China was humiliated in the past. Because it was the hegemon in Asia for so long that it became complacent, arrogant and disinterested in the outside world. That was its mistake.

However, China is probably the only country to have used its humiliation to empower itself. For most of human history, China was a great civilization and powerful empire. Now it is back and it is here to stay. This is just the beginning.

China has even left the ruins of its former palace destroyed by Europeans in place so its people can be reminded of the past humiliations and to never allow the country to be weak again. Think about that.

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Great to hear you admit the truth.

You can't be sure of the future.

You say the Chinese were complacent in the past, what's to say you will not become complacent in the future and decline again?

 

[retaxis]

I see it as clear sign of Western superiority.

West has been on top for 70years. China has been on top for over 4000years. China + East Asia also has far higher IQ points than west plus West is becoming a demographic nightmare and will turn into minority majority country soon further reducing IQ levels. Your prime was short lived, so sad. In 50 years time when your grandchildren are black and speak nigerian listening to rap and gang banging while East Asians occupy solar system its hard to compare then get it?

 

[tower9]

Great to hear you admit the truth.

You can't be sure of the future.

You say the Chinese were complacent in the past, what's to say you will not become complacent in the future and decline again?

There is no predicting what will happen 200 years from now. But the China of today is the least thing from complacent. It is always awake, hungry for opportunities, building its already enormous strength and biding its time. China is the by far the most competent and vibrant great power today.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Great to hear you admit the truth.

You can't be sure of the future.

You say the Chinese were complacent in the past, what's to say you will not become complacent in the future and decline again?

because we're pulling ahead at one of the most critical times in human history.

next 50 years will be nothing like the past 50 years which were a time of plenty compared to the crisis that's coming. last 50 years had so much new resources unleashed like oil, natural gas, solar, etc. meanwhile the next 50 years is going to be one of hardship and decline.

humanity is at an important juncture, next 50 years determines whether our species will spend the rest of our existence in the space age (if we succeed in solving problems) or the medieval age (if we fail to solve problems)

the 50 years after 2020 are what really matter. everything up to now, is just preparing for that. Russia is seizing the opportunity to make the first move. I can't blame them, just feel sorry for civilians.

 

[retaxis]

China has even less military experience than the Russians, and an amphibious invasion of Taiwan will be a nightmare for you. And Taiwan is better equipped than the Ukrainians.

Taiwan is learning a lot from the Ukrainians performance.

Be patient, Chinas humiliation will come, just as it has for the Russians.

We are patiently waiting for 2042 when America turns into minority majority country and kowtow to China superior intellect and IQ. generations of lazy hispanic gang banging americans will be no threat to China understand?

 

[iiowelo]

Are you talking about the crusaders who repeatedly got their asses handed to them, and in the end eventually wiped out. Not to mention when the mamluks took your french king hostage, put him in house arrest with a eunuch, and made you pay exorbitant amount of money to get him back. I guess we must be inferior though, ruling spain for 800 years, not to mention parts of italy for a good couple centuries. Or when the ottomans ruled eastern europe for 500, not to mention greece. Or when the crimean khanate was using russia and ukraine as a slave farm for 300 years. Guess we must be really inferior then. Plus you're an italian, not a roman. They were a great civilization, while you're a joke.

You are a Pakistani. Let's not joke about it. We all know what Pakistan stands for, what it is known for around the world.

Italy is a developed country, more advanced, powerful, G7 member. EU member. Your Turkish brothers obtained their attack helicopter T-129 from Italian company. LIcense built.


ALL of Pakistan, Africa, Middle East, North America, Europe was colonized by europeans. Romans colonized all of Middle East, North Africa, Greeks conquered Pakistan, Afghanistan going as far back as 2000 years ago.

You people could never, ever in history capture Rome.

Let's get this straight.

Never in history could you capture Rome, the current capital of Italy.

But all of your countries were captured, conquered, civilized starting way back more than 2000 years ago by Europeans.

 

[tower9]

because we're pulling ahead at one of the most critical times in human history.

next 50 years will be nothing like the past 50 years which were a time of plenty compared to the crisis that's coming. last 50 years had so much new resources unleashed like oil, natural gas, solar, etc. meanwhile the next 50 years is going to be one of hardship and decline.

humanity is at an important juncture, next 50 years determines whether our species will spend the rest of our existence in the space age (if we succeed in solving problems) or the medieval age (if we fail to solve problems)

The scary part is that China sees what is coming and is preparing. That shows how far its insight and wisdom is compared to many other countries.

While the EU and the US have no idea what is coming. It's going to be some very tough and scary times coming.

 

[iiowelo]

because we're pulling ahead at one of the most critical times in human history.

next 50 years will be nothing like the past 50 years which were a time of plenty compared to the crisis that's coming. last 50 years had so much new resources unleashed like oil, natural gas, solar, etc. meanwhile the next 50 years is going to be one of hardship and decline.

humanity is at an important juncture, next 50 years determines whether our species will spend the rest of our existence in the space age (if we succeed in solving problems) or the medieval age (if we fail to solve problems)

These are your predictions. You can keep them to yourselves.

We are patiently waiting for 2042 when America turns into minority majority country and kowtow to China superior intellect and IQ. generations of lazy hispanic gang banging americans will be no threat to China understand?

Is that an admission that you can't defeat American majority population in a fair contest? That you need demographic change in American territory in order to surpass them?

That you need your enemy to fumble on its own rather than you making the enemy surrender through the might of China?

Seems like you admit Western civilization is inherently superior to Chinese/Mongolian or East Asian.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

These are your predictions. You can keep them to yourselves.

you asked what if Chinese become complacent.

I gave you the answer - we won't because we're in crisis mode, independent of what other countries do. Our economic development isn't to compete with other countries but with nature and history. It just so happens that nature and history are far bigger rivals than any other country.