Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1722615403007119680

 

[MeFishToo]

Russian can't hold? Ukrainians can't hold? Dude, we have NATO dumping their kitchen sink for almost 2 years. Is Russia destroyed? Ukraine is the one getting destroyed and depopulated. You sound like a crazy person asking for the war to continu3, i prefer peace and so no Ukrainians or Russians will need to die. As long as China is there, Russia will survive and grow slightly. Look at their GDP numbers recently. Taking back what from China? Han China controlled N. Vietnam, we have the right to retake those territories not you okay. You are Chams.

What I see happening now is despite the pathetic performance of the Russian military, the strategic outcome is a Russian win, they managed to destroy Ukrainian industrial base and economy, depopulate the country and made sure Ukraine is out of NATO for the near future. Ukraine will now be a shithole for the next few decades, sort of like a fck up buffer zone, which was what the Russians wanted anyway. Lolol. The West is already signalling they want a ceasefire desperately. Lololol
They also got 20% of Ukraine, pathetic, but still sizeable.

Why dont you give us a look at Russias latest GDP numbers?

 

[MeFishToo]

You pay to much attention to war deceptions.
What makes me think that?
Well people here were in orgasmic bliss when uaf launched summer offensive acted like guderian for poor people, i said after week that it was doomed to fail but drive was still high, in that failed offensive they diminshed their whole offensive potential while russians start gaining more and more ground threatening to achieve big gains in next weeks.
Russia has more ammo, more men and more and more modern drones to full tactical advantage they already win war of attrition big time.
War is math and numbers are on their side.

I will reply to this post next week and show you Russias “big gains”. Fact is neither side is capable of doing strategic offensive operations, and all battles are tactical. Where I think you are wrong is the assumption of Russia having more of everything besides hyperbole.
This war and its consequences is draining Russia way more than public figures wants you to know, and not even a victory in Ukraine is going to turn the tides in Russia.

I have been sick, so it has been 10 days insted of 7. Lets take a look at Russias gains since 30. october. Didnt bother to look anywhere but Avdiivka. Not much to talk about really.

 

[aziqbal]

Why dont you give us a look at Russias latest GDP numbers?

you will never learn

you think like those Neo-cons and after 2 years of beating still no sense has been beat into you

NATO and West thought because of their higher GDP and sophisticated weapons platforms and standoff missiles and range they could beat back Russia

but Russia fooled the West into a attrition war, NATO agreed and gave chase but at some point you need to bring the goods

you need to bring REAL men to the battle field, not LGBT+ and Transvestites carrying rainbow flags

Russia proved in 21st Century it can still rumble on the ground while Western nations shows their identity crisis and confusion on the battle field let them down

Russian men are tough men, their women cook at home while Western nations are run and dominated by Feminists who are telling their men what to go even how to behave

Feminist dominated men cannot make decisions, Western men are no longer men

Russia does not win by GDP they dont win by technology they win by grand strategy guts and determination these guys are masters of the Great Game

63 nation including US + NATO and over $150 billion in aid couldn't even push Russia back by 400m at Bakhmut

 

[RescueRanger]

Any news on the F16’s for Ukraine?

 

[MeFishToo]

you will never learn

you think like those Neo-cons and after 2 years of beating still no sense has been beat into you

NATO and West thought because of their higher GDP and sophisticated weapons platforms and standoff missiles and range they could beat back Russia

but Russia fooled the West into a attrition war, NATO agreed and gave chase but at some point you need to bring the goods

you need to bring REAL men to the battle field, not LGBT+ and Transvestites carrying rainbow flags

Russia proved in 21st Century it can still rumble on the ground while Western nations shows their identity crisis and confusion on the battle field let them down

Russian men are tough men, their women cook at home while Western nations are run and dominated by Feminists who are telling their men what to go even how to behave

Feminist dominated men cannot make decisions, Western men are no longer men

Russia does not win by GDP they dont win by technology they win by grand strategy guts and determination these guys are masters of the Great Game

63 nation including US + NATO and over $150 billion in aid couldn't even push Russia back by 400m at Bakhmut

You just cant resist beating this strawman of yours. Russia is fighting Ukraine, and the West is supporting Ukraine with weapons, ammunition and equipment at snails pace.
You identifying with russian conservative attitudes towards gender roles has zero to do with realities on the battlefield. Most russian volunteers are in Ukraine because of economic hardship in rural Russia giving Putin a large pool expendable plebs to sacrifice not leading to unrest in Russia.

Now would you please stop adressing me with this SoMe driven narrative of the west being dominated by LGBT, transvestites and feminism. It makes you look like an idiot. Half of the post on this forum accuse the West of cruelty, racism and genocide and and the other half of the West being soft and weak.

 

[Viet]

110 billion in loans to whom? Hahhaahah. Western lenders? Are you awake my friend? Russia told them to claim it from those unlawfully seized sovereign reserves. You think they give a jackshit6to repay their dollar loans mate?

Not sure how you calculate their economy and budget man. 100bil for military? Russia managed to fend off an Ukrainian army armed to the teeth by NATO with a fraction of the cost. Their ROI is definitely higher than 100$ per toilet roll US Army. Lolol

Putin lives in a fantasy world, much like you. totally distracted from reality. Yes Russia must pay back the debts, not much to the West. to finance the imports he has taken huge loans in China. very difficult though to estimate how much Russia is indebted to China. you may know Russia is cut off from Swift, every import and export transactions must go to a chinese bank or other shadow banks via Turkey or Malta.
Below Russia budget plannings. Putin particitates Russia victory over Ukraine in 2024 or 2025. if not he has a problem. then how can he balance the spendings if the revs on oil and gas shrinking as per estimate? Russia huge incomes in oil and gas exports in 2022 are the exception.

 

[Han Patriot]

Putin lives in a fantasy world, much like you. totally distracted from reality. Yes Russia must pay back the debts, not much to the West. to finance the imports he has taken huge loans in China. very difficult though to estimate how much Russia is indebted to China. you may know Russia is cut off from Swift, every import and export transactions must go to a chinese bank or other shadow banks via Turkey or Malta.
Below Russia budget plannings. Putin particitates Russia victory over Ukraine in 2024 or 2025. if not he has a problem. then how can he balance the spendings if the revs on oil and gas shrinking as per estimate? Russia huge incomes in oil and gas exports in 2022 are the exception.



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I can't read German and secondly nobody is denying Russia is affected by the war, but you cannot deny their economy is still growing despite sanctions. Btw, Chinese loans? Are you serious? Most Russian loans were to Western institutions, even if there are Chinese loans, we accept oil and gas. Russia is one of the richest country on earth, not paper rich, tangibly rich. Ukraine otoh is basically a beggar, once papa yankee closes the tap, bye bye. That's the reason why US wants to negotiate a peace treaty with Russia, they know Russia will overwhelm Ukraine once they close the tap.

 

[Viet]

I can't read German and secondly nobody is denying Russia is affected by the war, but you cannot deny their economy is still growing despite sanctions. Btw, Chinese loans? Are you serious? Most Russian loans were to Western institutions, even if there are Chinese loans, we accept oil and gas. Russia is one of the richest country on earth, not paper rich, tangibly rich. Ukraine otoh is basically a beggar, once papa yankee closes the tap, bye bye. That's the reason why US wants to negotiate a peace treaty with Russia, they know Russia will overwhelm Ukraine once they close the tap.

you don´t need to understand german or french. the graph shows Russia bets on victory over Ukraine in 2024 or 2025. that explains why Russia military spendings and domestic oppressions would shrink in 2024 and 2025. Oil and gas exports generate 60 percent rev for the Russia. but how Russia can balance the budget if those rev shrinking but the spendings are rising?
Russia spendings on debts rise faster than spendings on economy, healthcare and social programs.

one other thing, Russia sells oil to India as well, but gets Rupees in return. but that is a problem. Russia can´t use the rupees to buy anything.
Putin wants yuan, because he can buy chinese stuffs. in doing so he must go into forward debts and pay later.

 

[Han Patriot]

you don´t need to understand german or french. the graph shows Russia bets on victory over Ukraine in 2024 or 2025. that explains why Russia military spendings and domestic oppressions would shrink in 2024 and 2025. Oil and gas exports generate 60 percent rev for the Russia. but how Russia can balance the budget if those rev shrinking but the spendings are rising?
Russia spendings on debts rise faster than spendings on economy, healthcare and social programs.

one other thing, Russia sells oil to India as well, but gets Rupees in return. but that is a problem. Russia can´t use the rupees to buy anything.
Putin wants yuan, because he can buy chinese stuffs. in doing so he must go into forward debts and pay later.

My friend nobodies budget is ever balanced. As long as their economy is growing and they still can afford to sustain their war, then it is okay. Look, they have a decent inflation, they have oil and gas and food. They just need industrial goods and guess what, it is coming from China. China and Russia trade on debt? What are you smoking? We accept roubles too, at least we can change it into oil. Russia has a surplus vs China because they have exactly what we need. Dude, you can fantasise about Russia collapsing, but the reality is German industry is shitz now. We are even biting into German lunch in Asia.

Yeap, rupee os shitz, that's why the Russians are stopping it and will now use dirhams which is more liquid.

 

[mulj]

I have been sick, so it has been 10 days insted of 7. Lets take a look at Russias gains since 30. october. Didnt bother to look anywhere but Avdiivka. Not much to talk about really.
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Hope you recovered, meanwhile russians tightened noose even more for semi circled militants in avdivka, while uaf is spending their last reserves to prevent full collapse, it seems russians are doing fine in their grinding machine tactics.

 

[vizier]

Hope you recovered, meanwhile russians tightened noose even more for semi circled militants in avdivka, while uaf is spending their last reserves to prevent full collapse, it seems russians are doing fine in their grinding machine tactics.

After Avdiivka operational encirclement is complete some of the reservers can be allocated to more risky positions like Kherson. More troops can be allocated to Kherson after total control of Avdiivka is completed. The most risky issue currently is more Ukranians crossing Dnieper and expand their bridgehead in areas like Krynky and concealing themselves in residential areas threatening supply roads with fpv and artillery. More trained battle experienced personnel is needed there either from Wagner-Ahmad PMCs or from freed up troops coming from more battle active regions. Also some current troops in Kherson need to be sent to more active eastern regions for them to gain more experience and support the remaining troops there.

The settlements are also a natural concealment for Russian troops. If Russia attacks from open areas towards Krynky for example like from the south then Ukraine will use their fpvdrone-artillery combination to target Russian troops and vehicles easily causing high casualties but if Russian troops gather troops inside the settlements neighboring left and right side of Krynky Russian troops can infiltrate the Krynky area from residential areas with less risk of detection and Ukranian artillery. Before entering Russian troops can also use their own fpv drones to detect Ukranian troop movements inside Krynky and strike those areas with their own artillery softening up Ukranian positions there. The downside would be Ukranian drones would be above as well to detect Russian positions in settlements neighboring Krynky so they need to be careful about Ukranian capabilities while moving. Krynky and other areas Ukraine infiltrated and gained control are much smaller to hide than neighboring regions that is another Russian advantage in that sector.

 

[Viet]

Any news on the F16’s for Ukraine?

the first batch of F16s have landed in Romania. Ukraine pilots practising bomb runs. previosly those Ukraine pilots had been trained in the US. I would not be surprised if the F16s drop bombs on the Kerch during christmas days. the russians on the eastern front will unfortunately miss christmas gifts sent from home.

 

[Soldier35]

Ukrainian naval drones attacked Russian Serna landing boats. Footage of an attack by Ukrainian naval kamikaze drones on Russian landing boats of Project 11770 “Serna” has been published. According to Ukrainian media, the drone attack took place tonight in the waters of Crimea. It is not reported where the boats of the Serna project were located. The quality of the video is quite poor, but judging by the footage, one of the boats was definitely damaged by a Ukrainian drone strike. There are no details about the attack yet, and the model of the Ukrainian drone used is unknown. Landing boats of Project 11770 “Serna” began to be produced in 1993; the boat is equipped with a water-jet propulsion system and is capable of transporting a tank, 92 troops or two infantry fighting vehicles. Now Russia has 16 such boats.

 

[Vergennes]

Russians said first Ukraine targeted civilians but turned out the "victims" were russian military

https://twitter.com/x/status/1723020399242367249