Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[RoadAmerica]

Social media is having very negative effects.

But in general i am suprised just how fast American public support dropped for ukraine.

America squandered so much good will and leverage/influence by lying about Weapons of Mass Destruction and sitting in a desert for 20 years.
It is biting them now.
They cannot even control their public view in a situation that is much more black and white (russian agressor) and actually benefits them geopolitcally instead of only benefitting their defence industry.

What use is that 800 billion budget if not for such matters? I guess its for arming themselves on their way to the next american civil war cause its rapidly turning into a deeply divided shithole.

@RoadAmerica
Gotta arm yourself for them race wars/civil wars right?

More than 40% of Americans think civil war likely within a decade | US politics | The Guardian

More than half of ‘strong Republicans’ think such a conflict is at least somewhat likely, poll finds

amp.theguardian.com

Yeah its definately not a win for russia either. Though he will be able to make it seem that way internally and for gullible idiots abroad.

Problem is that then he and his clique will remain in power, and this new cold war will drag on for decades.
Not good for russia
Not good for europe
Not good for the world except USA/China/India.

Race wars? Lol says the German while Paris burns

 

[Viet]

Good move

Rheinmetall buys 50 leopards 1 from Belgium. 30 pieces will be refitted and delivered to Ukraine.

Kampfpanzer Leopard-1: Rheinmetall hat nach einem Bericht des „Handelsblatts“ 50 Stück aus Belgien aufgekauft; 30 sollen neu ausgerüstet und in die Ukraine geliefert werden. (imago / Sven Eckelkamp )

Rheinmetall liefert der Ukraine Leopard-1-Panzer

Der Rüstungskonzern Rheinmetall will der Ukraine offenbar 30 Leopard-1-Panzer liefern, die er aus belgischem Bestand aufarbeitet.

www.deutschlandfunk.de

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1689341072219004929

 

[ZeGerman]

Fact: Not a single Biden policy has helped the average American

alternative facts..what we expect from a MAGA.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/03/10/how-big-is-biden-stimulus/

“Economists say low- and moderate-income Americans will benefit the most from this aid, especially individuals earning $75,000 or less and couples earning $150,000 or less. The number of Americans living in poverty is predicted to drop in 2021 by as much as a third because of this legislation.”

Maybe not all reached the average american but billions of aid sure did.

And hey, better this then trillions in tax cuts for the rich.

Fact: Biden stands no chance if he even makes it to election time before being impeached

Alternative fact again.
In the real world they are polled pretty close:

Trump and Biden tied in hypothetical 2024 rematch: poll

Republican challenger and Democratic incumbent tied in hypothetical 2024 rematch at 43 per cent each

www.independent.co.uk

Even though i think running with almost a walking corpse is just stupid from the democrats.

Fact: Europe has milked America dry for decades, I’ve discussed this previously and the majority of American’s agree with Trump it should stop. Look at the polls .

And in that discussion you were proven to be completely off on just how large that amount was?!

You also ignored that USA keeps these bases mainly for its own interests as a hegemon and for its own power projection.
Rammstein is their safe logistical hub to reach ME and more.

The Most Important US Air Force Base You’ve Never Heard Of

So as I’ve said it’s far time for Europe to stand on their two feet, especially Germany (what a joke they have become)

Europe is going to reach the 2% spending Nato budget after waking up to the russian threat.

But At the same time, republicans are thinking to straight up abandon their ally ukraine.
Shit on americas so called “armory of democracy” goodwill, give their russian adversary time to recover, embolden Xi Jinping (I can use force and america will cave after a year and abandon its allies after working some social media propaganda), lose global power and influence.
All while at the same time calling for more and more billions to the army…to…what…sit in america preparing for the mexicans invading?

 

[ZeGerman]

Race wars? Lol says the German while Paris burns

how bad as that goes, I still wos not trade with USA .

Race in America 2019

Most Americans (65%) – including majorities across racial and ethnic groups – say it has become more common for people to express racist or racially insensitive views since Trump was elected president.

www.pewresearch.org

a significant Majority believe race relations to be bad

https://www.science.org/content/article/half-of-americans-anticipate-a-us-civil-war-soon-survey-finds

HALF of the polled americans expected a civil war in the coming years.

“A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand“

Same as for the western allies that republicans simply want to throw under the bus making nato/alliance with USA worthless.
Divisive little fuckers those MAGA.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Good move

Rheinmetall buys 50 leopards 1 from Belgium. 30 pieces will be refitted and delivered to Ukraine.


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Kampfpanzer Leopard-1: Rheinmetall hat nach einem Bericht des „Handelsblatts“ 50 Stück aus Belgien aufgekauft; 30 sollen neu ausgerüstet und in die Ukraine geliefert werden. (imago / Sven Eckelkamp )

Rheinmetall liefert der Ukraine Leopard-1-Panzer

Der Rüstungskonzern Rheinmetall will der Ukraine offenbar 30 Leopard-1-Panzer liefern, die er aus belgischem Bestand aufarbeitet.

www.deutschlandfunk.de

Overall - how many A1's are in storage ? Not seen any reliable figures anywhere. Given the type of tank warfare in ukraine right now, A1's are more than enough.

 

[zectech]

As I was saying for months, this is serious. This is no joke. Europe must rearm.

Americans want to abandon parts of Ukraine or more to Russia. Are sick of sending weapons and funds to Ukraine. The first just war the Americans are involved in for decades and beyond, Americans don't want to fund the defense of Europe. Europe has to do a full rearmament or face the threat of war with Russia, with little help from the Americans again to see though a victory and defeat of Russia. Europeans have to wake up and realize "daddy America" does not care about defeating Russia, about crushing Russia.

White House downplays CNN poll showing majority of Americans oppose more US aid for Ukraine​

Last week, a CNN poll showed that overall, 55% say Congress should not authorize additional funding to support Ukraine vs. 45% who say Congress should authorize such funding. And 51% say that the US has already done enough to help Ukraine while 48% say it should do more. A poll conducted in the early days of the Russian invasion in late February 2022 found 62% who felt the US should have been doing more.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/09/politics/white-house-responds-cnn-poll/index.html

Many months ago I said the US media needs to do wall to wall, non-stop coverage of atrocities in Ukraine to garner public support for the funding of the war. That did not happen and the MAGA position took over the public majority. The MAGA position is the position to end funding to Ukraine.

The incubator babies was a lie. It is us media policy to not cover the true worst horror stories from Ukraine and cover them 24/7 with new horror stories, to get the entire American public to support Biden sending as much arms to Ukraine as needed to crush the Russians. Because this does not happen, instead the media focused on lies for months on Iraq.

I posted this in February. Americans would sooner call the Bucha massacre a false flag, than crush the Russians with enough weapons to Ukraine for Ukraine to decisively crush the Russians... with air power F-16, ATACMS, more Bradleys and tanks and much needed ammo and equipment to continue the war.

The corporate neo-liberal media does not care about Ukraine and Europe, they are only filling the role of your handler and supporter, without caring about you, instead they would twist things and say you are ungrateful to demand more when the fate of Europe is in the balance and Europe needs more for their very security and independence. Americans sent thousands of tanks, thousands of planes and tens and hundreds of thousands of equipment in the lend lease. To defeat Anglo enemy - Germany, that was their enemy and supported the Soviets to defeat their enemy. Putin is not their enemy, Putin is on the side of the neo-nationalists in the UK and US. Putin is Anglo friend, enemy of Continental Europeans. Putin is YOUR enemy Europe. So Europe has to rearm, has wasted a year and a half. Can Europe sustain a 5 year with Russia. No they would run out of ammo. And soon after run out of equipment.

I have no clue why I waste my time with this.

 

[zectech]

Good move

Rheinmetall buys 50 leopards 1 from Belgium. 30 pieces will be refitted and delivered to Ukraine.


View attachment 944810

Kampfpanzer Leopard-1: Rheinmetall hat nach einem Bericht des „Handelsblatts“ 50 Stück aus Belgien aufgekauft; 30 sollen neu ausgerüstet und in die Ukraine geliefert werden. (imago / Sven Eckelkamp )

Rheinmetall liefert der Ukraine Leopard-1-Panzer

Der Rüstungskonzern Rheinmetall will der Ukraine offenbar 30 Leopard-1-Panzer liefern, die er aus belgischem Bestand aufarbeitet.

www.deutschlandfunk.de

Europe needs to rearm and Ukraine needs weapons.

Without Europe stockpiling weapons and ammo in a full rearmament, if Russia invades the EU, Europeans could be refugees in safe Ukraine. Safe with the weapons and ammo sent there.

US, UK, Canada have no security risk from a land invasion, therefore sending half their reserve military army equipment is of no concern. For EU member states to send up to half their stockpiles to Ukraine it is hair pulling when these are not being quickly replaced in grand European rearmament.

So you want to risk the security of Europe on Russia would stop invading neighbors after Ukraine. Based on Russian history of the past two decades, this could be wishful thinking.

Rearmament could easily prevent a war with Russia, as Putin would be spooked with a powerful enemy. Getting nukes in equal number to Russia would be the decisive factor in keeping peace in Europe. As most agree if Ukraine never gave up nukes, Russia would not be threatening the nuking of Ukraine. Putin has conventional forces and nuclear forces, getting more or equal to each, Europe can call Putin's threats and bluffs and prevent war. Europe would not be prey to blackmail and worse.

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1689369774696849409

 

[The SC]

Summer Operations | The Ukrainian Northern Flank Collapsed. Military Summary And Analysis 2023.08.09​

 

[MeFishToo]

Overall - how many A1's are in storage ? Not seen any reliable figures anywhere. Given the type of tank warfare in ukraine right now, A1's are more than enough.

I believe Rheinmetall had 90 and FFG had 100, and this Belgium firm has 50. So around 250 Leopard 1A5 in storage in Europe. The remaining Leopard 1 in Europe, I think its some 800, is operated by Turkey and Greece, and they seem to prepare to fight each other indefinitely so they wont be available.
Edit: apparently around 130 Leopard 1A? are stored in Italy but belongs to Swiss company, so cant be exported.

 

[MeFishToo]

Summer Operations | The Ukrainian Northern Flank Collapsed. Military Summary And Analysis 2023.08.09​

Two weeks of massive russian attack at the Kupiansk front according to pro russian youtubers:

 

[That Guy]

Two weeks of massive russian attack at the Kupiansk front according to pro russian youtubers:
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Lmao, fuckin annihilated that guy.

 

[Deino]

Interesting find … remains of a R-37M

https://twitter.com/x/status/1689513175421534208

 

[Viet]

Overall - how many A1's are in storage ? Not seen any reliable figures anywhere. Given the type of tank warfare in ukraine right now, A1's are more than enough.

Lets do the marh

The German army had received 2,400 leopard 1. 2,700 were exported. So in total 5,100 pieces. Excluding the leopard 1 in stocks at tank manufacturers Rheinmetall, KfW. Could add several hundreds. After reunification West Germany reduced the tank army as part of the deal to reunification with east Germany.
It’s said 800 were dismantled. 5,100-800= 4,300.

Considering the materials are made of massive combined stainless steel the tanks can last 70 years without any scratches.

Germany approved 178 leopard 1 to Ukraine. So there is still rooms to send more.

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