Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1584254392550977536

https://twitter.com/x/status/1584203179910045696

https://twitter.com/x/status/1584198832510095361

https://twitter.com/x/status/1584162957675859968

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Sry in advance if someone posted this already

https://twitter.com/x/status/1584187919509880833

 

[Ali_Baba]

A washing machine retails between 400 and 500 euros on Amazon.de depending on western or China made. That’s a pricy booty. Russia minimum wage is 160 euros per month. If they just steal some washing machines they probably can sell for 1,000 euros apiece on Russia black market.

Might be cheaper to end this war by offering a free washing machine to each Russian soldier if they up arms and surrender for their free ticket for a washing machine that can be redeemed ...

 

[Hack-Hook]

It does not matter.
If You deliver weapons to a belligerent party in a war, then you are no longer neutral. This means that the other side can take every measure in the book to stop your deliveries.
Russia can try to stop Western deliveries of weapons to Ukraine within NATO borders as NATO is not neutral, but is well aware of the consequences.
Ukraine however might reason that the incremental drawback of Iran joining isso small that getting even is more important.

you are completely wrong on that.

Be patient, They'll be easy to track and caught - my sources are from different news outlets

well , so till then, there is no Iranian personnel in ukraine

Be patient, They'll be easy to track and caught - my sources are from different news outlets

well , so till then, there is no Iranian personnel in ukraine

Iran is abandoning its neutrality by delivering weapons to a belligerent.
It can therefore legally be attacked by the other side including allies.

again completely wrong according to international laws and norms.
first there is no international rule , sanction or anything to prevent Iran export weapon to anyone we like or Russia to import weapon from Iran.
second the amoount of the uav neing used show that they actually are manufactured in russsia not delivered from iran,they are only Iranian by design

Since Russias war is an illegal war of aggression, which is a violation of the UN charter, Irans weapons deliveries is an affront to the UN, and there may be consequences.

not really until UNSC say so

My favourite idea is for the US to lease Navy Ships to Ukraine complete with crew which run a blockade on Iran. Any oil tanker with Iranian Oil should be grabbed and the oil sold for the benefit of Ukraine,

and may favorite part is what will happen to those poor sailors

 

[The SC]

The dirty nuclear bomb and the Kakhovka dam..

 

[MeFishToo]

and you failed to provide penetration capabilities of top attack TOW , how much it is ?
let me tell you we tested such system it was only 100mm. Javelin is about 800mm


no as pointed here , jast practicing NATO and USA textbook , its not our problem ,what russia do with our weapon . we didn't sold them to them to use them in Ukraine

Sure you did. Ive already shown you a test of a TOW 2B against a T72. Just scroll back to see the result.

Ah come on, the difference between s band and x band radar is the difference between 15cm and 3cm. You are saying Iran drones are smaller than 15cm?

These drones are the size of a flying car.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Sure you did. Ive already shown you a test of a TOW 2B against a T72. Just scroll back to see the result.


These drones are the size of a flying car.

T72-a without era , and 28cm at thickest point when you look at it from top but only 80mm at the nose of turret , and average of 200mm and worst of all its not a composite armor , its cast Iron
as i said the penetration was around 100mm , a javelin have at least 750mm of penetration
and

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

you are completely wrong on that.


well , so till then, there is no Iranian personnel in ukraine


well , so till then, there is no Iranian personnel in ukraine

again completely wrong according to international laws and norms.
first there is no international rule , sanction or anything to prevent Iran export weapon to anyone we like or Russia to import weapon from Iran.
second the amoount of the uav neing used show that they actually are manufactured in russsia not delivered from iran,they are only Iranian by design

not really until UNSC say so

and may favorite part is what will happen to those poor sailors

This is what the Red Cross has to say about neutrality - for the second time.

so Iran is no longer neutral.
As a non-neutral power supporting an illegal war, you think there will be no consequences…
There are plenty of consequences that does not need to involve the UNSC.

 

[MeFishToo]

T72-a without era , and 28cm at thickest point when you look at it from top but only 80mm at the nose of turret , and average of 200mm and worst of all its not a composite armor , its cast Iron
as i said the penetration was around 100mm , a javelin have at least 750mm of penetration
and

All these statistics of armor penetration are irrelevant using top attack against 50 years old sovjet made equipment. What ever the ukrainians are facing in a defensive position, the TOW system is going to be effective 3.000+ meters down range.
Im not going to waste anymore time on this.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

This is what the Red Cross has to say about neutrality - for the second time.
View attachment 888818
so Iran is no longer neutral.
As a non-neutral power supporting an illegal war, you think there will be no consequences…
There are plenty of consequences that does not need to involve the UNSC.

Red Cross and Vatican helped thousands of Nazis to escape​

This article is more than 11 years old
Research shows how travel documents ended up in hands of the likes of Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele and Klaus Barbie in the postwar chaos

SS officers at Auschwitz in 1944. From left: Richard Baer, who became the commandant of Auschwitz in May 1944, Josef Mengele, commandant of Birkenau Josef Kramer, hidden, and the former commandant of Auschwitz Rudolf Höss, foreground; the man on the right is unidentified. Photograph: AP

Dalya Alberge
Wed 25 May 2011 15.31 BST


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The Red Cross and the Vatican both helped thousands of Nazi war criminals and collaborators to escape after the second world war, according to a book that pulls together evidence from unpublished documents.
The Red Cross has previously acknowledged that its efforts to help refugees were used by Nazis because administrators were overwhelmed, but the research suggests the numbers were much higher than thought.

Gerald Steinacher, a research fellow at Harvard University, was given access to thousands of internal documents in the archives of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). The documents include Red Cross travel documents issued mistakenly to Nazis in the postwar chaos.
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They throw light on how and why mass murderers such as Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele and Klaus Barbie and thousands of others evaded capture by the allies.
By comparing lists of wanted war criminals to travel documents, Steinacher says Britain and Canada alone inadvertently took in around 8,000 former Waffen-SS members in 1947, many on the basis of valid documents issued mistakenly.
The documents – which are discussed in Steinacher's book Nazis on the Run: How Hitler's henchmen fled justice – offer a significant insight into Vatican thinking, particularly, because its own archives beyond 1939 are still closed. The Vatican has consistently refused to comment.
Steinacher believes the Vatican's help was based on a hoped-for revival of European Christianity and dread of the Soviet Union. But through the Vatican Refugee Commission, war criminals were knowingly provided with false identities.
The Red Cross, overwhelmed by millions of refugees, relied substantially on Vatican references and the often cursory Allied military checks in issuing travel papers, known as 10.100s.
It believed it was primarily helping innocent refugees although correspondence between Red Cross delegations in Genoa, Rome and Geneva shows it was aware Nazis were getting through.
"Although the ICRC has publicly apologised, its action went well beyond helping a few people," said Steinacher.
Steinacher says the documents indicate that the Red Cross, mostly in Rome or Genoa, issued at least 120,000 of the 10.100s, and that 90% of ex-Nazis fled via Italy, mostly to Spain, and North and South America – notably Argentina.
Former SS members often mixed with genuine refugees and presented themselves as stateless ethnic Germans to gain transit papers. Jews trying to get to Palestine via Italy were sometimes smuggled over the border with escaping Nazis.
Steinacher says that individual Red Cross delegations issued war criminals with 10.100s "out of sympathy for individuals … political attitude, or simply because they were overburdened". Stolen documents were also used to whisk Nazis to safety. He said: "They were really in a dilemma. It was difficult. It wanted to get rid of the job. Nobody wanted to do it."
The Red Cross refused to comment directly on Steinacher's findings but the organisation says on its website: "The ICRC has previously deplored the fact that Eichmann and other Nazi criminals misused its travel documents to cover their tracks."

Red Cross and Vatican helped thousands of Nazis to escape

Research shows how travel documents ended up in hands of the likes of Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele and Klaus Barbie in the postwar chaos

www.theguardian.com

 

[_Nabil_]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1584085996421156866

 

[jamal18]

1. A lot of info about a possible Ukrainian false flag nuclear attack. Either a nuclear warhead or a 'dirty bomb' in Ukraines hands is about to be detonated and blamed on Russia.

2. A lot of Radio chatter about Belarus. With the end of the 'SMO' and the war moving to a new level, it seems that an occupation of Kiev is the only way. A Russian attack from Belarus to take Kiev looks on the cards.

3. Petraeus, considered Biden's unofficial spokesman, said that the US might lead an 'international' force into Ukraine. Large number of US and Nato forces now located near the Ukrainian border.

It doesn't seem to be de-escalating.

 

[ziaulislam]

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

1. A lot of info about a possible Ukrainian false flag nuclear attack. Either a nuclear warhead or a 'dirty bomb' in Ukraines hands is about to be detonated and blamed on Russia.

2. A lot of Radio chatter about Belarus. With the end of the 'SMO' and the war moving to a new level, it seems that an occupation of Kiev is the only way. A Russian attack from Belarus to take Kiev looks on the cards.

3. Petraeus, considered Biden's unofficial spokesman, said that the US might lead an 'international' force into Ukraine. Large number of US and Nato forces now located near the Ukrainian border.

It doesn't seem to be de-escalating.

NATO is all trained and deployed on the Ukrainian border.

They just need an excuse to enter Ukraine war officially.

NATO has realized that this is the best opportunity to balkanize Russia.

Internationally countries are either supporting NATO or refraining from supporting Russia.

 

[MeFishToo]

1. A lot of info about a possible Ukrainian false flag nuclear attack. Either a nuclear warhead or a 'dirty bomb' in Ukraines hands is about to be detonated and blamed on Russia.

2. A lot of Radio chatter about Belarus. With the end of the 'SMO' and the war moving to a new level, it seems that an occupation of Kiev is the only way. A Russian attack from Belarus to take Kiev looks on the cards.

3. Petraeus, considered Biden's unofficial spokesman, said that the US might lead an 'international' force into Ukraine. Large number of US and Nato forces now located near the Ukrainian border.

It doesn't seem to be de-escalating.

Russia is “escalating“ by words. Your first two points are russian propaganda and the third is taken out of context. Petraeus was giving his opion as to what would happen if Russia were going to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine.