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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

which conflict exactly Iran started ?
don't you think for your comment to become true ,Iran must first start a conflict.
by the way are you aware that our drones and balistic missile don't care much about enemy rasons for its action .
While Russia started the war, Iran started the conflict between Iran and Ukraine by abandoning its neutrality.
By supporting an illegal war of aggression, Iran is supporting war crimes.
 
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Thats not the point. Point is he claimed TOW 2B in top attack couldnt hurt a tank or any armor, just humvees or infantry, which is false. The TOW system is just as effective an anti tank missile as the ukrainian version. He is just deflecting, taking about effective armor penetration, fire and forget, crew based etc. I will bet no infantry unit is carrying a Javelin system around on foot anyway. Its transported by anti tank units in vehicles or stored somewhere in a trench system.
and you failed to provide penetration capabilities of top attack TOW , how much it is ?
let me tell you we tested such system it was only 100mm. Javelin is about 800mm

While Russia started the war, Iran started the conflict between Iran and Ukraine by abandoning its neutrality.
By supporting an illegal war of aggression, Iran is supporting war crimes.
no as pointed here , jast practicing NATO and USA textbook , its not our problem ,what russia do with our weapon . we didn't sold them to them to use them in Ukraine
 
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Fact is the TOW system is going to destroy any armor the russians are going to field on the open plains of Ukraine. Its nothing like youre portraying it.
The TOW system is basically the NATO version of the Stuhna. I think the ukrainians will manage to use it for ambush or static defence as theyve done with the Stuhna.
Ukraine have recieved 10.000? Javelin missiles and 50.000? NLAW, EC LAW, Matador.. theyll find some use of the TOW systems range.

How are they going to move TOW around with no fuel? Russia bombed all their power plants. No electricity. No oil refining.
 
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While I didn't agree on earlier points, on an intellectual basis there is no restriction on Iran supplying drones. That much I will agree with you , and Iran could potentially be a supplier to both sides.

But why is Iran denying it drone supplies? Why not hang head high in the air with conviction and basis of their decision to the same level you have it. THats not a trick it learned from the west?
russia uses at least 40-50 each day , that is more than iran can ship , it seems the drone is iranian design made in Russia
 
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I wish there were trackers in Washing machines - that map would light up like a christmas tree of stolen washing machines in Russia ( imagine a country so primitive that you have steal a washing machine of all things ........ ).
A washing machine retails between 400 and 500 euros on Amazon.de depending on western or China made. That’s a pricy booty. Russia minimum wage is 160 euros per month. If they just steal some washing machines they probably can sell for 1,000 euros apiece on Russia black market.
 
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That’s not new. Kalibr cruise missiles work on the same principle. That’s not a se cret, lots of cruise missiles work the same way. They turn off onboard radars to avoid early detection. If Iran drone work so with on/off guidance then ok.
I think you misunderstood. Gepard is a flak tank it is designed to fight deep and very fast flying enemy aircraft and helicopters, not high flying objects. Gepard has 2 radars acquisition radar and fire control radar. Slow flying objects as Iran drones are easy targets at all. Germany has 420 Gepard flak tanks. Ukraine gets the gepards because they are getting aged they are replaced by higher performance flak tanks of Rheinmetall.

you see , German Gepard , use S and Ku band radars , netherland ones use X-band radar.
I don't say they can't shootdown drones they detect . I say the problem is detection.
Like all radars they have a tracking ranfe and a detection range , its not fixed for all targets its depend on RCS.
All I say the data published for Gepard is against normal drones not a low RCS one like Shahed-136 . this is Shahed-136 RCS

do you think Gepard have the same detection range and engagement range for TB-2 and Gran-2 ?
as i said , its how air-defence had problem with engaging F-117 but there was no such problem with F-4
if Gepard is to be effective it must be used in hundreds not just several hand me down you say germany have 420 , are they ready to build another 420 and hand all 840 to Ukraine ?
 
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Even the ”dragonteeth” are fake.

This is the real thing. The different teeth are connected and not easily moved.
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They were cross-linked as well. With WW2 explosives, high strengths concretes would've taken quite an effort to blast

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you see , German Gepard , use S and Ku band radars , netherland ones use X-band radar.
I don't say they can't shootdown drones they detect . I say the problem is detection.
Like all radars they have a tracking ranfe and a detection range , its not fixed for all targets its depend on RCS.
All I say the data published for Gepard is against normal drones not a low RCS one like Shahed-136 . this is Shahed-136 RCS

do you think Gepard have the same detection range and engagement range for TB-2 and Gran-2 ?
as i said , its how air-defence had problem with engaging F-117 but there was no such problem with F-4
if Gepard is to be effective it must be used in hundreds not just several hand me down you say germany have 420 , are they ready to build another 420 and hand all 840 to Ukraine ?
Ah come on, the difference between s band and x band radar is the difference between 15cm and 3cm. You are saying Iran drones are smaller than 15cm?
 
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you see , German Gepard , use S and Ku band radars , netherland ones use X-band radar.
I don't say they can't shootdown drones they detect . I say the problem is detection.
Like all radars they have a tracking ranfe and a detection range , its not fixed for all targets its depend on RCS.
All I say the data published for Gepard is against normal drones not a low RCS one like Shahed-136 . this is Shahed-136 RCS

do you think Gepard have the same detection range and engagement range for TB-2 and Gran-2 ?
as i said , its how air-defence had problem with engaging F-117 but there was no such problem with F-4
if Gepard is to be effective it must be used in hundreds not just several hand me down you say germany have 420 , are they ready to build another 420 and hand all 840 to Ukraine ?

Gepard range is 3-4km. At 4km it's hard to not to detect even a bird

But you need quite a number of them to be effective

At 4km it's really only a point defence system, not area defence.
 
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did really what i think I see happened , the pilot was trying to do a loop and failed ?

They had plenty of time to eject - does seem to suggest an ejection failure ( maybe someone stole/sold the ejection cartridges? Or maybe the ejection cartridges were painted milk bottles and some one took the funds for themselves... not so hard to believe in todays Russia ... ) if the pilots died in the crash ..
they were upside down don't knew if the Russian ejection sit designed to operate in that position
 
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