Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[ZeGerman]

Are you Indian a blatantly liar for your white masters, no wonder the whites love you lackeys so much that you are being promoted to many CEO of western countries becos you people will clean the sh** for whites.

Nice. Racist much?

All the wars that the West waged on the others countries since WW II are invasions and not justified, period.

Source “trust me bro”
North korea attacked south korea, iraq attacked kuwait, syria was civil war with very little inbolvement, mostly assad/russia really.
And in WW2 apart from germany and italy we have soviet union and japan as agressors as well.

But all these facts and details get thrown overboard by your fantasy of “west=bad”
And “rest of world=victim”

Infantile…

As for the millions from our countries who migrated to the West, absolute majority of them are for economic reasons since the West is more developed, only a few are for political asylum, you dumb ignorant Indian.

Ah leeching off the stolen western wealth.
Leeching of our hospitality.

Since you are so moral i will wait till you scream that they should refund this…

Are you that dumb that you pretend to not hear and read about the news of racial violence, hatred and discrimination and even persecutions by the western govs for no good reasons against coloured minorities esp Asians these days in US, Australia and EU ? Are you blind or deaf ? Where the f do you get the idea that the coloured minorities esp Asians are being treated well.

Blown out of proportion massively.
If a society goes from 97% white to 50% white in 3 generations, you have a lot of interactions between people and also more friction.
Despite that, the social mobility, education, income chances are high. Chinese for instance are in a better economic class then whites…within 2 generations. This shows a great deal of equality and tolerance, despite the bad apples.

Tell me your heritage? Then lets zoom in on minority rights and treatment in your region ok? It is often ATROCIOUs compared to the west so dont give such a big mouth?

One more thing, how thick face is you Indian, the white lackey, in your opinion, what are being looted and stolen such as the lands of the Natives and treasures of other countries are indeed belong to your white masters since they got them now, these lands and treasures shouldn't be returned to the rightful owners ?

You do realise arabs and islam hained immense lands through conquest?

Can greeks get asia minor back?
Hindus pakistan?

Oh your logic should only apply to the western whites? Ok buddy…

These show how hypocritical and thick faced thieves these white people are, and you are one of them that is proud of their crimes and you are against the need for recourse, just a thick faced and shameless thief mentality that you have. And you scorn on the idea of the need for recourse on these Heinous crimes by Europeans such as stealing lands from the Natives and looting treasures from other people as stupidity, what a whitemen's f slave you are !,

West already is making apologies, sending back architectural treasures, and accepting minorities into their country as equals.

What the **** has your country of origin ever done? You think i do not know history of the millions murdered and enslaved by the turks/arabs/mughals?

Your so called morals are mere crocodile tears. They apply only till where it benefits you. Its disgusting.

 

[ZeGerman]

Of course they loot, great example was the Ottoman Empire, with countless examples such as the capture of Constantinople, Nice, Trebizond, Mystras, etc., illegal export of antiquities.

Plundered empire: acquiring antiquities from Ottoman lands – Bryn Mawr Classical Review

bmcr.brynmawr.edu

Come on now, muslims never do bad things.

Barbary slave trade - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Estimate over million europeans enslaved. Many many looting and plundering.

I means just see how kindly they developed and uplifted the town of Vieste:
“In 1554 corsairs under Dragut sacked Vieste, beheaded 5,000 of its inhabitants, and abducted another 6,000.”

 

[NotSure]

Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev published a map on which Ukraine does not exist, and its territories are part of other countries. .
According to the map, the Ukraine’s territory would limit only to Kyiv region, while the rest would be under the administration of four other countries: Russia, Poland, Hungary and Romania.

Romanian Ministry of Foreign Affairs reports in a press release state that........ "Such attitudes are part of the propaganda and disinformation tools that the Russian Federation has been using for a long time and that was amplified after the start of the illegal and illegitimate war of aggression against Ukraine,”"


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Ah, i got it. It's a part of russian propaganda and disinformation tools. And at the same time it perfectly normal and ok, when the polish state tv showing a ukrainian map, with western parts occupied by Poland.

 

[etylo]

Nice. Racist much?


Source “trust me bro”
North korea attacked south korea, iraq attacked kuwait, syria was civil war with very little inbolvement, mostly assad/russia really.
And in WW2 apart from germany and italy we have soviet union and japan as agressors as well.

But all these facts and details get thrown overboard by your fantasy of “west=bad”
And “rest of world=victim”

Infantile…

Ah leeching off the stolen western wealth.
Leeching of our hospitality.

Since you are so moral i will wait till you scream that they should refund this…

Blown out of proportion massively.
If a society goes from 97% white to 50% white in 3 generations, you have a lot of interactions between people and also more friction.
Despite that, the social mobility, education, income chances are high. Chinese for instance are in a better economic class then whites…within 2 generations. This shows a great deal of equality and tolerance, despite the bad apples.

Tell me your heritage? Then lets zoom in on minority rights and treatment in your region ok? It is often ATROCIOUs compared to the west so dont give such a big mouth?


You do realise arabs and islam hained immense lands through conquest?

Can greeks get asia minor back?
Hindus pakistan?

Oh your logic should only apply to the western whites? Ok buddy…

West already is making apologies, sending back architectural treasures, and accepting minorities into their country as equals.

What the **** has your country of origin ever done? You think i do not know history of the millions murdered and enslaved by the turks/arabs/mughals?

Your so called morals are mere crocodile tears. They apply only till where it benefits you. Its disgusting.

Yo can deny all you Europeans' heinous crimes against other people in the past centuries and blame others for your West's unjustified wars on others since WW II. You German or Dutch has the least right to lecture others in the world about morals and racism in condescending manner since you people committed the worst and bloodiest crimes such as genocides and killings in the past centuries in your colonization and conquests. And, why are those looted treasures from the world are still sitting the British, French and other European museums now ? You people are just shameless, refuse to hand the looted treasures back to the original owners, that's all. And, you think there is no need for the recourse of stealing lands from the Natives and plundering wealth from other countries, just thief mentality. You European countries are accepting some refugees from the Mideast is becos you Europeans and Americans are responsible for creating those refugees in the first place by waging wars in those countries. You European countries are also allowing some immigrants to your countries is becos you people need work force to keep up your standard of living. There is no benevolence on you Europeans, don't BS how great you Europeans are !

 

[Hack-Hook]

Iris has the same range. So what is the difference between Iris and Buk? What makes Iris better? You don’t know? I give you a hint: it’s like when you buy a German car and Russia car. When driving a German car you feel great. In Russia car you don’t feel so much greatness. Your life is at risk.

Engage fighters which flight up to 20km but buk can engage enemy fighter at altitude of 27km
Also range on iris is about 25 to 30km on buk its around 40km
Hope you now knew more why iris won't help
And let not go into one is infrared guided another is radar guided.

 

[Hack-Hook]

The rest of the world participated in the killings during the World Wars.
That is why they were called World Wars.
The responsibility for the wars lies with Germany, the Soviet Union and Japan.
Most of ”the West” were fighting them.

Wasn't Russia your ally?
What about Italy, Greece, East Europeans?

All the world participating in the killing? Don't make joke it was Europeans and Japan that began the killing and attacked everyone who was neutral have you forget your history so soon.

 

[NotSure]

Engage fighters which flight up to 20km but buk can engage enemy fighter at altitude of 27km
Also range on iris is about 25 to 30km on buk its around 40km
Hope you now knew more why iris won't help
And let not go into one is infrared guided another is radar guided.

These numbers are nonsense. They are for an A2A engagement, so the missile already has ~300m/s speed + the altitude of the fighter jet. Second: Max ranges are for the head on engagement.

But as a SAM this tiny (88kg!) missile has a small fraction of the range, because it has first to gain altitude and speed. Considering the small mass of only 88kg i would say the maximum range is around 10km and so the max. altitude. Not more, because it's kinematically impossible.

The Buk-M1 is a complete another league with nearly 10 times (!) the mass. You can't cheat physics and this Viet spam bot has obviously a serious lack in education.

 

[Hack-Hook]

These numbers are nonsense. They are for an A2A engagement, so the missile already has ~300m/s speed + the altitude of the fighter jet. Second: Max ranges are for the head on engagement.

Well it's true that firing the missile from altitude and at high speed give them More range.
But let give them the benefit of doubt as they increased the diameter from around 130mm on air launched version to around 150mm on ground launched version.
Even if it was not for range Iris will have the limitation of infrared missiles

I still wonder why some people equal western origin of anything as being superior. They may be mere beautiful or more ergonomic. But better!??

 

[ZeGerman]

Yo can deny all you Europeans' heinous crimes against other people in the past centuries and blame others for your West's unjustified wars on others since WW II.

Where do I deny it?

I will not stay silent when others (also with bucketloads of historical blood on their hands) act innocent, and critisize the current europeans (who show high tolerance and equality) while their own countries of origin rank horrendously on many scores of minority treatment/freedom/social mobility.

You German or Dutch has the least right to lecture others in the world about morals and racism in condescending manner since you people committed the worst and bloodiest crimes such as genocides and killings in the past centuries in your colonization and conquests.

Why can i not point out wrongs (russia annexing ukraine..a country they horribly mistreated in past) ?
Because countrymen 200 years ago were acting horrible? My own forefathers were dutch duck hunters and simple shopowners.

Nonsense logic.

And, why are those looted treasures from the world are still sitting the British, French and other European museums now ? You people are just shameless, refuse to hand the looted treasures back to the original owners, that's all.

Severa is sent back. More so will follow.

And, you think there is no need for the recourse of stealing lands from the Natives and plundering wealth from other countries, just thief mentality.

History is a spiderweb of nations stealing and plundering.

Should turks go back to near mongolia?

You European countries are accepting some refugees from the Mideast is becos you Europeans and Americans are responsible for creating those refugees in the first place by waging wars in those countries.

Dont racistly pile all europeans together for mostly USA wars.

And we accept hundred of thousanda of refugees, also from countries we have nothing to do with. There goes your slander.

You European countries are also allowing some immigrants to your countries is becos you people need work force to keep up your standard of living. There is no benevolence on you Europeans, don't BS how great you Europeans are !

We are lenient to many refugees and migrant which cost us billions in net revenue. Fact that goes against your slander once again.
Allowing moroccans to stay in the 80s when there was a crisis and they were mostly unemployed.
Taking in so many low educated from vastly different culture…this is quite unique

 

[NotSure]

I still wonder why some people equal western origin of anything as being superior. They may be mere beautiful or more ergonomic. But better!??

A lack of even the basic education in science, but instead an even bigger ego, because they live here in the west. So they think, they are some superior humans, the so called "Herrenmensch".

 

[Lehrasap]

All those people who today deny the Humanitarian and Justice system of the Western world are UNGRATEFUL people.
They are brainwashed people.
Many of them even live in the Western countries themselves.
Many of them even take the social benefits from the Western States, but are still UNGRATEFUL.

It was the SECULAR West, who hugged them and gave them refuge, but these ungrateful people put a dragger in the back of this same SECULAR West with this behavior.

They are actually killing the Secular Humanity Loving Forces in the West, and they are empowering the Far-Right Western Forces, which have equally ignorant and humanity killer attitude as these ungrateful people themselves.

When these far-right Western forces kick them out from their countries, then these same ungrateful people will start crying.

 

[etylo]

Severa is sent back. More so will follow.

Several is sent back, yeah, by this going, it's going to take thousands of years maybe to return the looted treasures, so are you proud now ?

History is a spiderweb of nations stealing and plundering.

Should turks go back to near mongolia?

Since you Europeans think you have highest standard of human rights and are morally right above others now, don't you think you people should do some recourse of the worst heinous crimes in human history of your killings, plundering and stealing. Others might had done some plundering and stealing in history is no excuse for you Europeans to escape from your responsibility from those heinous crimes since you people are still benefiting now from your ancestors' crimes. Don't BS how great you Europeans are !

Real Turks in history who lived near Mongolia basically have very little to do with current Turks in Turkey even though both are called Turks. Turkey is a Mediterranean country.

Dont racistly pile all europeans together for mostly USA wars.

Many of you European countries such as Britain, France, Germany and your country Netherlands also participated nearly all the wars that NATO has waged such as Iraq, Afghan, Syria and Libya wars. So, don't pretend to be innocent.

 

[Soldier35]

The footage of the fire support groups of the Russian army aviation was shown by the Ministry of Defense. The subunits escort military columns, fly out to places of detection of sabotage groups and cover army aviation helicopters from the air. In this video, the group flew out to check the car found by drones in the forest belt.

In Sevastopol, at about 6 am, an explosion thundered in the courtyard of the Headquarters of the Russian Fleet. There is no video of the incident, only a few photos so far. It is officially reported that the strike was carried out by a Ukrainian drone, and rumors are spreading online about a breakthrough by the Ukrainian army of the Russian air defense system. According to the latest reports, the drone and explosive device were improvised, a low-power explosion occurred in the courtyard of the fleet headquarters and shattered window panes in several rooms of the building. As a result of the scattering of fragments, 6 people were injured. Judging by these facts, it can be assumed that the drone was launched from the territory of the Crimea or the city of Sevastopol, and this strike is actually a local act of sabotage. The authorities have already confirmed that a homemade drone was launched in Sevastopol.

 

[ZeGerman]

Several is sent back, yeah, by this going, it's going to take thousands of years maybe to return the looted treasures, so are you proud now ?

Its a snowball effect. First the notion did not even exist.
Same how europeans eventually ended slavery. enforcing many arab nations to do the same.

Since you Europeans think you have highest standard of human rights and are morally right above others now, don't you think you people should do some recourse of the worst heinous crimes in human history of your killings, plundering and stealing.

Apologizing, setting the highest standards in equality and opportunities. Allowing others in to become a multi-ethnic state.
I think we are on a pretty good track considering where we started. Ofcourse always room for inprovement.

I see little of this positive change among the “ummah”. We have several guys in this thread literally lying about how muslim conquest was beneficial and uplifting.

And then we should bow our heads when these try to racistly slander all europeans?
For **** sake..look at your minority rights and migration laws hmmm?

Others might had done some plundering and stealing in history is no excuse for you Europeans to escape from your responsibility from those heinous crimes since you people are still benefiting now from your ancestors' crimes. Don't BS how great you Europeans are !

Real Turks in history who lived near Mongolia basically have very little to do with current Turks in Turkey even though both are called Turks. Turkey is a Mediterranean country.

Showing your double face again huh?
Turks today shouldnt bear their forefathers sins but whites should.

What an argument. Go crawl back under your racist stone

As for Nato wars named.
Europe has 30 plus countries, you name 4…guess “we all look alike” for you?

But lets do the list.
iraq. Germany, france were against. usa lied to get more justification. Saddam was a dictator attacking kuwait and kurds.

Afghanistan. Kicking out al qaeda terrorists. Very low human cost. Putting billions in humanitarian aid, improving afghan life.

Syria. Hardly any involvement…assad vs color revolution with russia helping to petrol bomb cities…dont deflect blame.

Libya, Gaddafi. Another dictator. Again usa manipulation on “massacres”.


We recently took in a lot of somalians, eritreans and erhiopeans, even some rohingya, yezidis. We are involved in some conflicts…but again you twist the truth in pretending the only reason we take in refugees is because they are fleeing “our” wars.
Besides, helping afghans who were pro-western and now under threat is humanitarian….


Seriously, stop generalizing, stop your racism, stop your slander.
Look in the mirror before you throw stones.
Especially since you are benefiting from our hospitality….living and profiting in a western nation…but acting like a hateful parasite.

 

[etylo]

Its a snowball effect. First the notion did not even exist.
Same how europeans eventually ended slavery. enforcing many arab nations to do the same.

Apologizing, setting the highest standards in equality and opportunities. Allowing others in to become a multi-ethnic state.
I think we are on a pretty good track considering where we started. Ofcourse always room for inprovement.

I see little of this positive change among the “ummah”. We have several guys in this thread literally lying about how muslim conquest was beneficial and uplifting.

And then we should bow our heads when these try to racistly slander all europeans?
For **** sake..look at your minority rights and migration laws hmmm?

Showing your double face again huh?
Turks today shouldnt bear their forefathers sins but whites should.

What an argument. Go crawl back under your racist stone

As for Nato wars named.
Europe has 30 plus countries, you name 4…guess “we all look alike” for you?

But lets do the list.
iraq. Germany, france were against. usa lied to get more justification. Saddam was a dictator attacking kuwait and kurds.

Afghanistan. Kicking out al qaeda terrorists. Very low human cost. Putting billions in humanitarian aid, improving afghan life.

Syria. Hardly any involvement…assad vs color revolution with russia helping to petrol bomb cities…dont deflect blame.

Libya, Gaddafi. Another dictator. Again usa manipulation on “massacres”.


We recently took in a lot of somalians, eritreans and erhiopeans, even some rohingya, yezidis. We are involved in some conflicts…but again you twist the truth in pretending the only reason we take in refugees is because they are fleeing “our” wars.
Besides, helping afghans who were pro-western and now under threat is humanitarian….


Seriously, stop generalizing, stop your racism, stop your slander.
Look in the mirror before you throw stones.
Especially since you are benefiting from our hospitality….living and profiting in a western nation…but acting like a hateful parasite.

Oh yeah, you think you NATO countries are so benevolent and doing all good for them to wage all those wars on other people ? Don't BS. Who are the arrogant racist here ? It's not me, I am just pointing out the facts and your high ego can't take it. You still have the mentality that you whites own the world, and also the universe, right ?

The Turks in Turkey have very little to do with the real Turks 11 centuries ago who lived near Mongolia both genetically and historically. Turks in Turkey are basically not descendants of the real Turks in history who lived near Mongolia. What's there to compare the two "Turks" with you Europeans ? What's the double standard on my part ?