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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

@Vergennes is French.

French don't like the Anglo Saxons (Americans, British , Germans).

France is preparing to quit NATO shortly.
And you know this because you wanted with the French parliament just now and we don't know the results? The French are their own identity yes, but may be you haven't heard they are shipping mor artillery to the war zone. This would be like saying Russia is ending because of all the military brass that Putin keeps firing or heads of companies dying in hospital beds. Sounds ridicilous
 
Europe is not most of the world.
Most of the world DID NOT support Russia, Most of the population of the world, namely China and India, are staying neutral, staying neural is not supporting Russia, it mean I don't support either side, only Belarus, Syria, Nicargara, North Korea support Russia in that latest UN vote, and of those only North Korea and Syria is directly supporting Russia.

On the other hand, US and EU made up slightly more than 2/3 of World Economy. It does not really matter if a person in Boswana does not support Ukraine, because they can't give up to support anyway, but EU and US, represent 2/3 of the world economic support Ukraine, it means 2/3 of the world economy is backing Ukraine, and the other 1/3 (mainly China) can only either play ball or go to war with US and EU economically. Which for them will be a suicide. The only problem is, EU and US can trad with each other and salvage at least some of the market, who can China trade with??
 
And you know this because you wanted with the French parliament just now and we don't know the results? The French are their own identity yes, but may be you haven't heard they are shipping mor artillery to the war zone. This would be like saying Russia is ending because of all the military brass that Putin keeps firing or heads of companies dying in hospital beds. Sounds ridicilous

LOL French are in no mood to support the NATO against Russia.


Macron under fire for saying France wouldn’t respond in kind if Russia launched nuclear attack on Ukraine​

French president says Paris would not trigger a nuclear response if Russia launched such a strike ‘in Ukraine or in the region.’
European Council Holds Informal Meeting Of Heads Of State

French President Emmanuel Macron said on Wednesday that Paris would “evidently” not use nuclear weapons in response | Sean Gallup/Getty Images

BY CLEA CAULCUTT
OCTOBER 13, 2022 6:22 PM

PARIS – Emmanuel Macron’s recent comments on the French response in case of a Russian nuclear attack on Ukraine have drawn fire from observers and political opponents at home.

During an interview with French TV channel France 2, the French president said on Wednesday that Paris would “evidently” not use nuclear weapons in response to a Russian nuclear attack on Ukraine.

“France has a nuclear doctrine, that is based on the vital interests of the country and which are clearly defined. These would not be at stake if there was a nuclear ballistic attack in Ukraine or in the region,” the French president said.

The French president has since been criticized for breaking the usage of remaining vague on the topic of nuclear dissuasion, at a time when Russian leader Vladimir Putin has made nuclear threats.

“[Nuclear] dissuasion’s credibility relies on not saying anything about what we would have to do,” former French President François Hollande said on FranceInfo radio, adding one needed to “say as little as possible and be prepared to do as much as possible.”

As the leader of the EU’s only nuclear power, Macron’s comments that he would not respond to a nuclear attack in Ukraine “or in the region” are unlikely to reassure EU member states belonging to NATO such as Poland, Romania or Slovakia. Article 5 of the NATO treaty states that members should come to the defense of other members in case of attack.

Putin raised the specter of a nuclear war in a major escalation last month, threatening to use “all weapon resources” at his disposal to win.

While the U.S. has remained vague on how it would respond to a Russian nuclear attack on Ukraine, it has however made it clear that Russia would face a response of conventional forces on a massive scale.

Bruno Tertrais, deputy director for the think tank Foundation for Strategic Research, questioned Macron’s “curious” decision to spell out the limits of France nuclear doctrine, and the timing of the statement.

“In my opinion, the right answer should have been: I won’t play this game … and anyway Mr. Putin must be aware that he would lose,” he tweeted.

During the interview on Wednesday, the French president said the less dissuasion was discussed “the better,” but he then went on to clarify what would happen in case of an attack against Ukraine. Asked by the France 2 journalist if France would refrain from deploying nuclear bombs in response to a Russian nuclear attack on Ukrainian soil, Macron said “evidently.”

“When I heard him speak, I almost fell of my chair,” said the conservative MP Jean-Louis Thiériot, vice president of the National Assembly’s armed forces committee.
“It’s a political mistake. One of the principles of nuclear dissuasion is that there’s an uncertainty as to what is considered a vital interest,” he said.

Thiériot believes Macron’s message may have been meant for voters at home, who are worried about France’s military support for Ukraine and the possibility of a nuclear war.

The French president did not make any statements on what France’s conventional response might be if Russia used nuclear weapons. On Monday, the G7 countries released a statement that warned that Russia would face “grave consequences” if it did.

The comments risk further undermining France’s push for strategic autonomy and a Europe that defends itself and does not rely solely on the U.S. for protection.
Lili Bayer and Stuart Lau contributed reporting.

 
Well, the EU pursed a more friendly posture towards Iran unlike the US. sanctions have psycho effects. As said, no more niceties, the EU places you on enemy list.
and we effectively were there already .
what's the point of nice talks when action wise eu was exactly ,Like USA

Stop trolling!


You mean when China, India buy cheap oil = support Russia? Well then be it.
The third world suffers hunger and starvation because Russia blockade foods and fertilizer I don’t think they are happy.
didn't it some how related on financial transaction sanctions ?
 
Oh what happened?
Russia troops at Kherson really retreating from the western bench of Knipr river.
I thought Putin wanted them to stay fighting until the last man.


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Dieses Foto veröffentlichte Makar Teplinskiy auf seinem Profil bei VKontakte.
(Foto: VKontakte/ Makar Teplinskiy)

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Auch das britische Verteidigungsministerium berichtet über die Fährverbindung zwischen Kosazke und Nowa Kachowka.
(Foto: Britisches Verteidigungsministerium)
 
LOL French are in no mood to support the NATO against Russia.


Macron under fire for saying France wouldn’t respond in kind if Russia launched nuclear attack on Ukraine​

French president says Paris would not trigger a nuclear response if Russia launched such a strike ‘in Ukraine or in the region.’
European Council Holds Informal Meeting Of Heads Of State

French President Emmanuel Macron said on Wednesday that Paris would “evidently” not use nuclear weapons in response | Sean Gallup/Getty Images

BY CLEA CAULCUTT
OCTOBER 13, 2022 6:22 PM

PARIS – Emmanuel Macron’s recent comments on the French response in case of a Russian nuclear attack on Ukraine have drawn fire from observers and political opponents at home.

During an interview with French TV channel France 2, the French president said on Wednesday that Paris would “evidently” not use nuclear weapons in response to a Russian nuclear attack on Ukraine.

“France has a nuclear doctrine, that is based on the vital interests of the country and which are clearly defined. These would not be at stake if there was a nuclear ballistic attack in Ukraine or in the region,” the French president said.

The French president has since been criticized for breaking the usage of remaining vague on the topic of nuclear dissuasion, at a time when Russian leader Vladimir Putin has made nuclear threats.

“[Nuclear] dissuasion’s credibility relies on not saying anything about what we would have to do,” former French President François Hollande said on FranceInfo radio, adding one needed to “say as little as possible and be prepared to do as much as possible.”

As the leader of the EU’s only nuclear power, Macron’s comments that he would not respond to a nuclear attack in Ukraine “or in the region” are unlikely to reassure EU member states belonging to NATO such as Poland, Romania or Slovakia. Article 5 of the NATO treaty states that members should come to the defense of other members in case of attack.

Putin raised the specter of a nuclear war in a major escalation last month, threatening to use “all weapon resources” at his disposal to win.

While the U.S. has remained vague on how it would respond to a Russian nuclear attack on Ukraine, it has however made it clear that Russia would face a response of conventional forces on a massive scale.

Bruno Tertrais, deputy director for the think tank Foundation for Strategic Research, questioned Macron’s “curious” decision to spell out the limits of France nuclear doctrine, and the timing of the statement.

“In my opinion, the right answer should have been: I won’t play this game … and anyway Mr. Putin must be aware that he would lose,” he tweeted.

During the interview on Wednesday, the French president said the less dissuasion was discussed “the better,” but he then went on to clarify what would happen in case of an attack against Ukraine. Asked by the France 2 journalist if France would refrain from deploying nuclear bombs in response to a Russian nuclear attack on Ukrainian soil, Macron said “evidently.”

“When I heard him speak, I almost fell of my chair,” said the conservative MP Jean-Louis Thiériot, vice president of the National Assembly’s armed forces committee.
“It’s a political mistake. One of the principles of nuclear dissuasion is that there’s an uncertainty as to what is considered a vital interest,” he said.

Thiériot believes Macron’s message may have been meant for voters at home, who are worried about France’s military support for Ukraine and the possibility of a nuclear war.

The French president did not make any statements on what France’s conventional response might be if Russia used nuclear weapons. On Monday, the G7 countries released a statement that warned that Russia would face “grave consequences” if it did.

The comments risk further undermining France’s push for strategic autonomy and a Europe that defends itself and does not rely solely on the U.S. for protection.
Lili Bayer and Stuart Lau contributed reporting.


So he's saying that if a NATO country (other than France) is attacked, France would not help defend it because France won't have been directly attacked. I think France should be booted out of NATO.
 
Kornet is deadly to personnel and fortification because of thermobaric warhead. Also, vehicle launched Kornet has auto tracking which is fire and forget.

thermobaric warhead is not something that kornet only have , a TOW missile also can be available in thermobaric variation .
by the way believe me , you want use one with HEAT warhead against tanks , thermobarric variation have other uses but never against tanks or armored vehicle, against personnel , you can use frag warhead
 
It looks like GOP wins House. No more money for Zelensky.


The deep state has its organs in both parties. So unless Trump's MAGA candidates win, I don't see much change to the current aggressive policy against Russia. Remember also, unless new senators are elected from the MAGA camp, it is basically Biden and the Senate that will drive this policy. So whatever the House of Representatives decide, that would still have to be cleared through the Senate and then the Executive (Biden administration) branch.
 
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