Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[jhungary]

There are unconfirm Telegram report (with Video) that heavy fighting WITHIN the city of Kherson, the footage say the firefight took place near Kherson station in September. And stated that the fighting are either between Russian Force and Ukrainian Partisan, or Russian force fighting other Russian force over disagreement.

(This youtube video quote the unconfirm firefight footage from Telegram and I don't quote Telegram channel here and elsewhere)

In this case, it would have been much better for the Russian that this is just some renegade Russian unit, because it this is Ukraine Partisan, then they are facing problem within, which mean their problem is no longer just the Ukrainian force outside the city, which is gathering strength. But also inside.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

There are unconfirm Telegram report (with Video) that heavy fighting WITHIN the city of Kherson, the footage say the firefight took place near Kherson station in September. And stated that the fighting are either between Russian Force and Ukrainian Partisan, or Russian force fighting other Russian force over disagreement.

(This youtube video quote the unconfirm firefight footage from Telegram and I don't quote Telegram channel here and elsewhere)

In this case, it would have been much better for the Russian that this is just some renegade Russian unit, because it this is Ukraine Partisan, then they are facing problem within, which mean their problem is no longer just the Ukrainian force outside the city, which is gathering strength. But also inside.

The SBU saboteurs were cornered and wiped out. Waste of lives for nothing.

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1571281809396142082

https://twitter.com/x/status/1571198231236808711

https://twitter.com/x/status/1571237997080625153

 

[Bengal71]

This is very true. Very plain and obvious to see.

Ok that makes sense. capacity to survive winter. I thin this 3 moths strategic reserve is some EU mandated thing. I know the EU has forced Bosnia to build storage facilities for 3 months of Gas and Petrol. I think its all mandated by EU, and thank God it is.

What he said is trill true. NATO doesnt want to conquer or attack russia, but rather to limit their manouverabity and limit their ability to exploit others. To russia and china, this is a hostile policy.

Being number 1 producer mensal little, what matters is the excess capacity you have that can be exported.

Trump would be impeached/assassinated if he didnt support and arm ukraine.

There is no ground for impeachment if didn't support Ukraine.

 

[Wood]

If Putin drops tactical nukes in Ukraine, then what are the options for the US?

 

[aviator_fan]

Doubt it. Ukraine has a quarter of Russia population. On top of that, Russia has much bigger industrial base. Ukraine compared to Russia = Confederate states compared to Union states.

There you go again with the industrial base crap and population size. China was 20x Vietnam population and it meant nothing in 1979. USSR was 20x of Afghanistan in the 80s and it meant nothing. Israel's Arab adversaries outnumbered it 5 to 1.

This is not the ancient Ming dynasty with people on horses that population maters.

Also, if Russia's industrial base was strong, they wouldn't need Canada's help in repairing Nordstram 1 and going to North Korea (country of last resort) for help on artillery.

You are out of things to say so you repeat the same useless ideas. Now put out there 'this is a forever war' while you are at it.

Where to take the money? From tax payers from whom else? That means I will pay for Germany militarization, too. By the way Germany current account surplus in 2020 is 230 billion euros.
Instead of investing in China or give loans or make donations to other countries Germany can put the 230 billion per year money into the military that’s no problem with money at all.
As for recruits that’s indeed a problem.
I am all for foreign fighters.

The beginning of the German Foreign Legion ...but for continental defense vs. colonial power projection

 

[aviator_fan]

Have you even figured out how a poor and backward Western Europe was able to colonise the whole world? Sounds like you haven't. Keep thinking.

Colonoization was not an expertise of Europeans only. They were damned good at it. But Moghuls originated in Afghanistan and expanded all to India and subjugated India for 100s of years.

Arabs all the way to Spain.

Ottoman Empire.

Mongols all the way to Iraq.

Only difference is the Europeans held on for a 100 or 200 years longer. Some colonization was brutal (Belgium in Congo).

All strong powers conquer. That does not make it right, but it occurs.

Did US lose Afghanistan war? its a simple yes or no question.

They went in and neutralized Taliban's official control of the country. Had they left then, answer would have been 'no did not lose'.

But 1-2 years after being the Neo-Cons wanted to redraw the map of the region (here and Iraq) and mould it as some US democracy and uplift population. That expanded scope was certainly a 'yes lost'.

Russia failed in its original scope. US failed in the expanded redefinition of the goals of the war

 

[aviator_fan]

Another day more spam
How’s the Russian economy?

Its budget surplus that existed in May June is pretty much gone. Any normal country would be able to then take out a sovereign loan. But who is going to lend to them...that option is not open to them as no investor will provide any loan EVEN if sanctions allowed

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

There you go again with the industrial base crap and population size. China was 20x Vietnam population and it meant nothing in 1979. USSR was 20x of Afghanistan in the 80s and it meant nothing. Israel's Arab adversaries outnumbered it 5 to 1.

Man power is not the only factor. But it is an important factor. Allies wouldn't have beaten Axis if not for overwhelming man power advantage. Northern states wouldn't have beaten Southern states if not for overwhelming man power advantage.

 

[dBSPL]

If Putin drops tactical nukes in Ukraine, then what are the options for the US?

I don't believe the theory that Doomsday will start with tactical warheads. No one can afford the snowball effect. Everything happens and ends in a day. lol.

Kidding aside, Russia has more important means at its disposal than its nuclear weapons. Still. Six months ago, I thought and wrote that it was wrong to overstate Russia. And today, I find it wrong to underestimate Russia today.

 

[Viet]

Elon Musk Hits Back on Russia​

The billionaire CEO of Tesla and SpaceX gave his support to the Ukraine, invaded on February 24 by Moscow.

Elon Musk is a troublemaker in the Russian war machine. By sending Starlink into besieged Ukraine, the tech mogul derailed Moscow's plans to cut the country off from the outside world by destroying its telecommunications infrastructure.

"Rough data on Starlink's usage: around 150K active users per day. This is crucial support for Ukraine's infrastructure and restoring the destroyed territories," Ukrainian Vice Prime Minister and Digital Minister Mykhailo Fedorov said on May 2.

Fedorov explains that Starlink is now a kind of lifeline for many of his compatriots: "Ukraine will stay connected no matter what," he added.

The former head of Russia’s space agency, Dmitry Rogozin, has threatened Musk’s life, the billionaire said in a tweet in May. "You will have to answer in an adult way, Elon, no matter how you turn on the fool,” Rogozin wrote in a message.

Elon Musk Hits Back on Russia | TheStreet

 

[Viet]

If Putin drops tactical nukes in Ukraine, then what are the options for the US?

The same question what options we have if North Korea drops nukes South Korea, China drops on Japan, US drops on Russia, Israel drops on Iran, India on Pakistan?

Maybe the US won’t respond. However France and UK would respond, dropping nukes on Moscow and St. Petersburg.

The answer is we don’t know.

But if you read Einstein prediction on WW4 then we come closer. Global warming 10^6. nobody, no human, no animal would survive. Well, accept cockroaches. they would survive.

 

[jhungary]

If Putin drops tactical nukes in Ukraine, then what are the options for the US?

Depends on what type of Tactical Nuclear Weapon the Russian uses.

If this is sub-kilotons, most likely NATO will be seriously condemning such attack, likely to intervene directly somehow (like enforcing a no fly zone), unlikely to send troop to Ukraine.

If this is multiple kilo tons of tactical nuclear weapon (below 20kt) Then most likely NATO will directly intervene, possible troop on the ground or peacekeeper, this is most likely ends the conflict for Russia. This is because if Putin uses kiloton Tactical Nuke, anything east of the Dnieper River would have blown toward Poland, and that would trigger Article 5. And depends on Russian response, they may escalate or they may call it a day. Also, if they use 20kt device East of the Dnieper River, more than likely the Radioactive Fall out and radioactive matter will blown back toward Russia.

On the other hand, Russia using Sub Kiloton nuclear weapon is low, because there are a lot of ways to deal more damage in Ukraine than using them, using them is more of a statement rather than actual usage, it won't change the situation on the ground, in fact, even using 20kt weapon won't change the balance, as it can at most take out a single city. You will need 5 or 6 or even 10 to change the situation, if you use ten 20 kiloton nuclear weapon, that's starting a global thermonuclear war.

 

[One_Nation]

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The difference between Americans/Brits and other barbarians is that those barbarians do it themselves while Brits/Americans get it done through others.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

The difference between Americans/Brits and other barbarians is that those barbarians do it themselves while Brits/Americans get it done through others.

Judging by the photo of General Patton I'd say he was an evil man bent on sadism. Just at the photo of his face. Looks like a brutal Mongol.