Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Viet]

Its just an obsolete ballistic missile, analog of Tochka-U with 50km more range. Ukraine fired all its 450 Tochka-U with zero result.

Really? Then the US can provide more Atscms with 300km to Ukraine.

Biden’s early Christmas gift for Ukraine and Israel. $60b for Ukraine, $14b for Israel. Interestingly, $7b for Indopacific theatre. Maybe we in Vietnam will get a piece of cake, too.

Biden to seek $60 bln for Ukraine, $14 bln for Israel - source

U.S. President Joe Biden will ask Congress for $60 billion for Ukraine and $14 billion for Israel, a source familiar with his plan told Reuters.

www.reuters.com

 

[Han Patriot]

Outside of 155mm ammo , the US really hasn’t given that much. According to Doug Bush, the Army Secretary of Acquisition, even Javelin and Stinger stockpiles are in a “pretty good place.”

Yes, those 100bil$ is nothing since toilet paper costs 100$ in the Us Army.

 

[vizier]

The Fall | Ukrainian Dream Of D-Day | Russian Advances on Avdiivka. Military Summary For 2023.10.19​

As the video mentions there can be another Ukranian landing attempt soon to Kinburn spit region. Russia stationing forces there will attract Ukranian artillery fire from north Kherson region.

There can be several precautions that can be taken by Russia that would make Ukr landing op and holding ground in Kinburn spit more difficult.

-Artillery launched anti personnel mines can be launched continiously close to possible Ukr landing areas. They will use small boats to enter and establish a bridgehead there. Bringing armor from across Dnieper would be more difficult for them and possibly will be their second step. If Ukr uses artillery barrage to destroy mines their artillery positions can be detected for Russian counter artillery ops.

-Prepare artillery and mlrs with cluster ammunition warheads to target the kinburn spit detected landing positions. As Ukr concentrates infantry in a small area like kinburn spit they would be potential targets for area effect weapons like cluster ammunition.

For other encircled areas like Avdiivka in addition to initial step of suppressing Ukr artillery Russia can use artillery generated smoke screen to enter many city buildings inside and then storm other postions seperating the forces apart inside the city immediately. During smoke screen the infantry and apcs will be protected from fpv drone strikes and drone coordinated artillery.

 

[Viet]

As the video mentions there can be another Ukranian landing attempt soon to Kinburn spit region. Russia stationing forces there will attract Ukranian artillery fire from north Kherson region.

There can be several precautions that can be taken by Russia that would make Ukr landing op and holding ground in Kinburn spit more difficult.

-Artillery launched anti personnel mines can be launched continiously close to possible Ukr landing areas. They will use small boats to enter and establish a bridgehead there. Bringing armor from across Dnieper would be more difficult for them and possibly will be their second step. If Ukr uses artillery barrage to destroy mines their artillery positions can be detected for Russian counter artillery ops.

-Prepare artillery and mlrs with cluster ammunition warheads to target the kinburn spit detected landing positions. As Ukr concentrates infantry in a small area like kinburn spit they would be potential targets for area effect weapons like cluster ammunition.

For other encircled areas like Avdiivka in addition to initial step of suppressing Ukr artillery Russia can use artillery generated smoke screen to enter many city buildings inside and then storm other postions seperating the forces apart inside the city immediately. During smoke screen the infantry and apcs will be protected from fpv drone strikes and drone coordinated artillery.

Ukraine territory is almost flat with little vegetation. There is no place to hide. You can see on vids russians troops with their military assets try to hide in some small strips of trees. Ukraine now has more artillery and observation capabilities than Russia. Any Russia major attack like this one at Donbas front will be detected in very early stage by Ukraine and end in disaster. Just a matter of time Ukraine can see every single Russian soldier every Russian tank on the ground.

That’s a problem for Russia no matter how much cheap propaganda Putin spewing. Russia army can no longer dictate the war. Ukraine has successfully sent 33 grain ships over the black sea proves Putin’s hunger game failing. Russia blacksea fleet is finished. The war at sea is over.

 

[vizier]

Ukraine territory is almost flat with little vegetation. There is no place to hide. You can see on vids russians troops with their military assets try to hide in some small strips of trees. Ukraine now has more artillery and observation capabilities than Russia. Any Russia major attack like this one at Donbas front will be detected in very early stage by Ukraine and end in disaster.

Russia army can no longer dictate the war. Ukraine has successfully sent 33 grain ships over the black sea proves Putin’s hunger game failing. Russia blacksea fleet is finished. The war at sea is over.

In frontal assaults it is very risky before enemy artillery is suppressed but in encircled areas and limited enemy artillery like inside Avdiivka eastern parts city infiltration is possible in my opinion with smoke screens and apcs. Holding ground has better chance hiding inside buildings inside the city.

Last time the pincer movement was in open area in Avdiivka and before soldiers were able to dig in Ukraine transferred artillery to that region and stopped advance of Russian pincers. If Russia had more high altitude drone presence there next time it will be much more difficult for Ukranians. Manpads cannot reach 6000m and Ukr does not have sufficient airforce. Even if they detect it above there is not much to do unless they transfer high end systems like S300 or Buk in those areas.

 

[Viet]

In frontal assaults it is very risky before enemy artillery is suppressed but in encircled areas and limited enemy artillery like inside Avdiivka eastern parts city infiltration is possible in my opinion with smoke screens and apcs. Holding ground has better chance hiding inside buildings inside the city.

Last time the pincer movement was in open area in Avdiivka and before soldiers were able to dig in Ukraine transferred artillery to that region and stopped advance of Russian pincers. If Russia had more high altitude drone presence there next time it will be much more difficult for Ukranians. Manpads cannot reach 6000m and Ukr does not have sufficient airforce. Even if they detect it above there is not much to do unless they transfer high end systems like S300 or Buk in those areas.

That’s fantasy. Avdiivka is open terrain. There is no way to attack Ukraine defenders undetected. the russians must move in from hundreds of km away, out of range of Ukraine artillery, before they can attack. They try to encircle the city, then attack by multiple directions. All attempts end in disaster.
Russia lancet attack drone has just a range of 40km. They must come closer to the front. That makes them a good target. Russia observation drone Orlan is a threat but Ukraine now has better guns like the Gepards.

 

[ZeGerman]

no arty shells, no tanks, how is the Ukraine....

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How is russias avdiivka push going?

Russia grinding through its ENTIRE soviet stock this war for 1% GDP support from Nato members…..

Russia is now trading russian lives for time, hoping the west support will wane, and they can get away with what they have still managed to cling on after failing their initial goals.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714625037368496618

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714672324941611514

wow those are massive losses.

Seems russians are into SM cause they just love to take a beating over and over again.
All for Tsar Putin.

 

[ZeGerman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714719455555584501

5 Ka-52s and 4 Mi-8s destroyed

Wow they lost 50 Ka-52 so far? Out of what 100 or 200 total?

 

[Haldorss]

Wow they lost 50 Ka-52 so far? Out of what 100 or 200 total?

ZeFakeGerman

change your name

 

[ZeGerman]

ZeFakeGerman

change your name

Hmm? i have added dutch flag because my dutch nationality but have some german heritage.

 

[The SC]

Belgian Defense Minister Ludivine Didonder said, in a television interview, that his country’s government has decided to send decommissioned F-16 fighters to Ukraine by 2025.

The Belgian Air Force has 43 F-16 fighters, which were delivered in the 1980s and have undergone modernization several times.

Seven years ago, Belgium concluded a contract with the United States to supply 34 F-35 aircraft to replace old aircrafts.

 

[vizier]

That’s fantasy. Avdiivka is open terrain. There is no way to attack Ukraine defenders undetected. the russians must move in from hundreds of km away, out of range of Ukraine artillery, before they can attack. They try to encircle the city, then attack by multiple directions. All attempts end in disaster.
Russia lancet attack drone has just a range of 40km. They must come closer to the front. That makes them a good target. Russia observation drone Orlan is a threat but Ukraine now has better guns like the Gepards.

Russia needs to use high altitude drones to take out Ukr artillery which is 6+km and 200+km radius minimum. Himars -glsdb cant reach command posts and basic aa cant reach 6km. Mohajir 6, Orion and similar drones can do the job. After Atacms these can still be used within 150-200km distance but needs to change location frequently to block spy sat target designation of command posts for Atacms launches. Otherwise long endurance drones like Orion , Shahed 149 and similar can stay out of Atacms reach while conducting all types of operations against artillery and similar.

 

[MeFishToo]

Russia needs to use high altitude drones to take out Ukr artillery which is 6+km and 200+km radius minimum. Himars cant reach command posts and basic aa cant reach 6km. Mohajir 6, Orion and similar drones can do the job. After Atacms these can still be used within 150-200km distance but needs to change location frequently to block spy sat target designation of command posts for Atacms launches. Otherwise long endurance drones like Orion , Shahed 149 and similar can stay out of Atacms reach while conducting all types of operations against artillery and similar.

What makes you believe those large high altitude drones wouldnt be targetted by anything else than short range man portable airdefence systems?

 

[vizier]

What makes you believe those large high altitude drones wouldnt be targetted by anything else than short range man portable airdefence systems?

They can be targeted by small amount of Buk Osa and others in Ukranian posession. They need to be taken care first around the area by Elint and Fab 500s. Ukraine does not have infinite amount of Buk Osa and similar. Patriot, Nasams even older hawk sams are mostly static and cant be transferred to Avdiivka and costly for Ukraine to replace. It is not Kiev we are talking about here but surrounding areas like Adiivka or Robotyne east of Dnieper. There are smaller niche sams like Rbs 23 and similar but if Orion-Mohajir etc has rwr and optics on they can detect these mostly static sams before attacked by them then these short range sams can again be taken down by mlrs fab and similar.

 

[Vergennes]

Meanwhile in Avdiivka, Russians keep doing banzai attacks against Ukrainian positions. Yet another day, yet another massacre....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1715302362074497121