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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2
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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called for a diplomatic solution that gives Russia and Ukraine a "dignified way out" of the crisis sparked by Russia's invasion.
"Together, we need to find a reasonably practical diplomatic solution that will give both sides a dignified way out of the crisis," Erdogan said, speaking on September 20 at the United Nations General Assembly in New York.
He said a lasting peace must be based on protecting Ukraine's territorial integrity and added that Turkey will continue to increase its efforts to end the war.
"I invite international organizations and all countries to give sincere support to Turkey's efforts," he said.
"If peace is going to be established in Ukraine, of course, returning the land that was invaded will become important," he said.
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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called for a diplomatic solution that gives Russia and Ukraine a "dignified way out" of the crisis sparked by Russia's invasion.
"Together, we need to find a reasonably practical diplomatic solution that will give both sides a dignified way out of the crisis," Erdogan said, speaking on September 20 at the United Nations General Assembly in New York.
He said a lasting peace must be based on protecting Ukraine's territorial integrity and added that Turkey will continue to increase its efforts to end the war.
"I invite international organizations and all countries to give sincere support to Turkey's efforts," he said.
"If peace is going to be established in Ukraine, of course, returning the land that was invaded will become important," he said.
Erdogan Says Finding 'Dignified Way Out' For Both Sides Could End War In Ukraine
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called for a diplomatic solution that gives Russia and Ukraine a "dignified way out" of the crisis sparked by Russia's invasion.
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i was replying to some one saying Russia doesn't want cease fire
yes Russia should give up Moscow to Ukrainians as well
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The one getting the "coup" Treatment...
Video: Inside the ‘Museum of Corruption’
In February 2014, the palatial compound of Viktor Yanukovych, the former president of Ukraine, was opened to the public after he fled Kiev.
Wow the US is such a great country for helping Ukraine overthrowing a government so corrupt he owned a personal zoo.
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Ukraine gave the excuse for Russia to hit infrastructure by trying to blow up the Crimea bridgeLOL this reminds me couple o years back that all Chinese & Russian fanboys here said that all they needed to do was lobbing missiles at the target until the enemy capitulate.
Turns out in reality all that does is just pissing people off,
LOL the gaslight is strong here,
Ukraine war: Captured Russian documents reveal Moscow's 10-day plan to take over the country and kill its leaders
Russia planned to start the invasion with a "massive missile and airstrike campaign" against Ukrainian military targets, RUSI says, with a list also showing who should be killed, who would be intimidated and who would be targeted as a collaborator.news.sky.com
had it not done so this wouldn't have been happening
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LOL the Russian were already bombing civy targets before the crimean bridge What is it with you people and gaslighting?
Attacks on civilians in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine - Wikipedia
We get it you people doesn't have any moral so you resort to lying to get score some imaginary point.
With uk sending tanks and heavy weapons it further puts pressure on Ukraine's nato allies to send more tanks and heavy weapons to support their ally Ukraine against invading russian establishment with nato and other Ukraine allies sending more sophisticated and high tech weapons to Ukraine this war which russia imposed on Ukraine will turn into next vietnam and Afghanistan for invading russian establishment
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Did you ever read the 1996 constitution? And did you know the differences to the 2004 constitution?
There is a lot info about this topic out there. You should try to read one.
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Russian Fighter Jets 'Buzzed' UK's Most Powerful Warship HMS Queen Elizabeth In A 'Threatening Maneuver': BBC
BBC broadcast a dramatic video capturing the moment when Russian fighter jets flew past Britain's most powerful warship, HMS Queen Elizabeth
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Russian Fighter Jets ‘Buzzed’ UK’s Most Powerful Warship HMS Queen Elizabeth In A ‘Threatening Maneuver’: BBC
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ByAshish Dangwal
January 13, 2023
On January 12, the BBC broadcast a dramatic video capturing the moment a group of Russian fighter planes flew past Britain’s most powerful warship, HMS Queen Elizabeth, in a ‘threatening’ maneuver.
The three Russian fighters, which included at least two Su-24 fighters, were videotaped roaring toward the British aircraft carrier and her battle group. At the time of the incident, the Carrier Strike Group led by the HMS Queen Elizabeth was sailing towards the Suez Canal.
The footage was recorded in June 2021 during the first operational mission of Queen HMS Queen Elizabeth. However, the trailer of the BBC documentary was made public on January 12 about the ship’s seven-month deployment to the Far East.
The first of a six-part documentary series detailing the deployment of the Royal Navy Carrier Strike Group will air on BBC on January 22, 2023.
The British naval crew can be seen in the video spotting the three Russian warplanes heading straight toward the ship, a maneuver that might easily result in a severe conflict.
Officials of the Royal Navy can be seen rushing into action as the F-35 stealth jets, a part of Queen Elizabeth’s fleet, prepare to take flight. One naval officer reports, “I’ve got three Russian jets at six miles.”
“Visual. Roger. Three Russian aircraft coming in,” another crew member said.
A British Naval officer warned, “This is a coalition warship. Your actions appear to be threatening. Turn away immediately, or I may take action against you.”
The jets, reported to have been dispatched from Russia’s Khmeimim Air Base on Syria’s north-east coast, are recorded roaring past the warship. It is one of several confrontations with Russian forces that the crew of HMS Queen Elizabeth is said to have had.
The Russian jets are seen turning away from the British flagship after making a near flyby of the warship while sirens blare across HMS Queen Elizabeth.
When the incident with the Russians occurred, HMS Queen Elizabeth was on her first operational deployment and had been utilizing her onboard air wing of F-35 stealth planes to conduct strike sorties against ISIS militants in the Middle East.
F-35 stealth aircraft from the 617 Squadron were conducting strike flights against ISIS militants in the Middle East at the time of the incident.
Confrontation Between British And Russian Forces
Meanwhile, it has also been reported that, before the confrontation, Admiral Makarov, the prized flagship of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, was also engaged in the unprecedented encounter.The US destroyer The Sullivans, Queen Elizabeth’s American escort ship, is seen being hurriedly dispatched to thwart the Makarov in the BBC documentary The Warship: Tour of Duty.
It was one of several confrontations with Russian forces that HMS Queen Elizabeth had throughout her mission, according to the British media. The sources told the British press that no aggressive interactions occurred between the Russians and the British task force.
“There’s a healthy respect for safety. However, we can’t let an aircraft from another nation overfly our carrier without standing up and defending our carrier,” sources added.
A spokesperson for the Royal Navy also stated that throughout the successful deployment of the Carrier Strike Group in 2021, marine and airborne forces frequently approached HMS Queen Elizabeth and her multinational group.
As usual, strong defenses were in place to keep the group safe. The spokesperson added that one of them was an Astute Class submarine, and routine challenges were issued when necessary and appropriate.
The latest BBC video is thought to have been captured just a few days before Russian forces and a British vessel engaged in combat in the Black Sea.
During that time, Russia stated that one of its patrol boats had launched warning shots at HMS Defender and that munitions landed in front of the ship. It is worth noting that HMS Defender was part of the HMS Queen Elizabeth’s carrier group when the incident unfolded.
The Type 45 destroyer was warned, “If you don’t change the course, I’ll fire.” After the British ship refused to budge, warning shots were launched from the Russian patrol ship.
It marked the first time Moscow acknowledged deploying live weapons to dissuade a NATO warship since the Cold War. However, Britain categorically refuted the claims, saying that the destroyer remained in international seas and that no shots were fired.
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Ukraine is not siding with the Americans, Americans are sending minimal arms to Ukraine to drag the war week after week. Americans are siding with Ukraine to minimally defend itself with 20 HIMARS and small amounts of other equipment, while Putin tries to take down the EU economically and politically with a long war.
Europe is not siding with the Americans, Russia wants the Baltic States, perhaps more after Ukraine. Biden is offering vocal support to NATO Europe and a few more tanks and other equipment, while Russia with 50K+ heavy weapons, wants the Russian Empire again and the Warsaw Pact again.
This is like Japan going imperialist again, and Japan wants to retake much of China. Then the USA says "we side with China", while winking at Japan and smiling, and sending 20 HIMARS to China to be hero of China as Imperialist Japan invades China again with Russian-style huge stockpiles of weapons.
This war has very little to do with Military Industrial Complex, this is not a war for profits for Wall street, or else US would be giving much more to defend Europe. This is a completely different war. As Bannon, Trump, Tucker and Russia Republicans back Bolsonaro coup, Biden backs Lula overtly with words. It is the same in Europe. The Republican deepstate back the takedown of democracy in Brazil and Europe. While Democrats say they support liberty, yet barely do anything about actually defeating these authoritarian dictators - Trumper Bolsonaro and Trumper Putin. Bannon is a Putinite. Does anybody foolish say, the Brazilians need to stop fighting for Lula, the winner of the election, and instead support Bolsonaro because Washington supports Lula and is using Brazil for USA benefit. It is exactly the same in Europe. A dictator is trying to take as much of Europe as Putin wants to take, Europe is defending liberty, democracy and freedom in Europe. Same as Lula supporters are defending democracy with overt Biden support for Lula. The same instigators of Bannon, Tucker, Trump, Flynn, and Russia Republicans support Putin friend Bolsonaro and Trumper Putin. It is not a Russia Republican cia plot to defeat Putin. Putin is in on it with cia asset Tucker, Bannon and Trump.
Merkel: Putin Wants to Destroy Europe
Trump also wants to see Europe in ruin.
Because Lula is supported by Biden, are we to back Trumper Bolsonaro, a Putin clone.?.
That is how little the Putin defense makes sense.
Biden could have stopped this with a US only no-fly zone over Ukraine. Biden refused. Biden could have stopped this with thousands of Bradleys and artillery, and hundreds of HIMARS in 2022. Biden gave only token support to Ukraine, enough to drag on the war.
Russia is a clear and present danger to the EU. We are aware of this. The war is against Europe. To knock out enemies of Trump/Putin. Trump takes out China and Iran. Putin takes out the EU. That is the Trump plan. Being on Team Putin means you are on Team Trump.
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