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Only for hose-and-drogue. Not sure if it is possible to attach a boom refueling probe aft of the aircraft considering that's the location of the cargo ramp. One would basically need to sacrifice cargo lift in order to refuel, or perhaps try fitting a boom probe to the wings (I've never seen that done before).Can a MRTT version of China's Y-20 work? I believe they have plans beyond pure transport for the aircraft.
Ukraine inherited 21 Midas tankers from the Soviet Union, the entire Soviet tanker fleet was based in Ukraine
Ukraine never operated these tankers and they were kept in storage
They are in a bad shape because Ukraine only did minor work prior to delivery
Anyone seen the cock pit and avionics ?? They are still using gauges from 1970s very poor condition
The PAF tankers are so loud they aren't even allowed to land at many European airports, those engines need to go
So this refurb is well over due
I guess since we couldn't do it earlier because we didn't have good friendship with Russia
Even the electrics were ripped out and analog gauges were being used it was almost dangerous to fly the PAF Midas tanker fleet
This is actually great news
My friend, we also have C130's for cargo. Yes the C130's can't hold as much as a IL78 but I think the C130's alone do meet the PAF requirements?4 are not enough, they are not just tankers they are also cargo transport planes (MRTT), all 4 can not be available all the time, it is also important what is their availability ratio.
Loved this ideaI'd try buying 2-3 used Airbus A330s and finding companies with experience sourcing and integrating boom and hose-and-drogue refueling technology. It will be a custom solution, but probably much cheaper than an off-the-shelf Airbus A330 MRTT.
I don't think keeping an aircraft flying for long time puts much strain on the aircraft structurally, it's the actual number of take offs and landings as well as the payload that's carried in a mission that has real effect on aircraft.This is a expensive solution using A330
Also adding tanker for F16 will add significant strain on maintenance and overhaul, keeping a F16 in the air for long periods of time in the long term is probably not what PAF wants to excercise it a point we miss
Ukraine still have surplus Midas tankers PLAAF is getting 3 units, they also have IL-76 for cargo use which can be converted to tankers
KC-135 and A330 as well as A310 which is operated by PIA have long been explored and came to no fruitful conclusion my guess is again the cost
My friend, we also have C130's for cargo. Yes the C130's can't hold as much as a IL78 but I think the C130's alone do meet the PAF requirements?
I'm not too sure my self.
You mean SU-57, the same stealth jets which a year back according to IAF were not stealth enough and not upto the IAF standards.When did we say that ??? And its too furnishing an old plane.. While a Russian minister is coming to India for deal about stealth jets
I thought more than 30 M3/5s were updated with A2AR. Please clarify.I think main purpose of il78 was to help avoid ferrying JF 17 and other such program such as spade 2000, mi 17, ly80 etc acquisitions related cost which initially were payed to
Antonov refueling was a plus point
How many mirages were upgraded less then 10 to just introduce ata refueling
JF will benefit though
Finally from 1 transport Sqn you went to 3 for small af that is what can be afforded
It is a silly question but I have always wondered whether we can mate the AL56?engines of the C130s with the Iliyushins. The advantages would be tremendous. The answer is probably NO but I just had to ask.Ukraine inherited 21 Midas tankers from the Soviet Union, the entire Soviet tanker fleet was based in Ukraine
Ukraine never operated these tankers and they were kept in storage
They are in a bad shape because Ukraine only did minor work prior to delivery
Anyone seen the cock pit and avionics ?? They are still using gauges from 1970s very poor condition
The PAF tankers are so loud they aren't even allowed to land at many European airports, those engines need to go
So this refurb is well over due
I guess since we couldn't do it earlier because we didn't have good friendship with Russia
Even the electrics were ripped out and analog gauges were being used it was almost dangerous to fly the PAF Midas tanker fleet
This is actually great news
Two key points here.
An attempt for such has been made. The price quoted was exhorbitant. Source @Bilalkhan777. Secondly do we really need these for 45 of our 3osomething year old fighters which will never be used for aggressive encroachment into Indian territory. 27/2 has taught us that 16s can only be used for inland defence. So how much do we want to spend on these fighters and what is the cost to benefit ratio? I agree that the idea is good but what utility will it have.?I'd try buying 2-3 used Airbus A330s and finding companies with experience sourcing and integrating boom and hose-and-drogue refueling technology. It will be a custom solution, but probably much cheaper than an off-the-shelf Airbus A330 MRTT.