Russia to invest 12 Billion Dollars into new Supercarrier +100.000Tons (90aircraft)

[UKBengali]

Not even the USSR could build a supercarrier and they were a proper super power not the raggedy Russia of today.This is just propaganda for the masses,this is the circus for them.Unfortunately for Russia,they can't supply the bread to, to keep them happy.

USSR was building 2 nuclear-powered super-carriers of 80,000+ tonnes when it collapsed.

 

[LordTyrannus]

True talk, Russia shouldn't focus on it's economy, nor should it invest too much in improving its infrastructure, since that will divert the money needed for Russia military industrial complex, and that's what our policy makers are waiting for when Russia gets weak by investing in it's economy, so they can use the opportunity to attack Russia . so Russia ought to focus solely on it's military, then the rest can wait , Russian military has to remain the biggest /most powerful in the world, so as to deter any western /U. S invasion.
Russia military strong.

There is simply no "rest" to invest in.

You think people will thank putin for getting welfare checks from russian state?

In the USA, UK,France people living lazy on welfare and give a phuck about western hegemony. Look how corrupted and lazy your country UK has become. Your only fun is to make fun about Russia,while your own country is flooded with immigrants.

You are doomed,and your country will not even have enough money to spend on the arms it needs in the future. Your navy not even has enough money for munition, training and proper maintenance.

HAHA

 

[mike2000 is back]

There is simply no "rest" to invest in.

You think people will thank putin for getting welfare checks from russian state?

In the USA, UK,France people living lazy on welfare and give a phuck about american hegemony. Look how corrupted and lazy your country UK has become. Your only fun is to make fun about Russia,while your own country is flooded from immigrants.

You are doomed,and your country will not even have enough money to spend on the arms it needs in the future. Your navy not even has enough money for munition, training and proper maintenance.

HAHA

Yes with a small island of about 50million people (about 1/3rd that of Russia) with little natural resources, has a bigger economy/more productive than Russia and has a far higher living standards. how come? You should ask yourself why Russia (the world's largest country by landmass and one of the richest in terms of natural resources (top oil and gas reserves producer in the world) and with a large population, how come Russia still has a smaller GDP than even Italy /U. k? Means Russia is quite unproductive/inefficient to be honest . Had we had Russia's land/territory/resources then believe me even the mighty U. S will be lagging behind us.

We have a bigger GDP and living standards than Russia , yet we spend wisely less on our military for some reason you know. Its not like we don't have the money/capital, it's just that our priorities are different as you can see.

Moreover, yes lots of immigrants from all over the world are dying to come and live in our country (wealthy patriotic Russians officials, billionaires included lol , in fact guess you are one since you live in the West. Lol), it's for a reason you know, because we have a high standard of living, good education system with world's top universities, offer good opportunities to talented people to work, good investment climate, etc etc not because of our superpower aircraft carriers in drawing (though we are already building two to be commissioned soon) . ask yourself why people from developing countries tend to want yearn to immigration here in the West /US instead of Russia?? ? How many Chinese or your 'best friends' Indians have you seen dreaming /yearning for their kids to come and study /live a better live in Russia? Lol it's for a reason bro.

 

[LordTyrannus]

Yes with a small island of about 50million people (about 1/3rd that of Russia) with little natural resources, has a bigger economy/more productive than Russia and has a far higher living standards. how come? You should ask yourself why Russia (the world's largest country by landmass and one of the richest in terms of natural resources (top oil and gas reserves producer in the world) and with a large population, how come Russia still has a smaller GDP than even Italy /U. k? Means Russia is quite unproductive/inefficient to be honest . had we had Russia's land/territory/resources then believe me even the mighty U. S will be lagging behind us.

We have a bigger GDP and living standards than Russia , yet we spend wisely less on our military for some reason you know. Its not like we don't have the money/capital, it's just that our priorities are different as you can see.

you have no bigger economy. the money on your computers don´t belong to you.

UK has simply nothing left from industrilisation.

Your citizens aka victims earn a shitload of money,but surprise they also spend a shitload of money for daily living. The highest consumer prices in the world.

per PPP your country is below China.

lel

 

[Gabriel92]

@mike2000 is back Dude,you are 'debating' with a guy that criticizes the West everyday of his miserable life,says everyday how strong is Russia,but that guy lives in a western country and i'd bet 300€ that he lives on benefits.
Anyway,he can say whatever he wants,but an average British worker earns more than a Russian,UK is far richer,even without the massive reserves of oil and gas that Russia has,the standards of living are far higher in UK etc..
Putin should put money for its citizens,instead of throwing (or stealing..) on military stuff.
Why don't Putin invests money on these poor Russian citizens... ?
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.... but just an Hospital in Boyarkino village, Russia. It is not far from Moscow, a major city center, but what you will see here will make you sick. The facility is obviously run-down, full of mold and bacteria. There can't possibly be one sterile room in the entire hospital, yet people are forced to use it. They have no other choice. Staying home would be better than entering this death trap.

Spoiler

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No funds for 'em,but funds for Armata tanks!

 

[mike2000 is back]

you have no bigger economy. the money on your computers don´t belong to you.

UK has simply nothing left from industrilisation.

Your citizens aka victims earn a shitload of money,but surprise they also spend a shitload of money for daily living. The highest consumer prices in the world.

per PPP your country is below China.

lel

Huh... We have no bigger economy?? The money we spend on computers don't belong to us? Too bad then. What a pity .

Why are you bringing in china?? I thought you also looked down on them? lol
China has a higher per capital PPP than us? whoeven counts PPP? @Chinese-Dragon , @Shotgunner51 et al help me.

 

[LordTyrannus]

Huh... We have no bigger economy?? The money we spend on computers don't belong to us? Too bad then. What a pity .

Why are you bringing in china?? I thought you also looked down on them? lol
China has a higher per capital PPP than us? whoeven counts PPP? @Chinese-Dragon , @Shotgunner51 et al help me.

you western clown. i mean the money on your computers. you don´t understand?

go feed some immigrants with a welfare check. Invest in them! hahahaha

In the meantime your once powerfull navy rots away.

Don´t be fooled from single new ships like type 45 or queen elisabeth carrier. all money is spend on them. while the rest of your ships, esspacially your nuclear subs are in desastrous condition. Maintenance cycles are skipped at purpose.Your trident missiles are more dangerous for yourself than for your enemies.

you are loosing all your nuclear deterence.

 

[mike2000 is back]

@mike2000 is back Dude,you are 'debating' with a guy that criticizes the West everyday of his miserable life,says everyday how strong is Russia,but that guy lives in a western country and i'd bet 300€ that he lives on benefits.
Anyway,he can say whatever he wants,but an average British worker earns more than a Russian,UK is far richer,even without the massive reserves of oil and gas that Russia has,the standards of living are far higher in UK etc..
Putin should put money for its citizens,instead of throwing (or stealing..) on military stuff.
Why don't Putin invests money on these poor Russian citizens... ?
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.... but just an Hospital in Boyarkino village, Russia. It is not far from Moscow, a major city center, but what you will see here will make you sick. The facility is obviously run-down, full of mold and bacteria. There can't possibly be one sterile room in the entire hospital, yet people are forced to use it. They have no other choice. Staying home would be better than entering this death trap.

Spoiler

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No funds for 'em,but funds for Armata tanks!

Well, i know full well many people like my Russian friend even on this forum. So we shouldn't blame just our Russian friend on here. There are a few Chinese members on here who have migrated to the Evil /declining /chaotic West /U.S and live a comfortable life here, yet use their keyboards to claim how great and advanced their motherland is and how bankrupt /finished the West is, yet they prefer to remain /live in this same evil /chaotic West than return back to their own great motherland. Lol reminds me of the Palestinian Arab member falcon29 who spend his time bashing the U. S/West, yet he and his family immigrated to the U. S to live a better /civilised life than the one he left in the Middle East. . Yet he uses his keyboard to claim how morally bankrupt and evil the West is /criticise western evil lifestyle and how great /Just /holy his ummah Islamic countries are.

you western clown. i mean the money on your computers. you don´t understand?

go feed some immigrants with a welfare check. Invest in them! hahahaha

In the meantime your once powerfull navy rots away.

Don´t be fooled from single new ships like type 45 or queen elisabeth carrier. all money is spend on them. while the rest of your ships, esspacially your nuclear subs are in desastrous condition. Maintenance cycles are skipped at purpose.Your trident missiles are more dangerous for yourself than for your enemies.

you are loosing all your nuclear deterence.

Lol superboy.

 

[LordTyrannus]

I claimed nothing, moron.

I just posted the news about the signed deal of the purchase of a newly developed domestic +100.000 tons Supercarrier of Russian Navy.

They will build 8 of this.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

unlimited endurance,

You mean to say this ship will carry vampires or immortals.

Human's require food and hence they have to harbour atleast for a few hours after some time to have food supplies. One can imagine the food in cold storage can be stored for a longer period still it is not Unlimited Period.

 

[LordTyrannus]

You mean to say this ship will carry vampires or immortals.

Human's require food and hence they have to harbour atleast for a few hours after some time to have food supplies. One can imagine the food in cold storage can be stored for a longer period still it is not Unlimited Period.

A military naval fleet does not anchor to get supplies. This would make the fleet vulnerable. For supply purpose there are supply and fuel ships with harpoons.

Aircarriers get their supplies and fuel under full speed on the open sea.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

A military naval fleet does not anchor to get supplies. This would make the fleet vulnerable. For supply purpose there are supply and fuel ships with harpoons.

Aircarriers get their supplies and fuel under full speed on the open sea.

Plus we have C-2 Greyhounds for delivery if needed.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Plus we have C-2 Greyhounds for delivery if needed.

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These are to be replaced by Osprey if not mistaken?

 

[Superboy]

Good decision. A state prints its own money. So a state has infinite money.

 

[Taygibay]

Decoding the thread opening article ( neutral from India or if anything pro-Russian ) :

Russian view,
"Russia"
"plans to upgrade and modernize its military" &
"add a new aircraft carrier, known as Project 23000E or Shtorm"
"designed to conduct operations in remote and oceanic areas, engage land-based and sea-borne enemy targets, ensure the operational stability of naval forces, protect landing troops, and provide the anti-aircraft defense"
"80 to 90 aircraft and will feature both ski-jump ramps and catapult launch systems, allowing planes to launch and land on the carrier in a range of possible weather scenarios."
"Introduction of a second aircraft carrier into the Russian navy"
"part of a coherent and feasible global foreign policy"
"is viewed as an urgent strategic threat."

Other folks view,
"In spite of sanctions over Russia's annexation of Crimea and the conflict in eastern Ukraine, Moscow"
"is planning to add a second aircraft carrier to its navy."
"The new aircraft carrier, known as Project 23000E or Shtorm, is still in a very preliminary phase" ( and )
"a scale model of the heavy carrier will be"
"so early in its development that it's currently unclear whether the proposed vessel will be nuclear-powered or if it will use conventional fuel"
"the overall cost of the supercarrier would be "astronomical" and would involve "reorientating a naval industry around producing a ship of significant size.
"(A)ssuming Russia ever actually builds the ship, the carrier will only be of strategic value if Moscow invests heavily in the development of overseas ports in willing partner countries."
"Russia might not have the resources or the diplomatic capital to pull that off."

It's so hard to gauge! All a matter of what one reads into it really!
Still, see how much a single word* changes the interpretation?
And a single sentence precision :
Since Russian shipyards could not build Mistrals and had to buy them instead ( Ooops, "almost had to" )
and can't get a safe production line running for the Amurs, what are the chances of a plan for a second LOL
carrier doing anything but replacing, and I am quoting the source, "Russia's only functioning carrier" …
"launched in 1985."?
By me myself and I, apart from the quotes of course.

Just wondering' Tay and good evening kids!

* Admittedly, and a logogrammatical ligature sign.